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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

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Mrstickball;1856109; said:
The one thing I thought was interesting, and didn't know was concerning the paralells between the hiring of Jim Tressel and Brady Hoke.

In fact, I never really knew what was surrounding Tress until today (always wondered, though).

First, OSU went after Jon Gruden.

That didn't pan out, so we tried to go after the west coast star - Mike Belotti from Oregon. Then it was between Glen Mason and Tressel, who was the favorite by our AD, which seemed like a bad pick in some camps.

It'd seem that Brady got picked out of a similar group - there were two people that looked better (Harbaugh and Miles).

Only time will tell if the similarities end, but I think that Hoke will at least give OSU a better run for their money - even if it is Cooper-esque. I doubt he will turn them into a perennial dynasty like OSU, but I think he'll be able to get them to some top-tier bowl games - something RichRod may of never been able to do.
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Difference is, JT was already an Ohio legend with a championship pedigree. Hoke is a sub-.500 coach with two pretty good years. I think Hoke will be a major step up from dickrod (not that that's an accomplishment), but they're getting Lloyd Carr v2.0...not a bad hire at all, but I can't see him getting near the heights JT has reached in Columbus.
 
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Muck;1856012; said:
The irony is that he still says Ohio.

Whereas Woody wisely wouldn't invoke the name of That State Up North.

Poor imitation is the lamest form of flattery.
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QFT

TSIO is weak, the whole point of TSUN was not to say Michigan if you are going to say Ohio you might as well say state.

For the record I think he will be a good coach for Michigan, I just think that was kind of stupid. If you are going to come up with something so that you don't have to say the name of the school, then you better not say any part of it.
 
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Mrstickball;1856109; said:
The one thing I thought was interesting, and didn't know was concerning the paralells between the hiring of Jim Tressel and Brady Hoke.

In fact, I never really knew what was surrounding Tress until today (always wondered, though).

First, OSU went after Jon Gruden.

That didn't pan out, so we tried to go after the west coast star - Mike Belotti from Oregon. Then it was between Glen Mason and Tressel, who was the favorite by our AD, which seemed like a bad pick in some camps.

It'd seem that Brady got picked out of a similar group - there were two people that looked better (Harbaugh and Miles).

Only time will tell if the similarities end, but I think that Hoke will at least give OSU a better run for their money - even if it is Cooper-esque. I doubt he will turn them into a perennial dynasty like OSU, but I think he'll be able to get them to some top-tier bowl games - something RichRod may of never been able to do.
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I dont think this is the case....if I remember correctly his name barely came up in conjecture but he was in his prime in the NFL at the time..could be wrong. I remember Herbie trying to pimp Stoops and acted like he might be interested. Any way I think Hoke does have very similar parallels in that its not the sexy pick but the right one for the time...
 
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My only question is how many passes does he get in The Game? It honestly doesn't look good for Michigan until the house is at least mostly cleaned out, so two to three years. Even if year four is a close game how restless do the natives get?
 
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Thank you, LSUFreek...
bradyhokewolverine.jpg
 
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Here's the story, of a brand new AD
Who was searching for a coach to lead the Blue
All the alums had hoped for someone, like Jim Harbaugh
But that went down the tubes

Here's the story, of a man named Brady
Who was busy with a WAC team of his own
They went 9-4, with a bowl win
Yet his love of A2 was well known

'Til the one day when the AD called this fellow
And they met in San Diego over lunch
Where an offer was made to join the Michigan family
That's the way U-M became the Brady Bunch.

The Brady Bunch.
The Brady Bunch.
That's the way we became the Brady Bunch!

:slappy:
 
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ScriptOhio;1856168; said:
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Here's the story, of a brand new AD
Who was searching for a coach to lead the Blue
All the alums had hoped for someone, like Jim Harbaugh
But that went down the tubes

Here's the story, of a man named Brady
Who was busy with a WAC team of his own
They went 9-4, with a bowl win
Yet his love of A2 was well known

'Til the one day when the AD called this fellow
And they met in San Diego over lunch
Where an offer was made to join the Michigan family
That's the way U-M became the Brady Bunch.

The Brady Bunch.
The Brady Bunch.
That's the way we became the Brady Bunch!

:slappy:
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I really hope his wife isn't Marsha - Marsha,Marsha,Marsha
 
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Mrstickball;1856109; said:
The one thing I thought was interesting, and didn't know was concerning the paralells between the hiring of Jim Tressel and Brady Hoke.

In fact, I never really knew what was surrounding Tress until today (always wondered, though).

First, OSU went after Jon Gruden.

That didn't pan out, so we tried to go after the west coast star - Mike Belotti from Oregon. Then it was between Glen Mason and Tressel, who was the favorite by our AD, which seemed like a bad pick in some camps.

It'd seem that Brady got picked out of a similar group - there were two people that looked better (Harbaugh and Miles).

Only time will tell if the similarities end, but I think that Hoke will at least give OSU a better run for their money - even if it is Cooper-esque. I doubt he will turn them into a perennial dynasty like OSU, but I think he'll be able to get them to some top-tier bowl games - something RichRod may of never been able to do.
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My reaction is somewhat similar to that of bassbuckeye07 - not how I remember the order of events.
bassbuckeye07;1856115; said:
I dont think this is the case....if I remember correctly his name barely came up in conjecture but he was in his prime in the NFL at the time..could be wrong. I remember Herbie trying to pimp Stoops and acted like he might be interested. Any way I think Hoke does have very similar parallels in that its not the sexy pick but the right one for the time...
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Closer - here is a contemporary article - focused on the Gruden candidacy. In retrospect it seems he used the interest of Geiger to ensure a better deal from crazy man Davis. (Not a bad idea really).
Gruden, whose salary nearly doubled to $1.2 million a year when a two-year contract option kicked in this week with Oakland, has been the object of hot rumors, mostly on the Internet, concerning the head-coaching job at Ohio State.
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Perhaps he would have been better off not rebuffing Geiger, but, rebuff him he did.
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While Gruden publicly has expressed no problem with his situation in Oakland, his new salary still is believed to be no better than middle-of-the- pack among NFL coaches, and his contract does not include some of the perks that other coaches receive. Further, Gruden is said privately to be concerned about the future direction of the franchise, including the continuing legal fights and the possibility Al Davis might seek to move the team back to Los Angeles.
Such uncertainty has weighed heavily on the Raiders for years.
"Ohio State might be a better job," said an agent who represents many top players and coaches. "I don't know why the Raiders waited until now to adjust his contract."
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As for the order of events, it is best to start on page 3 of the article ...
where meanwhile means at minimum a day prior to the article posting which was Wednesday January 17th, 2001.
Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio State's search continued. Oregon coach Mike Bellotti, who visited the Columbus campus on Monday, withdrew his name from consideration yesterday, and Jim Tressel, the Youngstown State coach and a former Ohio State assistant, was in Columbus for a third meeting with Geiger, a former athletic director at Stanford.
Glen Mason, the University of Minnesota coach, also has been reported among the finalists. Pressure is mounting on Geiger to hire a coach quickly because the recruiting season is slipping past.
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So, you have Belotti on a visit on Monday Jan 15th, Tressel on his third meeting with Geiger on Tuesday 16th during the day, implying that Tressel was always very high up on the list of those in whom Geiger had interest. Well what of Gruden's rebuff of Ohio State? It happened on Tuesday January 16th - in the West Coast night.
Ohio State has been without a coach since John Cooper was fired Jan. 2, the day after a 24-7 defeat to South Carolina in the Outback Bowl. A group of well- heeled business executives who wield influence with Geiger wanted to pursue Gruden with an 8-to-10 year deal, supposedly in the $20 million range.
But no one connected with the university bothered to contact Gruden, the Raiders or LaMonte until last night when Geiger called. Gruden, trying to end the speculation, did not need long to respond.
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Where "last night" was Tuesday night -

So in order you have Tressel and/or Belotti possibly tied and in the sweet spot till Belotti opted out, then - in answer to well-heeled booster pressure perhaps - you see Gruden make his appearance.

MrStickball, it was a great story you laid out, a myth even that you wove - but, the available record does not agree with the parallel you draw. Tressel was never the last option of a flailing AD, he may in truth have been the first to catch Geiger's attention.

(Oh, and as for Mason, he wasn't even in the wheelhouse when Tressel was past his 3rd face-to-face with Geiger).
 
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