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Cleveland Browns 1st and 2nd Rounds Draft Picks 2007-2015

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by LordJeffBuck, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    It's Draft Day, so here's a little something to cheer up Browns fans: A review of all of the Browns' first- and second-round draft picks from 2007 to 2015. I chose this period because the core of any current NFL team should come from its players with three to nine years experience (2007 to 2013 drafts), with the younger players (2014 and 2015 drafts) developing behind them.

    The Browns made an incredible 24 selections in the first two rounds (12 first, 12 second) over the nine-year period, and fully half of them have been utter and complete busts. Only eight of those draftees are still with the team, five of whom have arrived in the past two drafts.

    Draft ChoiceNFL DraftRoundPick #GradeComments
    OT Joe Thomas (Wisconsin)200713A+First ballot Hall of Famer; one of the top 5 Browns players of all time
    QB Brady Quinn (Notre Dame)2007122F3-9 record as a starter, 66.8 passer efficiency rating; lasted only 3 years in CLE
    DB Eric Wright (UNLV)2007253CA decent player who started 55 games in 4 years in CLE; recorded 9 interceptions
    OC Alex Mack (California)2009121A-A borderline great player who made the Pro Bowl 3 times in 7 seasons in CLE
    WR Brian Robiskie (Ohio State)2009236FThe Browns finally draft a Buckeye, and he's a colossal bust: 39 recs, 441 yds, 3 TDs in 3 seasons in CLE
    WR Mohamed Massaquoi (Georgia)2009250DConcussions shortened his career, but he wasn't all that great when healthy; 118 recs, 1745 yds, 7 TDs, in 4 years in CLE
    LB David Veikune (Hawaii)2009252FA monumental bust even by Browns' standards: he had no tackles during his lone season in CLE
    CB Joe Haden (Florida)201017B+Not the lock-down corner that most Browns fans imagine, but still a solid selection; 19 INTs in 7 seasons in CLE
    DB T.J. Ward (Oregon)2010238BA decent player; undersized and immature; after 4 years in CLE (5 INTs), seems to have found a home in DEN
    RB Montario Hardesty (Tennessee)2010259FA ridiculous pick; entered the NFL as damaged goods, basically never played: 23 games, 537 yds, TD in 4 years in CLE
    DT Phil Taylor (Baylor)2011121DFat and out-of-shape; character issues in college; barely an impact in 4 seasons in CLE: 109 tackles, 7 sacks
    DE Jabaal Sheard (Pittsburgh)2011237B-Was never going to be the elite edge rusher that Browns hoped for, but a solid 2nd round pick; 23 sacks in 4 years in CLE
    WR Greg Little (North Carolina)2011259DCollege RB with character issues and stone hands; much worse than his stats: 155 rec, 1821 yds, 8 TDs in 3 years in CLE
    RB Trent Richardson (Alabama)201213FSlow, overweight, no vision, no desire; stats very misleading: 1055 yds (62.1 ypg, 3.5 ypc), 11 TDs in 17 games in CLE
    QB Brandon Weeden (Oklahoma State)2012122FAll the physical tools, but absolutely no feel for the position; 5-15 record, 71.8 passer efficiency in 2 years in CLE
    OL Mitchell Schwartz (California)2012237BA solid offensive lineman with a definite upward trajectory; unfortunately left in free agency before 2016 season
    WR Josh Gordon (Baylor)20122supINCIn 2013, had 3rd best receiving season in NFL history (117.6 ypg), but played only 5 games since due to drug suspensions
    LB Barkevious Mingo (Louisiana State)201316FNice, well-spoken, possible future in broadcasting ... maybe as soon as this year; 102 tackles, 7 sacks in 3 seasons in CLE
    DB Justin Gilbert (Oklahoma State)201418FCharacter, attitude, motor, desire issues galore, just a tremendous slouch; 33 tackles, one INT in 23 games in CLE
    QB Johnny Manziel (Texas A+M)2014122FNot drafted to be a starting QB, drafted to be a circus clown show; in that light, maybe he was an A+ selection
    OL Joel Bitonio (Nevada)2014235B-Starting LG benefited from playing between Pro Bowlers Joe Thomas and Alex Mack; possible mainstay on Browns' OL
    DT Danny Shelton (Washington)2015112INCHas done very little thru 2 seasons (95 tackles, 1.5 sacks) except jumping on the pile; looks good in a skirt, though
    OL Cameron Erving (Florida State)2015119FWeak and un-athletic; missed many assignments; this mega-bust was dumped for a 5th rounder after just 2 years
    LB Nate Orchard (Utah)2015251INCAfter a decent rookie campaign (36 tackles, 3 sacks, INT, FF); played only 3 games in 2016 due to injury
    WR Corey Coleman (Baylor)2016115INCBrowns fell in love with his speed, ignored his bad hands, injury history, homesickness. 33 rec, 413 yds, 3 TD as rookie
    DE Emmanuel Ogbah (Oklahoma State)2016232INCShowed flashes, with 53 tackles, 6 sacks, 3 batted passes in 2016. Is he a mainstay or a role player?
    DE Myles Garrett (Texas A+M)201711INCConsensus #1 player in the draft. Will likely get run over by an RTA bus while chasing hookers down West 65th Street
    ATH Jabroni Peppers (scUM)2017125FThis is an "F" waiting to happen, so why wait?
    TE David Njoku (Miami)2017129INCYoung, athletic, lack of production - probably overdrafted
    QB Deshone Kizer (Notre Dame)2017252INCPossible starter as a rookie

    If we assign numbers to the letter grades (A+ = 4.33; A = 4.00; A- = 3.67, etc), then the Browns' twenty-four first- and second-round draft picks from 2007 to 2015 received 27.67 total points (INCs not rated), for an average grade of 1.38 (which translates to a D+). It's no wonder that the Browns have consistently been the worst franchise in the NFL.
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2017
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  2. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    Now here's a look at who the Browns could've taken instead of the twelve busts that they actually did take. I didn't re-draft every Browns selection in order to optimize every pick (even the best teams have plenty of "B" and "C" players on their rosters). I also didn't scour the entire draft to see what long shots and sleeper prospects hit in the later rounds (for example, Antonio Brown, 6th round 2010; Russell Wilson, 3rd round 2012). I simply went with players who were selected near (15 picks or less) the Browns' busts - in other words, players that generally received grades similar to the Browns' selections:

    Draft ChoiceNFL DraftRoundPick #Comments
    QB Brady Quinn (Notre Dame)2007122Led the team to three victories in three seasons. Hurray!
    OT Joe Staley (Central Michigan)2007126Not a sexy pick, but this 2-time Pro Bowler (130 career starts) would've been Joe Thomas's bookend for past 9 seasons
    WR Brian Robiskie (Ohio State)200923639 receptions for 441 yards and 3 TDs would be 3 good games ... but that was Robo's 3-year output
    LB Rey Maualuga (Southern Cal)2009238Not a superstar, but he has spent 7 solid seasons in Cincy; 100 career starts, averaging 80 tackles per year
    WR Mohamed Massaquoi (Georgia)2009250Concussions shortened an otherwise uneventful career
    OG Andy Levitre (Oregon State)2009251A good offensive lineman who has started every game (112) during his 7-year NFL career
    LB David Veikune (Hawaii)2009252The 100-megaton bust: zero tackles in 10 games in brown and orange
    RB LeSean McCoy (Pittsburgh)2009253One of the best RBs in the NFL, averaging 1,466 total yards and 8 total TDs for his 7-year career
    RB Montario Hardesty (Tennessee)2010259You drafts a guy with a bum knee, you gets a guy with a bum knee....
    WR Golden Tate (Notre Dame)2010260Not a great player, but a very capable #2 receiver; averaging 59 receptions, 723 yards, 4 TDs for his career
    DT Phil Taylor (Baylor)2011121Fat, lazy, and a Cleveland Brown is no way to go through life....
    DL Cameron Heyward (Ohio State)2011131After a slow start, is now a stalwart on Steelers' defense; averaging 54 tackles, 7+ sacks over past 2 seasons
    WR Greg Little (North Carolina)2011259Good size + good speed + loud mouth + stone hands = grade D wide receiver
    WR Randall Cobb (Kentucky)2011264Has developed into a big time WR in Green Bay; averaging 85 receptions, 1058 yards, 9 TDs over past 2 seasons
    RB Trent Richardson (Alabama)201213Considering where he was taken, and the trade up to get him, might be the biggest bust of all
    LB Luke Kuechly (Boston College)201219Probably the best LB in the NFL; averaging 148 tackles, 3 INTs during 4-year career
    QB Brandon Weeden (Oklahoma State)2012122The living definition of a career journeyman back-up QB; 5th round value taken #22 overall
    LB Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)2012126Pass rush specialist has 30 sacks in 4 seasons, 12 last season alone
    LB Barkevious Mingo (Louisiana State)201316The Browns get somewhat of a pass here because the available talent pool was pretty lousy
    OL D.J. Fluker (Alabama)2013111An above average road grader lineman who can play guard or right tackle; the best of a bad lot
    CB Justin Gilbert (Oklahoma State)201418The Browns passed on two legitimate superstars to draft this clown
    WR Odell Beckham, Jr. (Louisiana State)2014112Looks like a future Hall of Famer; averaging 93 receptions, 1378 yards, 12.5 TDs in his first 2 seasons
    DT Aaron Donald (Pittsburgh)2014113If you wanted to go defense rather than Beckham, then Donald (averaging 59 tackles, 10 sacks) was the guy
    QB Johnny Manziel (Texas A+M)2014122The Browns passed on franchise QBs Teddy Bridgewater (#32) and Derek Carr (#36) to draft Johnny Trainwreck
    CB Bradley Roby (Ohio State)2014131This budding star would've filled a huge need at CB; Bridgewater or Carr also would've made lots of sense here
    OL Cameron Erving (Florida State)2015119A nice guy who simply cannot play the game at the NFL level
    DB Landon Collins (Alabama)2015233Future perennial All Pro

    The reason that I don't have the Browns taking a quarterback anywhere in this nine-year re-draft? Because in an ideal world, the Browns would have taken Ben Roethlisberger in the 2004 NFL Draft instead of Kellen Winslow, Jr.

    But the Browns don't live in an ideal world.

    They don't even live in a half-way decent one.
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2017
  3. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    David Veikune might have been the worst pick in NFL history, because unlike other high profile busts, he really had no high profile.
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  4. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    David Veikune was so bad that I'd actually forgotten the Browns had drafted him. His tenure in Cleveland was so short and so unproductive that it was like he didn't even exist. At least some of the other busts were entertaining in their way - Greg Little dropping passes, Brandon Weeden throwing interceptions underhanded, Trent Richardson running into the backs of his offensive linemen, etc.
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  5. Mike80

    Mike80 Kevin Warren is a fuckwit

  6. ArmyVet83

    ArmyVet83 Prepare yourselves. For now, I summon...the end!

    I'm hoping the Browns FO don't try and outsmart themselves (like other regimes have done in the past) this weekend. Take the BPA and build. Based on the trade down to #8 and what they received, I am cautiously optimistic that this is a move that they are going in the right direction to build through the draft. If they do something stupid, I will on the BP to vent soon after.
  7. CFPBuckeye

    CFPBuckeye Turned down a Harbaugh sleepover '17 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Another well researched, totally depressing Browns thread. Like @ArmyVet83, I am cautiously optimistic about this draft. I don't know if I have a reason to be optimistic or if I just WANT to be optimistic. I just feel differently about this draft than years past.
  8. ArmyVet83

    ArmyVet83 Prepare yourselves. For now, I summon...the end!

    I'm not afraid to admit that I am jaded when it comes to the Browns. I want to be optimistic but I (we) have been burnt before.
  9. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Since they traded down, honestly I think they should just ditch QB this year period... and I don't know how you can do analytics on it, (but the probably can) but personally I think they should be identifying guys that have the physical skill set to play a particular position (that's not code for not drafting Bosa, he can play End in 3-4, hes a beast), research the guys to make sure they have the history of work ethic, and interview them to make sure they have high football IQ's (weight that in some positions more than others). And provided they make no trades, they should be targeting guys they think could be starters THIS year with their first 6 picks. Not, "oh look, this kid has these 2 skill sets but not this other one, and I can fix him" guys. Then be happy if they have 4 starters out of the 6. (Now, I get that only half the guys in the first round were starters last year, but, most teams don't have ummm... so many opportunities) And 4th round picks get into crapshoot mode, but, they're the 1st 2 picks of the round... so, yeah.

    Incidentally, back to the Busts/INC's, I'll be interested to see what Shelton can do when coached by Ray Horton, Best I saw Shelton was when they Browns just put 4 down lineman on the field and attacked. I'd like to see him at End a bit more, but a scheme change should benefit everyone. (honestly, I'm not saying starter or anything but, I actually think Mingo will contribute this year in some way shape or form. But about half his stats were from '13 so Horton knows him, and I'm pretty sure they didn't draft him in the first round so he could cover Tight Ends... thanks Mike Pettine!)
  10. NFBuck

    NFBuck Total Coverage.

    :slappy: That's all I got...and all the clowns are good for.
  11. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    heh, I'm pretty sure this is the last thing that'd cheer me up
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  12. LostLassie

    LostLassie Am I Allowed To Say That? '17 BPCFFB II Champ

    Seeing as how the draft's in Chicago, might as well post something equally cheerful to that city:

  13. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck Kevin Warren is an ass

    Thanks for posting that and making me cry:wink:
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