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Big Ten Men's Basketball Awards Thread

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coastalbuck said:
I don't know if I'd call it shafted but it is a shame that a floor leader with assists to turnover ratios as good as his gets little recognition.
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people are enamored by obvious things IMO, which is why TD wins POY and Jamar gets no recognition. I love Dials, and he's become a beast down the stretch, but the first 1/3 of the year he played like 'tinkerbell' at times, as matta called it. We could not have done this without TD, and he was probably the main catalyst to pull ahead and remain in 1st (since Foster and the rest stopped hitting threes), but I think Je'Kel and Jamar were more valuable players for the buckeyes.

I'm not complaining though. He's been good for a double double almost every game for a number of weeks now.
 
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after listening to hooley rattle off some stats, its alarming how right he is about butler being shafted. Here is the post I made on GBW afterwards:

it is ludicrous that butler is getting shafted on the all-conference teams, and didn't even make the first team defense list. I continue to state that Dee Brown might be the most overrated player in the nation.

Against butler:
daniel horton 9-33
jeff horner 0-8 2 pts
dee brown 5-13 12 pts 3 ass/4 to
drew neitzel 1-5/1-4
kammron taylor 3-10 3 ass/2 to, 3-9 0 ass/3 to

how many more elite guards does butler have to shut down before he gets any credit?

Assist to turnover ratio:
neitzel 3-1 (almost)
butler 2.5-1
horton 2-1
brown 2-1
horner 2-1

Butler shoots FTs better than everyone but horton.
Butler shoots better from the field than all of them.

Usually I find Bruce Hooley on 1460 to be a little bit of a tool, but he's dead on with this one.

Exactly how can you explain that Butler isn't the best PG, or at worst the second best, in the league?
- If you have the second best TO/Assist ratio, better shooting, #2 in FTs, and by far the best on-ball defense... how do you not give him any recognition at all?

Answer: he's not a senior.
 
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Guarantee that JB will be 1st team all-conference preseason next year. If he plays to his potential, he'll be all-conference in both offensive and defensive categories and challenge for B10 POY next season as a JR. Alando Tucker could beat him out possibly, he's a beast.
 
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What is noteworthy about those lists is how few underclassmen there are. Eight of the top 10 in coaches poll are seniors and the other two are juniors. And the all Frosh team is particularly unimpressive.

Things look good for the team that can bring in a strong class next season.
 
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Oh8ch said:
What is noteworthy about those lists is how few underclassmen there are. Eight of the top 10 in coaches poll are seniors and the other two are juniors. And the all Frosh team is particularly unimpressive.

Things look good for the team that can bring in a strong class next season.
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So.....are any of the Big 10 teams bringing in good classes? Does OSU have anyone good coming in? :wink:
 
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Dispatch

3/8/06

Dials, Matta are recognized as Big Ten’s best

Buckeyes win player, coach of year honors

Wednesday, March 08, 2006

Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

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RENEE SAUER | DISPATCH Thad Matta has been coach of the year in three conferences: Big Ten, Atlantic 10 and Midwestern Collegiate.
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Terence Dials said last weekend that a season-long feeling of being disrespected by outsiders drove the Ohio State men’s basketball team to win the Big Ten championship.

The Buckeyes need a new motivational vehicle for postseason play.

Their first outright conference championship in 14 years earned Dials and coach Thad Matta the Big Ten’s top individual awards yesterday. Dials was voted player of the year by coaches and media and Matta was voted coach of the year by the media. The coaches do not give an award to one of their own.

"I’ve got to give a lot of credit to a lot of different people. The coaching staff probably ranks No. 1 and my teammates second," said Dials, a fifth-year senior who made the All-Big Ten first team for the first time in his career.

"Talentwise, there are probably guys that are better, but for what they meant to their team, obviously they didn’t win the championship and maybe they didn’t do as well as a team. That’s why it’s probably more of a team award than anything."

Dials, a 6-foot-9 center, had a streak of five double-doubles in points and rebounds as Ohio State won eight of its past nine Big Ten games to win the championship by one game over Illinois and Iowa. Dials finished ninth in the conference in scoring (15.3 points per game), fourth in rebounding (8.0) and third in fieldgoal percentage (.581).

"For Terence, you can look and say this is a great lesson in life," Matta said. "When you’re a real good guy, good things are going to happen. The teammate that he is, his teammates put him in a position to win that honor. All the hard work he’s done, it’s good to see it pay off for him."

Matta, 38 and in his second season at Ohio State, led the Buckeyes to a 12-4 record in conference play. They are 23-4 overall, ranked No. 7 and the No. 1 seed in the Big Ten tournament this week in Indianapolis.

It is the third such award for Matta in six seasons as a head coach. He also was honored after winning regular-season and conference tournament championships at Butler in 2001 and Xavier in 2002.

"He knows how to motivate kids and get you to play one game at a time and not look past anybody," Dials said. "He took (the season opener against) Chicago State just as seriously as he took Michigan State in preparing to win. That’s one of his mottoes: ‘Never get tired of preparing to win.’ When you see a coach watching tons of film on Chicago State and taking them as serious as (any other team), you’ve got to respect that and go out there and work hard for him every day."

Guard Je’Kel Foster, the Big Ten leader in steals and one of its top three-point shooters, was voted second-team all-conference by coaches and to the third team by the media. Coaches also voted him to one of five positions on the all-defensive team.

"I’m glad my defense is getting recognized," Foster said.

If anyone can still play the respect card, it is point guard Jamar Butler. He was voted to the third team by the media and honorable mention by the coaches despite having the secondbest assist-to-turnover ratio in the Big Ten, one of the best three-point shooting percentages and winning almost every matchup he had against other point guards in the conference.

Coaches also did not vote him to the all-defensive team.

"I’m happy for Je’Kel because (defense was) one of our main focuses going into this season," Matta said. "I was hoping a guy like Jamar would have a crack at that (team) as well, but as I told him, he’s still got to prove himself."

Butler said he was "a little surprised" he did not make the all-defensive team. "But I’m only a sophomore and I have two more years to play in this league. Hopefully, I can get it my junior and senior year."

Ron Lewis would have been the favorite for the newly created sixth man award but started one game too many (six) to qualify, Matta said.

A former teammate of Lewis’ at Brookhaven High School, Jamelle Cornley of Penn State, was voted freshman of the year.

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Bucky Katt said:
So.....are any of the Big 10 teams bringing in good classes? Does OSU have anyone good coming in? :wink:
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There's a big guy and some guards that people seem to like, not really sure though.

Why not try the recruiting forum or, provided that they can stop vomiting in the corner long enough to post over there, you might try the Wake Forest board! :slappy:
 
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