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ATH Frank Epitropoulos (transfer to Michigan St)

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akronbuck;2061239; said:
bingo.nothing towards you. I just posted the other names cause, most fans on all buckeye sites think negative about WR'S with low ranking. At least, they knew how to run the routes and catch the ball:tongue2:
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I agree with you about people's thoughts on low ranked WRs. It's an interesting phenomena. I can't say I follow HS football close enough, but it seems to me that WR is a match-up where pure athletic ability (comparative to your competition) is most at issue. What I mean is - if speedy HS WR can just burn past everyone (Think, Ted Ginn) he doesn't have to do much to learn how to get open. Ginn, even, was able to rely on his speed in college as opposed to having to learn precise route running. Now, I think Ginn did become a better route runner at OSU, but in the NFL - his career as a WR isn't the same as what we enjoyed at Ohio State.

All I'm saying is, eventually, people catch up and one's commitment to the fundamentals takes over. Sanzo, for example, set himself apart not in pure athleticism like Ginn, but by being an extremely hard working and driven player who had the necessary athleticism to succeed.

So.. if you're a big fast HS WR, chances are you are able to exploit under athletic HS corners far more frequently than in college. But - if you're a less big and fast guy, you have to learn how to get open. You're not always open though, so you get a lower rating. Speedy McSpeederson, however, is always open.. so he gets the star rating..

Don't get me wrong, I would never have said "Get rid of this Ted Ginn character!" In fact, Ted is one of the players I wish could stay at Ohio State forever. But - at the same time, I think we saw this year the benefit of having a guy like Sanzo on the field too.

I think Sanzo made Pryor look like a pretty good QB. I think Smith made Ginn look like a pretty good WR.

That's not a knock on anyone. Just my opinion on the balance of it. All those players mentioned were highly skilled, on the field assets for Ohio State and I wouldn't have traded away any of them (Yes, including Pryor (And Yes to Maurice Clarett too, if you must know.)

I digress. I think WR is a position which lends itself to not really knowing for sure what you're going to get once they move on to D-I football. Some of the beasts can be covered, and they become "busts" But.. a kid who knows how to get open, in my opinion, has a leg up on the competition.

No disrespect to James Louis, but there's a reason he didn't see the field and ended up going elsewhere... I'm sure he was fast enough.... I have to believe he was a poor route runner or blocker.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2061255; said:
I agree with you about people's thoughts on low ranked WRs. It's an interesting phenomena. I can't say I follow HS football close enough, but it seems to me that WR is a match-up where pure athletic ability (comparative to your competition) is most at issue. What I mean is - if speedy HS WR can just burn past everyone (Think, Ted Ginn) he doesn't have to do much to learn how to get open. Ginn, even, was able to rely on his speed in college as opposed to having to learn precise route running. Now, I think Ginn did become a better route runner at OSU, but in the NFL - his career as a WR isn't the same as what we enjoyed at Ohio State.

All I'm saying is, eventually, people catch up and one's commitment to the fundamentals takes over. Sanzo, for example, set himself apart not in pure athleticism like Ginn, but by being an extremely hard working and driven player who had the necessary athleticism to succeed.

So.. if you're a big fast HS WR, chances are you are able to exploit under athletic HS corners far more frequently than in college. But - if you're a less big and fast guy, you have to learn how to get open. You're not always open though, so you get a lower rating. Speedy McSpeederson, however, is always open.. so he gets the star rating..

Don't get me wrong, I would never have said "Get rid of this Ted Ginn character!" In fact, Ted is one of the players I wish could stay at Ohio State forever. But - at the same time, I think we saw this year the benefit of having a guy like Sanzo on the field too.

I think Sanzo made Pryor look like a pretty good QB. I think Smith made Ginn look like a pretty good WR.

That's not a knock on anyone. Just my opinion on the balance of it. All those players mentioned were highly skilled, on the field assets for Ohio State and I wouldn't have traded away any of them (Yes, including Pryor (And Yes to Maurice Clarett too, if you must know.)

I digress. I think WR is a position which lends itself to not really knowing for sure what you're going to get once they move on to D-I football. Some of the beasts can be covered, and they become "busts" But.. a kid who knows how to get open, in my opinion, has a leg up on the competition.

No disrespect to James Louis, but there's a reason he didn't see the field and ended up going elsewhere... I'm sure he was fast enough.... I have to believe he was a poor route runner or blocker.
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I think the joke was that they were only comparing him to white WRs.
 
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Frank is a Buckeye

Thanks for the 2011 hilight film!

If running beyond the camera range is a good measure of a wide receiver, then thumbs up! I grew weary of TV announcers saying that the buckeye receivers could not get separation.

A fast punter is good for fake punts, and a fast punter is good for punt coverage. I remember Andy Groom making a terrific tackle from behind in the 2002 title game. If Miami did not later score on that drive, we owe a national championship.
 
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