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Cleveland Indians Thread of Malaise (2014 Season)

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Bucklion said:
If he gets 18 wins for this fucking clown show scoring no runs and kicking it all over the infield, they should give him the Cy Young, MVP, keys to a 1958 Plymouth Fury, and a hotel room with the actress of his choice for a weekend.
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They should give that to him if he gets rocked today, regardless.
 
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NFBuck said:
Kluber finishes with 269 K's, good for the 6th most ever for a Tribe hurler, and the most since Sam McDowell in 1969. The only names above him on that list are McDowell and Feller. Quite a season.
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If I weren't so lazy, I'd look up the stats for run support and number of errors or unearned runs allowed to see how it stacks up. But I have a sneaking suspicion that king Felix is going to win.
 
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Zippercat said:
Yeah, Felix is the sexy pick. Near triple digit heater gets em every time. Lot of voters will probably ignore their head to head match up.
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I think if Cleveland would have made the playoffs :lol: Kluber would probably win it but I just do not think he has gotten that much national recognition.

Just wait until next season. It will be the same old thing. The Indians have no tradable parts and their hitting will suck once again.
 
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scarletmike said:
Bunch of worthless bums, outside of Kluber.

Can't wait to see the cast of bums we put together for next year.
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Thought it was interesting that the radio consensus this morning is that Francona was taking a veiled shot at the FO with his "we finished right where we should have" (paraphrasing) statement...basically saying that we didn't have the horses to compete with the bats. Which is true, but...Francona didn't exactly remind people of John McGraw this year, either.
 
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Bucklion said:
Thought it was interesting that the radio consensus this morning is that Francona was taking a veiled shot at the FO with his "we finished right where we should have" (paraphrasing) statement...basically saying that we didn't have the horses to compete with the bats. Which is true, but...Francona didn't exactly remind people of John McGraw this year, either.
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I respectfully disagree.

Well, I don't really, because I don't remember John McGraw. (though I did read FredOU Prof Charles Alexander's book about him... good read)

At any rate... if you had told me Swisher was going to be a non-factor... again... and Bourn was going to miss most of the year, effectively... Zach McCallister was gonna flat out suck and Justin Masterson was gonna end up in St. Louis (well, that he ended up elsewhere is no surprise but he sucked before that), Kipnis would struggle the whole year, and we had to rely on Chisenhall and Yan Fucking Gomes (with affection) to be our only offense not named Michael Brantley and THAT team was gonna end up 8 games over .500 and not be mathmatically eliminated until game 160?

Shit, the problem here is when John McGraw didn't remind anyone of Terry Francona in... in... some year the Giants weren't all that good.

Whatever that means.

At any rate... whether Francona is a genius or not is up for debate, I am pretty sure, on the other hand that Mickey Callaway is. So, if there's a way to make sure they're our own little version of Tony LaRussa and Dave Duncan for the foreseeable future, you need to do that.

What they need is some people that can hit their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
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Bucklion said:
Thought it was interesting that the radio consensus this morning is that Francona was taking a veiled shot at the FO with his "we finished right where we should have" (paraphrasing) statement...basically saying that we didn't have the horses to compete with the bats. Which is true, but...Francona didn't exactly remind people of John McGraw this year, either.
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This might be a year late but I do not think that the Indians signed Swisher and Bourn to those long-term contracts without some input from Francona so not all the blame should be put on the FO for those signings. I mean Dolan was willing to spend the money but he got some pretty bad ROI along with some bad advice.
 
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