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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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I would love to see Lovie...but I doubt they'll go that way. Owners are always looking for that "diamond in the rough" asssistant or college guy these days...I imagine Haslam will be no different.
 
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NFBuck;2283695; said:
Why would anyone want Lovie? Have you seen his teams the past few years?
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I have seen his teams - playing good 4-3 defense and contending for playoff spots. I'd like to see what he could do without Jay Cutler strapped to his back and with a feature RB who actually gets in the end zone. Hell, he got Rex Grossman to a Super Bowl.

Seems to me like he beats the hell out of the alternatives at this point.
 
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Well, one of the knocks I had with Lerner about 5 years ago was he tried to get Pioli as GM and was turned down. Then Lerner hired Mangini as coach and Mangini had a say in the hiring of Kokinis as GM. Besides being ass backwards, that kinda indicated to me that Lerner had no clue nor a plan for the franchise.

I am not saying that Haslam does not have a clue nor a plan, just saying that hiring a coach then a GM doesn't sit well with me. Especially having Banner in the mix.....

Keith Britton ‏@KeithBritton86 Haslam said coach first, then GM in search
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buckiprof said:
Well, one of the knocks I had with Lerner about 5 years ago was he tried to get Pioli as GM and was turned down. Then Lerner hired Mangini as coach and Mangini had a say in the hiring of Kokinis as GM. Besides being ass backwards, that kinda indicated to me that Lerner had no clue nor a plan for the franchise.

I am not saying that Haslam does not have a clue nor a plan, just saying that hiring a coach then a GM doesn't sit well with me. Especially having Banner in the mix.....
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That doesn't bother me too much because I think under Banner the coach is going to determine the 53 man roster. I really don't know how much input the GM is going to have in making personnel decisions under this new regime.
 
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LitlBuck;2283710; said:
Well, I sure hope he shows me more next season because right now I do not think that he was worthy of a 3rd pick and after watching Morris from the Redskins it makes me want to question Heckert. Not saying that I wasn't in favor of the selection when they made it but I thought he would have given more. Broken ribs can slow a man down.
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I have lost the little bit of respect I have for your opinions with this statement. I know you qualified and it what not but come on. Trent showed me a lot this year, led the team in receptions, faced a stacked box with young, inexperienced receivers, and a 29 year old rookie QB. Not to mention some pretty shitty guards and a rookie RT(who was a great pick but he was still a rookie.) The guy played with three broken ribs he was every bit that 3rd pick and I think he will more than prove it to you and everyone else next year. (end rant)
 
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The reasoning behind coach first, GM second is that Banner is planning on having a decent bit of control in the front office or he is looking at a coach like Chip Kelly or Gruden thats going to want a lot of say in the front office moves. Now if Gruden really is interested in coaching again, you throw a stack of money at him, so much he can't say no. Otherwise, I like Roman from the 49ers, and I would at least give Chip Kelly a chance to see if he could develop any sort offense that would actually work in the NFL.


BTW if Banner gets power hungry he could cost a few solid GM or coach options. I'm starting to get worried that he is going to fuck this all up.
 
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Bucks21 said:
I have lost the little bit of respect I have for your opinions with this statement. I know you qualified and it what not but come on. Trent showed me a lot this year, led the team in receptions, faced a stacked box with young, inexperienced receivers, and a 29 year old rookie QB. Not to mention some pretty shitty guards and a rookie RT(who was a great pick but he was still a rookie.) The guy played with three broken ribs he was every bit that 3rd pick and I think he will more than prove it to you and everyone else next year. (end rant)
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Little led the team in receptions that that is not a opinion.
 
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Bucks21;2283718; said:
and I would at least give Chip Kelly a chance to see if he could develop any sort offense that would actually work in the NFL..
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Maybe on a team that has the ability to pull in a quality coach after that failure occurs. But not this team. Can't take a gamble on a man that has zero NFL experience and even less experience running a system that works at the highest levels of play.
 
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