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bucksn'boobs
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From an out of state dude who's second time in the entire midwest was when I moved into Smith hall.
Cleveland: Reminded me most of the Northeast, where I'm from.=loved it
Cincinnati: Felt that I was in a Southern city. Everyone looks like they are about to golf, or just returned from golf=loved it
Celina: (where I went to my friend's place for Thanksgiving instead of going
home) straight out of a fucking movie. Rednecks driving shitfaced everywhere.=loved it
Columbus five years: can't remember=loved it
As far as Braylon goes, I was at the draft booing the pick, but I am not a Browns fan. My buddy from Dayton was screaming at the Browns fans that they should be ashamed of themselves which was pretty funny. We were in the hospitality suite section screaming "maybe you can finally win a game in Ohio Braylon", which turned some heads. The draft was incredibly boring other than that.
Cleveland: Reminded me most of the Northeast, where I'm from.=loved it
Cincinnati: Felt that I was in a Southern city. Everyone looks like they are about to golf, or just returned from golf=loved it
Celina: (where I went to my friend's place for Thanksgiving instead of going
home) straight out of a fucking movie. Rednecks driving shitfaced everywhere.=loved it
Columbus five years: can't remember=loved it
As far as Braylon goes, I was at the draft booing the pick, but I am not a Browns fan. My buddy from Dayton was screaming at the Browns fans that they should be ashamed of themselves which was pretty funny. We were in the hospitality suite section screaming "maybe you can finally win a game in Ohio Braylon", which turned some heads. The draft was incredibly boring other than that.
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GoofyBuckeye
Nutis Maximus
Dammit, we've already had this Cincy vs. the rest of Ohio discussion a few times and I usually end up flying off the handle a bit.
I was born and raised in north Dayton then moved to Cincy 4 years ago. I've been around Cincy enough to know what people think of OSU and it's not nearly as bad as alot of you like to make it. It's so obvious some of you have some longtime personal hatred for Cincy and I would bet you can't even remember why it all started. The media here hardly ever says a bad thing about OSU. The only time I ever hear anything bad is when UC and OSU play head to head and that's no different than if Akron played OSU. The commentary mainly has to do with the arrogance of some of OSU's fans and I'm not gonna disagree with that. When your local college football team gets handed their asses all the time and watches year after year of success by the big brother 90 minutes away, it's gonna cause some eruptions here and there from OSU fans clashing with UC fans. It's no different than the reason why alot of us hate Dallas..because there more succesful than our pro team is and their fans get arrogant about it.
Also, Miami is right up the road and there's alot of Miami fans here which adds to the whole mentality with OSU.
The whole Bengal/Brown rivalry has ZERO to do with the OSU relationship with fans of Cincy. Cincy just happens to have 2 very good basketball teams (and this is a basketball town) who are usually better than Ohio State so they see some success there against the big boys in Columbus. They take that over to football with UC and equate that to not needing any other school to root for other than the Cincinnati football Bearcats. So OSU doesn't get front page news on the Sports page or top billing on the talk shows. If you equate that to people hating on OSU then god be with you.
and as far as the baloney about the tri-state stuff and...whatever...every big border city has the exact same media structure as Cincy does...Chicago, NYC, Philly, DC, St. Paul/Minneapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City....the list is pretty long, folks. Alot of cities branch out into the next state.
I'm a Reds, Browns, Buckeyes, and Flyers fan...that happens when your from Dayton which is by far the most diverse sports city in Ohio. No where else is there a high volume of Browns and Bengals fans...Buckeye, Bearcat, Redhawk, Musketeer, Flyer, and Raider fans in b-ball, and Buckeye, Bearcat, and Redhawk fans in football.
Oh, if you want to fart in the general direction of a city that truly does have anti-Ohio flavor in it's media, look no further than Toledo. I lived there for a year and it's mostly Detroit Tigers, 50/50 on OSU and Michigan, and a mix of Browns and Lions and it's entirely Red Wing fans.
I was born and raised in north Dayton then moved to Cincy 4 years ago. I've been around Cincy enough to know what people think of OSU and it's not nearly as bad as alot of you like to make it. It's so obvious some of you have some longtime personal hatred for Cincy and I would bet you can't even remember why it all started. The media here hardly ever says a bad thing about OSU. The only time I ever hear anything bad is when UC and OSU play head to head and that's no different than if Akron played OSU. The commentary mainly has to do with the arrogance of some of OSU's fans and I'm not gonna disagree with that. When your local college football team gets handed their asses all the time and watches year after year of success by the big brother 90 minutes away, it's gonna cause some eruptions here and there from OSU fans clashing with UC fans. It's no different than the reason why alot of us hate Dallas..because there more succesful than our pro team is and their fans get arrogant about it.
Also, Miami is right up the road and there's alot of Miami fans here which adds to the whole mentality with OSU.
The whole Bengal/Brown rivalry has ZERO to do with the OSU relationship with fans of Cincy. Cincy just happens to have 2 very good basketball teams (and this is a basketball town) who are usually better than Ohio State so they see some success there against the big boys in Columbus. They take that over to football with UC and equate that to not needing any other school to root for other than the Cincinnati football Bearcats. So OSU doesn't get front page news on the Sports page or top billing on the talk shows. If you equate that to people hating on OSU then god be with you.
and as far as the baloney about the tri-state stuff and...whatever...every big border city has the exact same media structure as Cincy does...Chicago, NYC, Philly, DC, St. Paul/Minneapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City....the list is pretty long, folks. Alot of cities branch out into the next state.
I'm a Reds, Browns, Buckeyes, and Flyers fan...that happens when your from Dayton which is by far the most diverse sports city in Ohio. No where else is there a high volume of Browns and Bengals fans...Buckeye, Bearcat, Redhawk, Musketeer, Flyer, and Raider fans in b-ball, and Buckeye, Bearcat, and Redhawk fans in football.
Oh, if you want to fart in the general direction of a city that truly does have anti-Ohio flavor in it's media, look no further than Toledo. I lived there for a year and it's mostly Detroit Tigers, 50/50 on OSU and Michigan, and a mix of Browns and Lions and it's entirely Red Wing fans.
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LloydSev
DreamWeaver
The Toledo Blade is not an accurate representation of Ohio State sentiment in the area..
But seriously, NW Ohio is extremely evenly split between Ohio State and Michigan, with some ND lovers thrown in.
But hey, as I tell my family every year as they descend to my home in NW Ohio from their homes in Michigan.. there's a reason why Michigan backed down from war when they wanted Toledo.. it's because your pansy ass state touches old French territory..
It rubbed off.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
Braylon Edwards (Official Thread)
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/12381120.htm
Posted on Sun, Aug. 14, 2005
McManamon on the Browns
Edwards not short on confidence
First-round draft pick enjoys celebrity before his full NFL experience begins
By Patrick McManamon
CLEVELAND - Braylon Edwards seems to bring a whole new something to the Cleveland Browns.
Exactly what that something is might be difficult to pin down.
Certainly the Browns hope Edwards produces a lot of somethings on the field. Time will tell on that front; the guy has yet to even practice in the NFL. But right now, off the field Edwards is certainly comfortable in his own persona.
This past week when he (finally) signed his contract, he introduced his family and agent at his news conference as ``Team B.'' (Apparently ``Team E'' just didn't have the right ring.)
The team's first-round draft choice drives a Bentley Continental GT Coupe that he bought before the draft for $140,000. He said he bought the car with money he made off card deals.
``It's all about being smart,'' Edwards said (according to The Detroit News).
He wore six-carat diamond-encrusted earrings to a pre-draft media gathering, and he hired a marketing manager -- before the draft. The Detroit Free Press wrote that Edwards discussed choosing between Callaway and Titleist for the clubs he'd need in charity golf tournaments, and said his management team had been hired ``to make me money.''
This is a player not short on confidence.
Getting back into the swing of things now that he's signed, he said, would require learning but would not be difficult because ``football is football'' and the Browns had not installed a new offense while he was gone.
Mind you, Edwards does seem to care for the team and he's willing to work to succeed -- facts folks at Michigan will attest to.
He also seems to fully enjoy his celebrity, the celebrity that goes with being an athlete of the zeros... er... '00s.
He's the new breed, the kind of guy who will appear at every ESPY Awards show, check his rating on Madden Football and do milk, tennis shoe and pet store commercials (if he can).
Edwards' celebrity almost seems meticulously planned -- as if he's been waiting for this moment his entire life (which might be true -- Edwards has said he knew at age 5 that he would play in the NFL).
He said at a pre-draft media gathering that he didn't plan to turn down any marketing opportunities, though he might wait a year to acclimate himself. Presumably ``Team B'' will investigate the options.
Edwards held up signing his contract for one day, balking because the Browns had a ``personal services'' clause in his deal that allowed the Browns the right of first refusal on some of his marketing deals.
Way back in April, Edwards opined that his advisers had told him he could be ``huge'' when it came to marketing himself.
``Speaking well, and how I present myself... that goes a long way,'' Edwards said (again in The Detroit News). ``Two, I'm handsome. I'm handsome, it's safe to say.''
He also said a person had to have a good MO, couldn't have felonies or a visit to AA ``on your rap sheet.''
``My marketer tells me I can be the biggest thing since sliced bread,'' he said. ``But the main thing about that is not getting caught up in it.''
Yep, you'd sure hate to get caught up in it.
Brownies . . .
• Wide receiver Andre Davis has been practicing like a guy who thinks he's going to get traded. The Browns dismissed pre-camp rumors that Davis was on the block, but coach Romeo Crennel admitted those rumors can get to a player. Davis seems to have too much going for him to let trade rumors bother him.
• The offensive line situation looks much improved over a year ago, but one injury could be a domino that leads to many problems. The Browns have to find a way to keep the starting five healthy.
• Wednesday someone asked Crennel about undrafted free-agent receiver Lance Moore. Later, Crennel was asked where Edwards would start on the depth chart. ``We mentioned Lance Moore,'' Crennel said. ``He'll be somewhere below Lance.''
• When New England Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour was absent from the first few days of Patriots camp, he ran the conditioning test of several other teams to try to stay in shape. Seymour said the Browns had the hardest one. It requires players to run two 300-yard shuttles in a set time. Seymour's claim brought a smile to Crennel's face.
• Inside linebacker Andra Davis is having an excellent camp. He assessed the switch to the 3-4 this way: ``It gives us the ability to be athletes. We don't have to just run in one gap and stay in one gap. Us linebackers, we can just run to the ball.''
• The practice at the stadium really seemed to energize backup quarterback Charlie Frye. He had some excellent throws during practice the past week and had a noticeable spring in his step. Frye has gotten a better understanding of the offense. His next step will be facing defenses going full speed in games.
• Jeff Faine is tired of hearing that he is undersized. ``There are a lot of centers in this league that play at my weight,'' he said. ``A lot of Pro Bowl centers. Kevin Mawae plays at 288. The weight issue I don't think is the issue this year at all. I think it was always my technique and we've worked on that (and) refined it.''
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/12381120.htm
Posted on Sun, Aug. 14, 2005
McManamon on the Browns
Edwards not short on confidence
First-round draft pick enjoys celebrity before his full NFL experience begins
By Patrick McManamon
CLEVELAND - Braylon Edwards seems to bring a whole new something to the Cleveland Browns.
Exactly what that something is might be difficult to pin down.
Certainly the Browns hope Edwards produces a lot of somethings on the field. Time will tell on that front; the guy has yet to even practice in the NFL. But right now, off the field Edwards is certainly comfortable in his own persona.
This past week when he (finally) signed his contract, he introduced his family and agent at his news conference as ``Team B.'' (Apparently ``Team E'' just didn't have the right ring.)
The team's first-round draft choice drives a Bentley Continental GT Coupe that he bought before the draft for $140,000. He said he bought the car with money he made off card deals.
``It's all about being smart,'' Edwards said (according to The Detroit News).
He wore six-carat diamond-encrusted earrings to a pre-draft media gathering, and he hired a marketing manager -- before the draft. The Detroit Free Press wrote that Edwards discussed choosing between Callaway and Titleist for the clubs he'd need in charity golf tournaments, and said his management team had been hired ``to make me money.''
This is a player not short on confidence.
Getting back into the swing of things now that he's signed, he said, would require learning but would not be difficult because ``football is football'' and the Browns had not installed a new offense while he was gone.
Mind you, Edwards does seem to care for the team and he's willing to work to succeed -- facts folks at Michigan will attest to.
He also seems to fully enjoy his celebrity, the celebrity that goes with being an athlete of the zeros... er... '00s.
He's the new breed, the kind of guy who will appear at every ESPY Awards show, check his rating on Madden Football and do milk, tennis shoe and pet store commercials (if he can).
Edwards' celebrity almost seems meticulously planned -- as if he's been waiting for this moment his entire life (which might be true -- Edwards has said he knew at age 5 that he would play in the NFL).
He said at a pre-draft media gathering that he didn't plan to turn down any marketing opportunities, though he might wait a year to acclimate himself. Presumably ``Team B'' will investigate the options.
Edwards held up signing his contract for one day, balking because the Browns had a ``personal services'' clause in his deal that allowed the Browns the right of first refusal on some of his marketing deals.
Way back in April, Edwards opined that his advisers had told him he could be ``huge'' when it came to marketing himself.
``Speaking well, and how I present myself... that goes a long way,'' Edwards said (again in The Detroit News). ``Two, I'm handsome. I'm handsome, it's safe to say.''
He also said a person had to have a good MO, couldn't have felonies or a visit to AA ``on your rap sheet.''
``My marketer tells me I can be the biggest thing since sliced bread,'' he said. ``But the main thing about that is not getting caught up in it.''
Yep, you'd sure hate to get caught up in it.
Brownies . . .
• Wide receiver Andre Davis has been practicing like a guy who thinks he's going to get traded. The Browns dismissed pre-camp rumors that Davis was on the block, but coach Romeo Crennel admitted those rumors can get to a player. Davis seems to have too much going for him to let trade rumors bother him.
• The offensive line situation looks much improved over a year ago, but one injury could be a domino that leads to many problems. The Browns have to find a way to keep the starting five healthy.
• Wednesday someone asked Crennel about undrafted free-agent receiver Lance Moore. Later, Crennel was asked where Edwards would start on the depth chart. ``We mentioned Lance Moore,'' Crennel said. ``He'll be somewhere below Lance.''
• When New England Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour was absent from the first few days of Patriots camp, he ran the conditioning test of several other teams to try to stay in shape. Seymour said the Browns had the hardest one. It requires players to run two 300-yard shuttles in a set time. Seymour's claim brought a smile to Crennel's face.
• Inside linebacker Andra Davis is having an excellent camp. He assessed the switch to the 3-4 this way: ``It gives us the ability to be athletes. We don't have to just run in one gap and stay in one gap. Us linebackers, we can just run to the ball.''
• The practice at the stadium really seemed to energize backup quarterback Charlie Frye. He had some excellent throws during practice the past week and had a noticeable spring in his step. Frye has gotten a better understanding of the offense. His next step will be facing defenses going full speed in games.
• Jeff Faine is tired of hearing that he is undersized. ``There are a lot of centers in this league that play at my weight,'' he said. ``A lot of Pro Bowl centers. Kevin Mawae plays at 288. The weight issue I don't think is the issue this year at all. I think it was always my technique and we've worked on that (and) refined it.''
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
Braylon Edwards (Official Thread)
Breaking News:
Braylon Edwards, the first round pick of the Cleveland Browns, underwent emergency surgery in the Cleveland Clinic this morning because of a staph infection.
No links, just according to the Tailgate show, they dont know how serious this injury is, but he did undergo emergency surgery.
Get Well Braylon...
Breaking News:
Braylon Edwards, the first round pick of the Cleveland Browns, underwent emergency surgery in the Cleveland Clinic this morning because of a staph infection.
No links, just according to the Tailgate show, they dont know how serious this injury is, but he did undergo emergency surgery.
Get Well Braylon...
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OilerBuck
Sweet Crude
What is it with wide receivers and this "entitlement" attitude? The kids got some talent and he's confident...but these receivers need to let their game talk. Be a team player and work your butt off and your time will come. If he continues to alienate his quarterback and focus on his own production, he will never live up to his full potential.
He's quickly becoming the human soundbyte; falling into the mold of Keyshawn Johnson, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Etc. I'd rather see some more Marvin Harrison, Deion Branch, Santana Moss, Hines Ward types. Keep your mouth shut and pick people apart.
Also, I realize this is unimportant...but Edwards' average on the year is 17.3 ypc. I think that was a miscalc on the part of the paper.
He's quickly becoming the human soundbyte; falling into the mold of Keyshawn Johnson, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Etc. I'd rather see some more Marvin Harrison, Deion Branch, Santana Moss, Hines Ward types. Keep your mouth shut and pick people apart.
Also, I realize this is unimportant...but Edwards' average on the year is 17.3 ypc. I think that was a miscalc on the part of the paper.
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Fungo Squiggly
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I really don't see anything too outlandish in this article. While he is saying that he wants the ball, he isn't calling out Dilfer or the coaching staff.
Just from his quotes, it is hard to know if he is frustrated, angry, or just answering the questions posed to him. I read it as he was just answering the questions a reporter asked, not as him whining to the media. I don't know if there is any video of him making these statements, but perhaps that would be a little more indicative of his tone.
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
You have to love reporters. Here's the version from the Beacon Journal.
Edwards had a chance to give the Browns a 14-0 lead when he correctly read safety Troy Polamalu's coverage on a slant. Edwards broke the play upfield, Dilfer saw it but he overthrew him.
``He (Dilfer) just missed me,'' Edwards said. ``Bottom line. He missed me.''
Edwards continued.
``That's how it works,'' he said. ``Sometimes receivers drop passes, sometimes quarterbacks miss passes, sometimes running backs miss holes. That's part of the game.''
Had he caught the ball?
``I don't think there was anything but green,'' Edwards said. Then he sighed and said: ``It's like that sometimes.''
Edwards had a chance to give the Browns a 14-0 lead when he correctly read safety Troy Polamalu's coverage on a slant. Edwards broke the play upfield, Dilfer saw it but he overthrew him.
``He (Dilfer) just missed me,'' Edwards said. ``Bottom line. He missed me.''
Edwards continued.
``That's how it works,'' he said. ``Sometimes receivers drop passes, sometimes quarterbacks miss passes, sometimes running backs miss holes. That's part of the game.''
Had he caught the ball?
``I don't think there was anything but green,'' Edwards said. Then he sighed and said: ``It's like that sometimes.''
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
I have watched the majority of the Brown's games this year and Edwards does not get a lot of balls thrown in his direction. Now wether the reason is Edwards' route running or simply not being open, I would have to look at the film. But I can say that he needs to see the field more. Northcutt has been splitting time with Edwards so far and Northcutt dropped quite a few passes on Sunday night that should have been caught.
I don't think he is out of line saying he would like more chances to make plays, he didn't call anyone out really.
I don't think he is out of line saying he would like more chances to make plays, he didn't call anyone out really.
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