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Browns dump Garcia

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Misanthrope said:
My guess is they re-sign Kelly Holcomb and use that #3 pick on Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers.
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Thoughts of Kelly Holcomb as our starting QB again haunt me.
On top of that, I would make a better QB than that McCown kid, or whatever his name is.
I have never, in my life, seen a worse QB play professional football, rookie or not.
I would have to say they must draft a QB now.
FWIW, it looks as though San Diego is going to tag Drew Brees this week,
he would have been a great pickup.
 
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Brees may still be available, just not as a free agent. I'm sure SD is entertaining trade offers, but what do the Browns have to offer them?

I think Holcomb and one of the rookies is probably your best option. Until Cleveland puts together an offensive line, any QB they put out there is going to take some lumps.
 
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I don't think there is any way we can get Brees since Marty wants to keep him. We might be able trade for Rivers though if we want him. Something like a future 1st round pick, or two 2nd rounders. Still I don't think any QB will do jack in Cleveland until they fix the OL. Just pickup a journeyman QB for now, is Don Strock available?
 
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Xevious said:
Still I don't think any QB will do jack in Cleveland until they fix the OL.
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That is the problem, they almost have to spend some draft picks fixing the shitty O-Line, but now they have to worry about a QB too.. Also, I don't know a ton on the kids in the draft this year, but none of them stands out all that much to me... Just a poor time for this in my opinion.

I would of dealt with it for another year and released/traded him after a year of another crappy O-Line, and hope what ever moves we make this year gel for next (I am assuming they draft an OL or two). That way whatever QB they decide on being our future QB doesn't get murdered behind another swiss cheese OL...
 
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LloydSev said:
You guys are worrying about the effect... my thought is this, what is the cause? My guess is that it has something to do with his not getting along with players and coaches here.
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Well.... that may be a good point...

And... I didn't think the guy was all that good anyway...

Gay references aside, might it be possible that T.O. knew what the heck he was talking about?

Anyway.. .he didn't like the Browns "System" (Such as it was)... so... I doubt with Carthon he's going to like the new system. I doubt he wanted to be in Cleveland, so its just best to let him go and do his thing, my guess is whatever that is, it won't amount to a whole lot.

Anyway, I don't really want to bad mouth the guy, but, it is what it is. Anyway, they need an OL, but those will be later picks (assuming they keep the selections they have) and Rolle is a reach at 3... so the more I think about it, the more Aaron Rodgers looks like the guy.

I don't really like it... but sometimes that's how it goes.
 
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all you have to do is look at the model that was the patriots and ravens development.

they had strong defenses and ball control offenses centered around the ground game. neither team had an elite franchise qb leading them. before anyone starts spouting off about brady, he was a 6th round draft pick and was never thought to be their franchise qb of the future.

cleveland will probably sign a modestly priced FA that cna play well within a system (mcmahon from detroit?). I would look for them to trade down or draft defense in the 1st round.
 
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Lets not forget that the browns were one of the worst coached teams I've ever seen over the past few years. I'm not saying Garcia was all that great, and I'm glad he's gone, but those coaches were horrible. Not just davis, but most of the guys all the way down the line. They never put their players in positions to succeed, they were unorganized, and they had horrible communication w/ the players. Robiskie isn't that great of a coach either, but I guess it's nice to see him stay in town since his kid is gonna be in columbus now.

That being said, Holcomb will do just fine for the browns next season. Carthon is going to be pounding the running game most of next season, so it won't be asking that much of holcomb to manage the game. We've got some degree of talent at FB, TB. The line just needs a major attitude adjustment and some luck with injuries.

In my opinion, this is a great great move, that attempts to undo one of the worst free-agent signings I've ever seen. (once again, thanks to an IDIOT coach)

This new coaching staff is going to have to spend alot of energy fixing things the IDIOT who came before them broke.
 
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Yes, the Browns were the worst coached team in the NFL the few seasons (if not the worst, dang close). But, when I was thinking about how they might want to use that big #3 pick, I couldn't stop thinking of potential areas of improvement. Being a fan, it is painful to accept the amount of help they need EVERYWHERE.

Though I can't stand "the U" with a passion...I wouldn't mind them picking up Rolle. I don't want to waste the pick on Rodgers or Smith. They should worry about the line and the ground on O. They need so much help on D, I'd rather spend the pick there. If the linebacking crew were weaker, I'd say take D.Johnson, but I think the secondary gets picked on at the will of the other team. D. McCutcheon has started at corner for the Browns for WAY too long.
 
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