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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
I hope we aren't still making moves for ND, out white whale. You go after southern cal cause USC is a great program unhappy with it's situation and fits the academic profile despite being a private. Not cause you think it will get you ND at this point

That's not what he implied. The priority was/is SC and once they put pen to paper, then you call ND.
 
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College football realignment fallout: What's next with Texas, Oklahoma stating intent to leave Big 12 for SEC

Look for the Big Ten to make some moves -- quickly -- and TV networks to have their say

Big Ten is on the clock


With Texas and Oklahoma on board, the SEC will at least have the potential to pass the Big Ten as the No. 1 revenue conference.

That almost compels the Big Ten to act. Its teams earn more than $50 million per year between TV rights, Big Ten Network money, bowl payouts and NCAA Tournament revenues. Its media rights contracts expire next year, so even without adding teams, the Big Ten and its members are due for a windfall.

But which teams out there add "pro rata"? In other words, which teams are worth proportional value of $50 million-plus per year?

The biggest remaining chips on the realignment board are Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame and USC. The Buckeyes and Wolverines aren't going anywhere. Notre Dame has shown no indication of assimilating into the ACC permanently after playing there (successfully, mind you) in 2020 due to COVID-19.

It's conceivable the big cigars at USC, tired of the underachieving Pac-12, could be interested in joining the Big Ten. That gives the Trojans better access to the playoff and certainly more money.

Such a move would probably involve getting travel partners in Washington, Colorado and possibly Arizona State. That would bring the Los Angeles, Seattle, Denver and Phoenix markets into the Big Ten. What would UCLA and Oregon (and Nike) have to say about that?

Don't sweat the travel. Geography ceased to matter in realignment long ago. Think of a West Coast scheduling "pod" that could include USC, Washington, Colorado, Arizona State, Nebraska and Iowa.

That's the next potential blockbuster, at least comparable to what the SEC just did. That's a Big Ten with conceivably seven of the top 16 TV markets in the country stretching coast-to-coast. Before all this occurred, Rutgers was handed a document from the Big Ten during its assimilation into the league. It stated the league's per school revenue would be $67 million by 2027. Now try to imagine if the West Coast joined in.

Kevin Warren being a rookie commissioner who struggled to align the Big Ten around COVID-19, it's hard to envision such a massive move for the conference. But with Texas' interest in the SEC spurred by a powerful board of regents chair, there are powerful forces above commissioners that could make this happen.

The Left Coast seems vulnerable in a Big 12 sort of way. However, the Big Ten could instead turn the other direction and try to beat the SEC to the punch in terms of world domination by going after Clemson and Florida State.

A source told CBS Sports over the weekend that Clemson is absolutely committed to the ACC.

Would Kansas be on the Big Ten's short list? Believe it or not, football remains the primary revenue driver at KU. Its languishing football program might be a plus in realignment. Big Ten football is strong enough to absorb a team that would be an automatic W despite it subtracting from overall schedule strength. It would be a no-brainer because Jayhawks basketball is a historically great program.

Interesting note: In the last round of realignment, former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany went after some combination of Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Virginia. He settled for Maryland and Rutgers.

Delany brilliantly signed a short-term six-year TV deal that expires in 2022. With the Big Ten standing as the next major conference to renegotiate, will it sign a mini-extension to 2025 allowing its deal to sync up with those in the Big 12 if it wants to go after Kansas and/or Iowa State? Or will it take a giant swing and look West?

Warren was asked twice by CBS Sports over the weekend whether the SEC's move compelled the Big Ten to expand. He did not answer directly. "You could feel the ground in college athletics was going to shift," he said.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ahoma-stating-intent-to-leave-big-12-for-sec/
 
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College football realignment fallout: What's next with Texas, Oklahoma stating intent to leave Big 12 for SEC

Look for the Big Ten to make some moves -- quickly -- and TV networks to have their say

Big Ten is on the clock


With Texas and Oklahoma on board, the SEC will at least have the potential to pass the Big Ten as the No. 1 revenue conference.

That almost compels the Big Ten to act. Its teams earn more than $50 million per year between TV rights, Big Ten Network money, bowl payouts and NCAA Tournament revenues. Its media rights contracts expire next year, so even without adding teams, the Big Ten and its members are due for a windfall.

But which teams out there add "pro rata"? In other words, which teams are worth proportional value of $50 million-plus per year?

The biggest remaining chips on the realignment board are Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame and USC. The Buckeyes and Wolverines aren't going anywhere. Notre Dame has shown no indication of assimilating into the ACC permanently after playing there (successfully, mind you) in 2020 due to COVID-19.

It's conceivable the big cigars at USC, tired of the underachieving Pac-12, could be interested in joining the Big Ten. That gives the Trojans better access to the playoff and certainly more money.

Such a move would probably involve getting travel partners in Washington, Colorado and possibly Arizona State. That would bring the Los Angeles, Seattle, Denver and Phoenix markets into the Big Ten. What would UCLA and Oregon (and Nike) have to say about that?

Don't sweat the travel. Geography ceased to matter in realignment long ago. Think of a West Coast scheduling "pod" that could include USC, Washington, Colorado, Arizona State, Nebraska and Iowa.

That's the next potential blockbuster, at least comparable to what the SEC just did. That's a Big Ten with conceivably seven of the top 16 TV markets in the country stretching coast-to-coast. Before all this occurred, Rutgers was handed a document from the Big Ten during its assimilation into the league. It stated the league's per school revenue would be $67 million by 2027. Now try to imagine if the West Coast joined in.

Kevin Warren being a rookie commissioner who struggled to align the Big Ten around COVID-19, it's hard to envision such a massive move for the conference. But with Texas' interest in the SEC spurred by a powerful board of regents chair, there are powerful forces above commissioners that could make this happen.

The Left Coast seems vulnerable in a Big 12 sort of way. However, the Big Ten could instead turn the other direction and try to beat the SEC to the punch in terms of world domination by going after Clemson and Florida State.

A source told CBS Sports over the weekend that Clemson is absolutely committed to the ACC.

Would Kansas be on the Big Ten's short list? Believe it or not, football remains the primary revenue driver at KU. Its languishing football program might be a plus in realignment. Big Ten football is strong enough to absorb a team that would be an automatic W despite it subtracting from overall schedule strength. It would be a no-brainer because Jayhawks basketball is a historically great program.

Interesting note: In the last round of realignment, former Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany went after some combination of Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Virginia. He settled for Maryland and Rutgers.

Delany brilliantly signed a short-term six-year TV deal that expires in 2022. With the Big Ten standing as the next major conference to renegotiate, will it sign a mini-extension to 2025 allowing its deal to sync up with those in the Big 12 if it wants to go after Kansas and/or Iowa State? Or will it take a giant swing and look West?

Warren was asked twice by CBS Sports over the weekend whether the SEC's move compelled the Big Ten to expand. He did not answer directly. "You could feel the ground in college athletics was going to shift," he said.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ahoma-stating-intent-to-leave-big-12-for-sec/

it is strange that Oregon was never mentioned.
 
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What did the Corleone family do after they locked up their home turf? Did they go South and get into the rooster fighting, moonshine and stock car racing businesses? Or did they go West and corner the market on Vegas casinos and muscling the Hollywood studios?

Sure, we might have to send Sparty to the bottom of Lake Tahoe, but that's a cost I'm willing to pay. It's nothing personal; it's just business.

This is the 'elevator pitch' that Kevin Warren needs to hear.
 
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it is strange that Oregon was never mentioned.

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The states of California, Washington, Colorado, and Arizona have a higher population than Oregon; hence more TV sets and potentially more B1G Network money.
 
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The states of California, Washington, Colorado, and Arizona have a higher population than Oregon; hence more TV sets and potentially more B1G Network money.

dare I say Oregon is more of a national brand than SC or even scUM. Kids from coast to coast buy UO gear and tune in to watch them. When streaming overtakes cable delivery, UO will be a huge deal
 
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dare I say Oregon is more of a national brand than SC or even scUM. Kids from coast to coast buy UO gear and tune in to watch them. When streaming overtakes cable delivery, UO will be a huge deal

There are 2 additional factors to consider too:

1) Is whatever national brand Oregon is today a temporary thing? How much of a national brand will they be in 10 years? They don't have the "storied history" of football success like some other schools: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/oregon/index.html

Remember some of Chip Kelly's success at Oregon was due to NCAA violations too:
The NCAA has taken away a scholarship and placed Oregon's football program on probation for three years for recruiting violations under previous coach Chip Kelly. The NCAA's Division I Infractions Committee released a report on Wednesday that found Kelly and the university failed to monitor the program.

Phil Knight is 83 years old, will the extra money he funnels to the school dry up after he dies? I don't think the Nike money alone will cut it. Oregon's Nike contract isn't any better than Ohio State's, in fact it may not be as good:

Nike Reaches $252 Million Deal to Extend Sponsorship at Ohio State
Extends contract by 15 years, escalates an arms race over shoes and gear
Jan. 16, 2016
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nike-r...o-extend-sponsorship-at-ohio-state-1452811305

Nike, Oregon Reportedly Agree to 11-Year, $88 Million Apparel Contract
NOVEMBER 30, 2017
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-agree-to-11-year-88-million-apparel-contract

2) The CBS sports reporter (i.e. Dennis Dodd) that wrote the article is really a just "dick-head".
 
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This whole fucking thing has been done to fuck with the 2024 game @ Washington. Somehow, someway, the universe will make it so I don't get to go to that game.

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If you do go to the game I sure hope you know how to spell O-H-I-O at the Washington tailgate party, unlike a few others from Buckeye Planet that I could mention......:lol:
 
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Big Ten is on the clock


Warren was asked twice by CBS Sports over the weekend whether the SEC's move compelled the Big Ten to expand. He did not answer directly. "You could feel the ground in college athletics was going to shift," he said.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ahoma-stating-intent-to-leave-big-12-for-sec/

Regardless of how any sentence staring with ‘Warren was asked … ‘ is finished, the following sentence will always be accurate - “He did not answer directly.”
 
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Take the Cali schools, OU and UW, and make that the Pacific division. They'd have 5 division games and 2 games each with teams from the Great Lakes and Atlantic divisions. That would ensure that in almost every year, each of those schools would have one of Ohio State, tsun, pedsters, Wisconsin, Iowa and Nebraska on their schedule. Every existing B1G fanbase would get a road trip to LA, SF, Portland or Seattle every couple of years. Two highest ranked division winners play for the championship.

Game over. PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE!
 
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I just don't see the AAU thing remaining relevant to the B1G if this goes to a semi-pro model. I can see them extending membership to schools but excluding them from the Big Ten Academic Alliance to placate the academics. Or else a bunch of schools may have their football programs break off the conferences altogether and form a football only super league.
 
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