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Atlanta Braves (4x World Series Champions)

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BigWoof31;1687644; said:
Heyward had an RBI last night and it was his turn to give Chipper a big hug after Jones hit the go-ahead HR. Braves win 3-2!
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He also had 2K's. I wonder how long it will take him to adjust to the MLB curve. So far it's been his kryptonite. I don't see it becoming his bane as easily as it happened to Francoeur though.
 
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TheRob8801;1687648; said:
He also had 2K's. I wonder how long it will take him to adjust to the MLB curve. So far it's been his kryptonite. I don't see it becoming his bane as easily as it happened to Francoeur though.
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He just needs to keep his bats warm....

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Francouer's just wasn't the curve that bothered him - he simply refused to work the count. I don't have a problem with Hayward missing on breaking balls - calls he lays off the high and outside stuff (for now) and Francouer never did.

Francouer has a helluva arm though...likely better than Heyward.
 
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BigWoof31;1687653; said:
Francouer has a helluva arm though...likely better than Heyward.
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Francouer could throw the ball from Marietta to the Ted...I don't mind trading that arm for a more solid bat though. What most people haven't been talking about much, that I think we're gonna see real soon, is how solid of a fielder Jason is. I'd venture that Jay Hey's got more range.
 
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TheRob8801;1691428; said:
J-Hey's line through 9 games.

.303BA 3HR 12RBI .410OPS .667SLG
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With more strikeouts than Adam Dunn or Mark Reynolds. It ain't lasting, IMO. I'm sure he'll have a fine enough year, but some of the predictions I've read are over the top.
 
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3074326;1691490; said:
I'd gladly take his Ks with those numbers.
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Me too, but my point is that the Ks are an indicator that it probably won't last. I predicted .275/20/80 a while back, and I think that's probably just about right, but we shall see. It seems like every year a rookie is hyped as the greatest hitter to come along in years, and the reality is that rarely do rookies justify that kind of praise on the field in their first season. I'm sure Heyward will be a good one, but .275/20/80 is pretty average for an outfielder in this day and age. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and go .300/35/110, but I doubt it.
 
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3074326;1691490; said:
I'd gladly take his Ks with those numbers.
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If he can hit .300 with those Ks no one will care...if he's around .250 and leaves a lot of ducks on the pond, he won't be nearly as effective. The Braves have always been good at getting guys on base...their best teams also had the Earl Weaver 3-run homer guys, and those guys were often in lower spots in the batting order as well (i.e. Klesko for a while, Javy Lopez, even David Justice, etc). I am predicting something of a Bob Hamelin type rookie year...282 BA, 25 doubles, 24 HR, 64 RBI, .599 SLG...with way more than Hamelin's 64 Ks. If he can do better than that in a few of those categories, he will probably be ROY like Hamelin was.

EDIT: Hamelin had a .987 OPS that year...not sure Heyward can reach that because I don't think he'll walk much.
 
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You guys are forgetting that he's got [censored] for brains Nate McClouth hitting behind him and these numbers are coming from the 7 spot.

It's not like he's leaving alot of ducks on the pond


***NM - Bucklion made the point for me.
 
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sepia5;1691492; said:
Me too, but my point is that the Ks are an indicator that it probably won't last. I predicted .275/20/80 a while back, and I think that's probably just about right, but we shall see. It seems like every year a rookie is hyped as the greatest hitter to come along in years, and the reality is that rarely do rookies justify that kind of praise on the field in their first season. I'm sure Heyward will be a good one, but .275/20/80 is pretty average for an outfielder in this day and age. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and go .300/35/110, but I doubt it.
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Yeah, I wasn't really disagreeing with what you had to say, just making an obvious statement. :tongue2:

I hate the Braves, but I really like this kid. Rooting for him to be a beast.
 
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sepia5;1691485; said:
With more strikeouts than Adam Dunn or Mark Reynolds. It ain't lasting, IMO. I'm sure he'll have a fine enough year, but some of the predictions I've read are over the top.
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As far as I can tell my fantasy leagues don't count his Ks. So he can strike out as much as he wants as long as he keeps those numbers up :biggrin:
 
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3074326;1691490; said:
I'd gladly take his Ks with those numbers.
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8 Ks in his first 4 games (2 off of Ryan Dempster), 4 in his last 5.

In 5 of the 7 games in which he has a K, he has an RBI.

He also has 6 walks on the season so far.

If the trends continue, I'll definitely take the Ks with those numbers as well...
 
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