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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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I was just basing my view off of the excitement the Texas games generated.The excitement would be there for Oklahoma and Nebraska.They all have the great tradition the Big Ten offers.We all know as long as ND and NBC are as one we have no shot so thats why I never mentioned them as a possibility.Would you rather pay 100$ to see Texas or Youngstown State?
 
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Jaxbuck;894732; said:
Way outside the box but do any of the MAC teams fit the bill academically?

Miami maybe? They can't be that much worse than IU or NU athletically.
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I'm surprised ORD hasn't chimed in on this comment yet. Whenever somebody on here mentions Miami, I think somebody puts up a Bat Signal over his house. :tongue2:

To answer your question, none of the institutions in the MAC including Miami fit the academic profile of the B10. That "academic profile" primarily concerns an institution's standing in the areas of research and graduate programs. Miami is a very good undergraduate institution, but they do not come close when it comes to research and graduate programs. Where the B10 is comprised of the top-tier flagship institutions from their respective states, the MAC is comprised of second-tier institutions (that's not meant as an insult - it's just the way it is).

BTW, the people that are calling for Penn State's membership to be revoked are very shortsighted.
 
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On the front page of CBSSportsline right now, it has a bit of a Big Ten preview, and a mention of the idea of expanding the conference to a 12th school. The interesting thing is that they threw Texas out there as a possibility. I have no idea where that came from - I didn't see any other article that could have elaborated on that a little bit. Somebody probably just pulled it out of their ass.

EDIT: It appears the Texas idea was pulled from the ass of Dennis Dodd (surprise, surprise).

NCAA Football - CBS SportsLine.com
 
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Funny article

Open Letter to ND, Big Ten

Why the Irish, conference need each other -- now

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Charlie Weis and Notre Dame might be 3-0 instead of 0-3 if they played a typical Big Ten non-conference schedule.


Mr. Jim Delany
Commissioner, Big Ten Conference
Chicago, Ill.
Dr. Kevin White
Director of Athletics, University of Notre Dame
South Bend, Ind.

Gentlemen:
I hope this letter finds you both doing well ... but then, who am I kidding?
I'm sure these past few weeks have not been the most enjoyable for either of you. Commissioner, you've had to deal with such maddening occurrences as Appalachian State stunning Michigan in Ann Arbor, Florida Atlantic beating Minnesota and 0-22 Duke knocking off Northwestern (which must have felt doubly cruel, seeing as you're a UNC guy).
As for you, Dr. White, I'm sure when you handed over that Fort Knox-sized contract extension to Charlie Weis a couple years ago, you were expecting a slightly bigger return on your investment than, say, zero offensive touchdowns through three games. It's too bad you didn't structure the deal so that he'd be paid per rushing yard. That way, he'd owe you money right now.
But, hey, I'm not writing you guys to dwell on the negatives. On the contrary, I'm hoping to help facilitate a solution. As a native Midwesterner myself, I think we can agree it's in all our best interests to help make sure college football in that part of the country doesn't become completely irrelevant.
What I'm proposing is simple. It's time to put pride, ego, stubbornness and all that other junk aside and to admit the obvious: Notre Dame needs the Big Ten, and the Big Ten needs Notre Dame. Enough dilly-dallying already. Let's make this thing happen.

Entire article: SI.com - Writers - Stewart Mandel: Big Ten, Irish need each other - Thursday September 20, 2007 11:36AM
 
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ScriptOhio said:
It's time to put pride, ego, stubbornness and all that other junk aside and to admit the obvious: Notre Dame needs the Big Ten, and the Big Ten needs Notre Dame.
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AhhhahahahaahaPASS. At least for now.

But at the same time, what other team in the country has opened its season with three consecutive games against New Year's Day bowl participants from last year (Georgia Tech, Penn State and Michigan)?
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But we aren't really talking about making a good showing yet winding up on the short end, are we? The only thing Notre Dame needs to be focusing on right now is getting their ship in some sort of order. If ND ever did join the B10, it should be to strengthen the identity of the conference, and ND's been in identity crisis mode for quite some time.
 
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Deety;935336; said:
AhhhahahahaahaPASS. At least for now.

But we aren't really talking about making a good showing yet winding up on the short end, are we? The only thing Notre Dame needs to be focusing on right now is getting their ship in some sort of order. If ND ever did join the B10, it should be to strengthen the identity of the conference, and ND's been in identity crisis mode for quite some time.
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I am probably in the minority when I say that I want to see ND in the Big10. Overall, I think it would be great for the conference to bring in new viewers and fans. Also, while their football team may be in a lull over the past dozens years or so, they are still competitive in other sports as well as an academic stalwart.

Also, it would be great to see The Bucks hand ND an ass-kicking on a regular basis.

But that's just me

Does the Big10 need them as Stewie contends? Hell, no. If ND doesn't want to join, then screw'em. The Big10 should never beg or make concessions to ND. I think they have more to gain than we do. Let them come to us.
 
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I think the author is overstressing the "need" for the Big 10 here. But one good thing that this would bring about, with the addition of a 12th team, is the creation of a conference championship game. I feel that eliminating the extra 2 week layoff that Big 10 teams currently face could do nothing but good for the conference in bowl games.
 
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The Conference championship game is the very reason I am scepticle. I don't want to enter into the debate of their purpose either I would just like to say that midwestern teams will remain relevant so long as we continue to produce the talent that we do. So I don't believe that our 100+ years of tradition are in jeopardy. That said it does makes perfect sense to adopt Notre Dame, though it does sicken me to acknowledge that that would include Charlie Weiss. And I am fairly confident that they will eventually join. But I guarantee that it will be their necessities and not ours that force the agreement.

As far as I am concerned, last year the National Championship took play within our conference, and now we need Notre Dame to save ourselves. ESPN and the runoff media that they are responsible are laughable. However, even I will concede that it is time that Michigan took on a new coach. And that is not an endorsement for Ron English.
 
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Charlie Weis and Notre Dame might be 3-0 instead of 0-3 if they played a typical Big Ten non-conference schedule.
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appy state beat scum, scum demolished the domers. but yeah... nd would definitely be 3-0 if they were playing a weaksauce big 10 schedule. and i would imagine they weould have faired pretty well once the big 10 season started as well. i mean, just look at the penn state and scum games. its obvious that from a football perspective the domers belong.
 
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I would suggest.............

I would suggest West Virginia, (primarily) followed by Louisville. Might be far fetched but they are not in any existing Big Ten States. This vacates a spot in the Big East; I'm sure Marshall would be interested in that.

I just think either WV or Louisville would be the best thing for the Big Ten. Not Missouri, and not Notre Dame.
 
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This topic has come up so many times and I've hopped all over the spectrum, but I'm pretty much settled on contraction now, not expansion. Dump Penn State, let them go over to the Big East, where they're a better fit geographically and in the same conference as their natural rival, Pitt, and contract the Big Ten back down to ten teams, playing a full round-robin schedule like the Pac Ten.

Indiana does not have either Ohio State or Michigan on their schedule this year. When you combine the way their offense is running right now, a weak schedule, and how bad Wisconsin and Iowa have looked, there is a very real possibility that IU could go 7-1 in the conference, presuming a loss to Penn St. That might be good enough to win the conference, or at least tie for a share of the conference title.

You think "the Big Ten is down" chorus is loud now? What the hell happens if the Big Ten sends Indi-fucking-ana to a BCS Bowl?

Indiana. Big Ten Champs. Our conference crowned Northwestern back-to-back Big Ten champs last decade on the strength of dodging two of the best teams Ohio State has ever fielded, as well as missing Nick Saban's Michigan State squads, two years in a row, and we've learned nothing from this?
 
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Dryden;936169; said:
This topic has come up so many times and I've hopped all over the spectrum, but I'm pretty much settled on contraction now, not expansion. Dump Penn State, let them go over to the Big East, where they're a better fit geographically and in the same conference as their natural rival, Pitt, and contract the Big Ten back down to ten teams, playing a full round-robin schedule like the Pac Ten.

Indiana does not have either Ohio State or Michigan on their schedule this year. When you combine the way their offense is running right now, a weak schedule, and how bad Wisconsin and Iowa have looked, there is a very real possibility that IU could go 7-1 in the conference, presuming a loss to Penn St. That might be good enough to win the conference, or at least tie for a share of the conference title.

You think "the Big Ten is down" chorus is loud now? What the hell happens if the Big Ten sends Indi-fucking-ana to a BCS Bowl?

Indiana. Big Ten Champs. Our conference crowned Northwestern back-to-back Big Ten champs last decade on the strength of dodging two of the best teams Ohio State has ever fielded, as well as missing Nick Saban's Michigan State squads, two years in a row, and we've learned nothing from this?
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I'm with you but even though their fans would probably be happy with a switch, there is no way in hell the University is going to say bye bye to all the B10 money.

I've been saying contract to 10 instead of expand to 12 for a long time but its simply not going to happen. 12 means more money than 10.
 
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