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BuckeyeNation27 said:
heres my problem with you. my comment was a joke. in no way was i yelling, or flipping out, or whatever you incorrectly assumed i was doing. yet here you are again telling me to chill and relax. maybe you are the person that doesnt know whats going on. heres your 2 cents back.

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I need it! HAHA!:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: Getting ready for the weekend and some bruskies!
 
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Update from Camp!

A New Face

When the Cowboys brought in kicker Matt Bryant Wednesday afternoon, the former Giant made an immediate impression, going three-for-three on field-goal attempts while incumbent Billy Cundiff missed all three of his attempts. Both kickers hit all four field goals they attempted Thursday afternoon.

Parcells said, while Cundiff is still scheduled to be his kicker this season, he is open to changing his mind if Bryant clearly out performs last year's kicker. He went on to say that recently released kicker Jonathan Ruffin was replaced because he "couldn't make any kicks."

Bryant was picked up because he was the most experienced guy on the market, and his presence should prevent the Cowboys from wearing out Cundiff during training camp. Bryant, though, shanked a kickoff out of bounds during Thursday's practice, bringing back memories of the last-second flub he committed against the Cowboys last season in that Monday night game against the Giants.

Special Teams in Houston

The Cowboys have narrowed down who they will have returning punts and kickoffs for the preseason game against Houston. Rookies Patrick Crayton, Nathan Jones and Julius Jones are all expected to return punts, with veterans Dedric Ward and Zuriel Smith available if needed.

As far as kickoff returns go, six guys have made the list for this weekend: Nathan Jones, Julius Jones, Crayton, Bruce Thornton, Jemeel Powell and ReShard Lee.

Quick Shots The Cowboys will hold only a one-hour walk-through practice Friday ( 10-11 a.m.) before departing for Houston . . . . Cornerback Andrew Davison has been released, officially moving the cornerback from the reserve-left practice list . . . Parcells mentioned that rookies Stephen Peterman and Thomas Herrion are both slightly injured. Peterman has a broken finger, but was practicing with a cast on his hand. Herrion is pushing through practice with a sprained ankle . . . Although the defensive line has not been practicing stunts much in training camp, they will try to incorporate some into the first pre-season game . . . Former Cowboys wide receiver Anthony Miller (1997) visited training camp Thursday . . . Herrion and linebacker Jamal Brooks locked up after a play during team drill, engaging in a shoving match for about a minute before being separated by teammates . . . Pete Hunter continues to impress during team drills. The potential starting right cornerback managed to knock a deep Drew Henson pass away from Dedric Ward Thursday, having perfect position on the veteran receiver.

You Should've Seen:
Vinny Testaverde threw a 12-yard pass to wide receiver Terry Glenn during Wednesday afternoon's practice. Impressive was the way Testaverde split two defenders, linebackers Kalen Thornton and Ryan Fowler, to fit the ball right in Glenn's hands.


Who's Hot:
Offensive lineman Tyson Walters has made dramatic improvements since last season. He's a versatile player who can play center or a guard, and could make an impact at either position. He will start Saturday's preseason game at center. In his press conference Thursday, Parcells said, "Physically, probably as dramatic an improvement as anybody on the team" about Walters.

Who's Not:
Defensive tackle Leo Carson has been nursing a residual effects from his off-season knee scope for the past week, and Parcells is still trying to decide how much he can push Carson without agitating the problem. Carson has been practicing on a limited basis, and Parcells is taking it easy on him so he'll make it to September for the regular season. The problem is mild swelling, and Parcells has to determine how much work Carson can handle and if it would be better to just rest him in Saturday's first preseason game against Houston.

Injury Update:
DT Leo Carson, sprained knee (8/3), limited practice.
Missed Practice:
SS Darren Woodson, surgery to repair herniated disk (7/27) - out 6-8 weeks.
C Gennaro DiNapoli, ankle stress fracture (June) - out one month.
RB Erik Bickerstaff, surgery to repair torn Achilles - IR.
Returned to Practice: (None) Transactions:
CB Andrew Davison, (8/11)
K Matt Bryant, signed (8/11)
K Jonathan Ruffin, released (8/11)
QB Quincy Carter, released (8/4)
LB Ryan Fowler, signed (8/4)
WR James Newson, released (8/3)
WR Brandon Middleton, signed (8/3)

Chad Peters
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
August 12, 2004, 1:52 p.m. (PDT)


OXNARD, Calif. -- During head coach Bill Parcells' daily press conference Thursday, he discussed how he will divide playing time for Saturday's preseason opener against the Houston Texans and which players are going to start the game.

Do you want to issue the qualifier we shouldn't read anything into who is starting against Houston?

PARCELLS: You'll do it anyway. After this game, it will be like a freight train rolling. I mean, all the instant evaluators that work in the Dallas media will have "so-and-so didn't play, that must mean he's out of the plans." There's going to be several people that don't play on purpose. They'll play next week.

Do you have distinct first teams, for instance, the first team will go with Vinny Testaverde and then give way to the second team?

PARCELLS: I'm just going to try to play some of these guys in thirds. I'm going to try to play some of the offensive linemen about a third of the game - Flozell (Adams) and them, I'll play them about a third. We've got about three lines, so hopefully I'll play . . . there's a couple of guys I'm afraid to put them one - one of the two I'm afraid to put in at that position because they don't know what to do. And then we're having mental mistakes and I don't want to lose a quarterback because of that. If they can show me next week they're a little ahead of the game, maybe they'll play next week. But right now, there's probably one or two that aren't going to play because I don't want to be turning any of those linebackers loose on my young quarterbacks. There's a chance that'll happen anyway, but with a couple of these guys, it's almost, as they say at the track, a mortal lock.

When it comes to the offensive line, do you play the best five? Or do you group them by certain positions?

PARCELLS: I would try to work it out to where I have the best five guys playing if I could, but there could be a situation where someone was a very good player. Maybe in your mind he was in the top five, but he just wasn't able to play center, so to speak, or tackle. Maybe you have two real good guards that couldn't play center or they couldn't play tackle - they're limited to what they are. That could be.

Will you rotate some of those guys you have been rotating with the first team in practice with the first team during the game?

PARCELLS: No, I'll probably go pretty solid. I don't know what I'm going to do with Leo (Caron) yet, so that's kind of up in the air. He's been practicing and I had a long talk with him yesterday. My goal with Leo is to get him to September if I can, and he knows that. Not knowing the player, and never having had the player in camp, I don't really know. His knee's been swelling just a little bit. We just did surgery on him this late spring, so we know it's not something that requires surgery but it does require management right now. The conversation I had with him is that look, I don't really know where you are as a player in terms of where you feel you are rep-wise, confidence-wise. If you want to play, we'll play a little bit on Saturday night. If you want to take tomorrow basically off, Saturday off, Sunday off, come back practice Monday afternoon . . . if those three days are going to make a big difference - we'll probably have a couple two-a-days next week - you might wind up being in the same situation you are this week next week. I just have to get the player to tell me what he needs, that's all. And then based on that, we'll decide whether we play him or leave him here.

Obviously you're trying to figure out if your two young quarterbacks can be your backup, what's your threshold for inexperience?

PARCELLS: What's my threshold? Well if I knew how to relate threshold to football exactly, I would answer that. It's just like any other position really. I think they've had pretty good preparation. I think Tony Romo understands the offense pretty well. And I think it's just a question of getting them in there behind the team. I don't look at these guys any different than I looked at Drew Bledsoe. I mean there's a perfect example for you. Just put them in there and you hope they do well, and you take what they do and try to evaluate it for them and say, hey, here's what we need to work on and here's what we need to try to do better. Let's see what we can get ready for next week. Pete Hunter said you told him to try to pattern his game after Marcus Coleman, a former cornerback of yours with the Jets. PARCELLS: Yeah, physically, very much the same. Again, that goes back to that reservoir of players you've had that you can kind of relate to. That's exactly right. Now I think Marcus is playing safety down there in Houston right now, I'm not sure. They said they're going to try him at safety. He has a lot of the same characteristics as Marcus physically. That's a good thing now. That's a good thing. He's tall, angular, he's got long arms. Those bigger guys, once in a while, they've got to watch their first step. They can get beat off the line off their first step so you've got to give them a little ammunition to deal with that. The plus side of that is when they jam you, they've got a chance to jam you pretty good and disrupt the route because they are long-armed, powerful, strong guys. Marcus is 200-something pounds, and Pete is 200 and something. That's a lot different from 185 or 190.
 
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Houston 18, Dallas 0</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER height="1" type="block" width="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Preview - Box Score - Recap </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>HOUSTON (AP) -- David Carr was almost perfect. The new-look Cowboys offense wasn't.

Carr was 7-of-8 for 89 yards and a touchdown Saturday in the Houston Texans' 18-0 victory over Dallas in their preseason opener, which featured the Dallas debuts of veterans Vinny Testaverde, Eddie George and Keyshawn Johnson.

Testaverde, the nominal starter after the Cowboys cut incumbent Quincy Carter on Aug. 4, was 4-of-7 for 34 yards, including one 13-yard completion to Johnson. George ran for 12 yards on five carries before the reserves took over.

``I'm very disappointed,'' Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said. ``We played everyone and I got to look at a lot of players, and I've decided to spend more time with the guys that will be playing.''

It was Dallas' first visit to Houston since the Texans shocked the Cowboys 19-10 in the franchise's inaugural game in 2002, though many of the Cowboys' faces have changed since then. It also marked the second straight season Dallas failed to score in its first exhibition game.

``Me and some other guys have been here for three years now,'' Carr said. ``Same offense, same coaches, and it's just a blessing. We just go out there and try to use it and do what we did today.''

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Dallas linebacker Dat Nguyen came away impressed with Carr.

``You could tell he felt a lot more confident out there (than before),'' Nguyen said. ``He is coming up. He is going to be one of the stars in the quarterback position in this league.''

Before the 40-year-old Testaverde left, he became uncomfortably familiar with Houston's two first-round draft choices, cornerback Dunta Robinson and linebacker Jason Babin.

Early in the second quarter, Robinson flashed his speed to break up what might have been a long completion down the middle to Antonio Bryant.

On the Cowboys' next possession, Babin broke through and stripped the ball from Testaverde. Antwan Peek recovered to set up a 25-yard field goal by Todd Sievers for a 13-0 lead.

``It was a good feeling to get out there and actually be in a real game where everybody was live and I could hit the quarterback,'' Babin said.

The Texans' starters bolted to a quick lead on Kris Brown's 36-yard field goal and a 12-yard touchdown pass from Carr to Jabar Gaffney, the last play for most of Houston's offensive starters.

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Tony Hollings, who started because Domanick Davis was sidelined with minor injuries, ran for 57 yards on 15 carries and caught two passes for 32 yards. He led Houston in rushing and receiving, though he also fumbled twice.

``That's one of the biggest mistakes you can make. I've got to do better on that,'' Hollings said. ``I'm sure the coach will talk to me about that.''

Leading the Cowboys reserves onto the field in the second quarter was quarterback Drew Henson, the former Michigan star and New York Yankees prospect drafted by the Texans last year. Once he gave up baseball in February, the Texans traded him to Dallas for a 2005 third-round pick.

Henson showed his ample promise on his second series when he completed his first four passes and drove the Cowboys to the Houston 9-yard line.

Then Henson, who hadn't played a football game since the 2001 Citrus Bowl, fired a ball directly to Texans safety Jason Simmons near the goal line.

The offense under Henson ate up most of the third quarter with a 10-play drive that stalled at the Houston 28. Billy Cundiff missed a 46-yard field goal wide left.

Henson left late in the third quarter after going 8-of-11 for 94 yards. Tony Romo, who like Henson never has thrown a regular-season pass, finished for the Cowboys.

``Tonight was disappointing,'' Henson said. ``I'll come back Monday recharged and I'll correct some things.''

Dallas rookie tailback Julius Jones didn't play until late in the second half, but still managed to lead the Cowboys with 57 yards rushing.

Houston's final score came on a safety when Jeremy Slechta tackled Romo in the end zone.

<SMALL>Notes</SMALL>

The paid Reliant Stadium attendance of 70,431 was the largest preseason showing in Houston pro football history. ... Ten Cowboys caught passes. Randal Williams led with 27 yards on his single reception. ... The game marked the Texans' first home preseason victory and their second overall. ... Texans rookie RB Jason Anderson went down late in the fourth quarter with a sprained right ankle.
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Looks like the boys need some work yet.
 
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heh. i hope you skins fans do get worked up over this!! please.!!! ha ha. you and your dinosaur of a coach are gonna finish in last. sorry.


btw - its preseason. uh... the boys won the superbowl and had a losing preseason. doesn't make a bit of difference when some starters play for a couple of series.

good to see jones get 57 though!

gibbs.... i guess anything is better than spurrier!!!! lol.
 
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Gibbs is one of the greatest coaches in the modern era, but the loss of Jansen with a left-handed QB is a killer.


That said, Interceptaverde is going nowhere near the promised land, either, I don't think, so y'all can bicker all season if you want :wink2:
 
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i don't think there is a cowboy fan alive that believes we are going to win the super bowl this year?!?! please.

testaverde is just keeping the seat warm until henson is ready. unfortunately the feagles are the team to beat in the division. def super bowl contender. i hate them too. :-)
 
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"i don't think there is a cowboy fan alive that believes we are going to win the super bowl this year?!?! please. "

You'd be surprised :wink2:

I think you're right though, Dallas is a team moving forward, and for that you can be very happy indeed. I think the Eagles are the team to beat for now, but they're getting old and signed the biggest locker room cancer in the NFL, so they may be on the way out soon.
 
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okay no realistic fan. unproven running game. yes i know george is there, but he hasn't shown much in the last few years. julius is a rook. testaverde at 40 isn't the answer and henson is a rook. also, CB - pete hunter? hasn't proven he can step it up and play with the big boys opposite of newman. Safeties and LB's I like. Dline "should" be good.. but Wiley has to prove he can get to the QB again like years past. too many ?'s imo. i think parcells has them headed in the right direction no doubt.

I agree about T.O. BUT, when you are lacking ANY weapon at all at WR, and you are "this close" to getting to the big dance, you take you chances. I hate T.O. but I think it was an awesome get. He should be the cure for what ailed them. or more specifically, what ailed mcnabb.
 
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bucknut74 said:
One word for the cowboys faithful:

Interceptaverde..

good luck, you'll need it.
Same game, different name. Cowboy QBs have been serving 'em up since Aikman retired...nothing we haven't seen before. :pissed:

Henson better be for real, but for now, it's Vinny.

Either way, it's nice to see the annual first preseason game shut out loss is out of the way. :bonk:
 
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head, and BSH:


Who's going to get the carries this year: Jones, Eddie, or Committee? Just wondering (OK, for my fantasy teams too, but...)



And as for TO, he better be, or else the team will implode, like the 49ers did.
 
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You have got to believe that Eddie starts but Jones gets his share. Depending on how they both due with their opportunities - one will see a greater share than the other. I think Eddie is past his prime. He is my favorite Buckeye ever but, I just haven't seen the production to warrant a fantasy pick on him. I say stay away from both unless one of them is your third back. I do think Eddie will get the goal line carries, but this is strictly my opinion based on size of each back.
 
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