College Playoff

[BB73]

I've never been a playoff advocate, but of all the proposals I've seen, this is probably the one I'd be most comfortable with. As an aside, if it became necessary in order to gain sufficient support for the proposal, to placate the pro-Notre Dame contingent, you could make Notre Dame qualify under Step 2. I.e. "Any conference champions, or Notre Dame, that are ranked between #3 and #6 get in until the 4th team is selected". I personally would be reasonably comfortable with that amendment, since Notre Dame generally plays a solid BCS-caliber schedule, from my perspective. But I agree with you that it would be better still for Notre Dame to put aside their preciousness and join a conference.

edit: And yet I just realized that you failed to account for the possible scenario that all of the top 6 teams in the BCS standings are from the SEC. Havoc!

I did account for that, when I said 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. That was put in with the possibility of several teams from 1 conference being in the top-6.

 

[zincfinger]

I did account for that, when I said 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. That was put in with the possibility of several teams from 1 conference being in the top-6.

I'll get you next time, Gadget!

 

[MaxBuck]

All conferences are NOT equal. Stronger conferences would suffer under your definiton of "Only Conference Champions" deserve a shot at the title. Those stronger conferences have more fans, make more money for everyone, and perform better because they get the best athletes. Forcing them out because Boise went undefeated playing a creampuff schedule is ridiculous and only diminishes the value of the BCSNC.

You have said all kinds of stupid shit here (though honestly, your overall position on this thread is hard to argue with).

1. The SEC does NOT have more fans than the B1G. I doubt it has more fans on a per-team basis than the Big XII-II. It likely has more than the Big Least or MWC or ACC, but the PAC-12 would give it a challenge.

2. The SEC does NOT generate more money than the B1G.

3. Allowing 4 SEC teams to be involved in the 4-team playoff would make a mockery of the regular season. We need to have conference champions favored in this thing, with second-place teams perhaps being allowed in on a very infrequent basis.

I grant you that overall the superior athletes in US college football predominate in the SEC in 2012. But if you had to play games in Madison, Ann Arbor or Columbus (or hell, in Morgantown) in November, your "fast athletes" would suffer many more losses. And the SEC's shiny bowl record has been polished in large part by the fact you're playing home games in many cases.

 

[tidetoit]

After reading most of this thread and many more just like it from other conferences the angst over the BCS is pure homerism. Everyone is jealous of the SEC. Everyone is looking for a way to break the lock the SEC has on the Title - and they don't care if they mangle college football to do it. Why not just eliminate the SEC from consideration for the BCSNC? That's what most of the complainers want - they want to pretend the SEC isn't really that far ahead of their favorite team/conference or claim they're cheating or that the system is rigged in their favor or they're TOO LUCKY!!!! LOL! It's all BS. It would be funny if the crazies weren't really so nuts about it they'rereally going to give Boise and Montana State and their ridiculous conferences equal weight in the BCS equation.

This thread and all the others like it in the ACC, Big East, Big 12-2, the Pac 12 or 13, and all the rest of the conferences feigning outrage because the SEC is winning the title every year are pure homerism = jealousy that their teams and conferences can't compete with the SEC. If your [insert your team/conference] can't win just whine, cry, and blow it up and make it over again and again and again until you win or destroy the game - whichever comes first.

Why not recruit better, hire better coaches, and play better football. I guess that's too difficult.

 

[matcar]

After reading most of this thread and many more just like it from other conferences the angst over the BCS is pure homerism. Everyone is jealous of the SEC. Everyone is looking for a way to break the lock the SEC has on the Title - and they don't care if they mangle college football to do it. Why not just eliminate the SEC from consideration for the BCSNC? That's what most of the complainers want - they want to pretend the SEC isn't really that far ahead of their favorite team/conference or claim they're cheating or that the system is rigged in their favor or they're TOO LUCKY!!!! LOL! It's all BS. It would be funny if the crazies weren't really so nuts about it they'rereally going to give Boise and Montana State and their ridiculous conferences equal weight in the BCS equation.

This thread and all the others like it in the ACC, Big East, Big 12-2, the Pac 12 or 13, and all the rest of the conferences feigning outrage because the SEC is winning the title every year are pure homerism = jealousy that their teams and conferences can't compete with the SEC. If your [insert your team/conference] can't win just whine, cry, and blow it up and make it over again and again and again until you win or destroy the game - whichever comes first.

Why not recruit better, hire better coaches, and play better football. I guess that's too difficult.

In before the ban?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

 

[Buckeye513]

After reading most of this thread and many more just like it from other conferences the angst over the BCS is pure homerism. Everyone is jealous of the SEC. Everyone is looking for a way to break the lock the SEC has on the Title - and they don't care if they mangle college football to do it. Why not just eliminate the SEC from consideration for the BCSNC? That's what most of the complainers want - they want to pretend the SEC isn't really that far ahead of their favorite team/conference or claim they're cheating or that the system is rigged in their favor or they're TOO LUCKY!!!! LOL! It's all BS. It would be funny if the crazies weren't really so nuts about it they'rereally going to give Boise and Montana State and their ridiculous conferences equal weight in the BCS equation.

This thread and all the others like it in the ACC, Big East, Big 12-2, the Pac 12 or 13, and all the rest of the conferences feigning outrage because the SEC is winning the title every year are pure homerism = jealousy that their teams and conferences can't compete with the SEC. If your [insert your team/conference] can't win just whine, cry, and blow it up and make it over again and again and again until you win or destroy the game - whichever comes first.

Why not recruit better, hire better coaches, and play better football. I guess that's too difficult.

 

[Gatorubet]

In before the ban?

Well I, for one, appreciate him.




Tidetoit, Ubet, Woof, Nutria

 

[Ryan36_1]

Current system is definitely fair. Cmon guys this is all homerism.

I mean who didn't see Okie State get exposed the final week of the season last year. Who WOULDN'T have dropped them three to four spots. Beating a top 10 team by 34? Weaksauce.

 

[knapplc]

After reading most of this thread and many more just like it from other conferences the angst over the BCS is pure homerism. Everyone is jealous of the SEC. Everyone is looking for a way to break the lock the SEC has on the Title - and they don't care if they mangle college football to do it. Why not just eliminate the SEC from consideration for the BCSNC? That's what most of the complainers want - they want to pretend the SEC isn't really that far ahead of their favorite team/conference or claim they're cheating or that the system is rigged in their favor or they're TOO LUCKY!!!! LOL! It's all BS. It would be funny if the crazies weren't really so nuts about it they'rereally going to give Boise and Montana State and their ridiculous conferences equal weight in the BCS equation.

This thread and all the others like it in the ACC, Big East, Big 12-2, the Pac 12 or 13, and all the rest of the conferences feigning outrage because the SEC is winning the title every year are pure homerism = jealousy that their teams and conferences can't compete with the SEC. If your [insert your team/conference] can't win just whine, cry, and blow it up and make it over again and again and again until you win or destroy the game - whichever comes first.

Why not recruit better, hire better coaches, and play better football. I guess that's too difficult.

And your position would be unchanged if it was the Pac-10 winning the past five titles in a row, yes?

You need to check your stance before throwing out words like "homerism" at others.

 

[Roundabout]

not sure how limiting the SEC to one...

team in the playoff is going to stop them from winning titles... its not about that, its giving the whole country a chance to enjoy earning a title. If anything, I think it speaks lowly of your league if you have to have two or three teams in to make sure you win the title. You want to win the national title... win your freaking league. If the SEC has the best team in the country, they will still win the title, and I'm fine with that... What burns my butt is that how it would have been the end of the world if the game was repeated for a national title in 06? but when its the SEC and a repeat of one of the biggest boring games of the season... it was a great thing.... please defend that SEC homers....

 

[JBaney45]

I don't necessarily think that you should HAVE to be your conference champion to get into the playoffs, but they should limit how many teams from the same conference can make it (I would set that limit at 1, but no more then 2 obviously for sure).

Scenario: Team runs the table through regular season in a major conference, is the only undefeated team left standing going into conference championship weekend..gets upset by a 3-4 loss team in their conference title game (perhaps even a team they beat earlier that season). It would be hard to argue that that team still wasn't deserving of getting to play for a title when they for the most part dominated their conference and just happened to have their off game on the worst weekend to have it. That's more of a flaw in the whole pre-determined divisional structure which can lead to questionable conference championship games.

 

[BigWoof31]

What burns my butt is that how it would have been the end of the world if the game was repeated for a national title in 06? but when its the SEC and a repeat of one of the biggest boring games of the season... it was a great thing.... please defend that SEC homers....

LSU fans were openly taunting Bama fans, "you want a rematch, come and get it!" - turns out it bit them in the ass.

Majority opinion (at least on BP) is that Ohio State fans didn't want a rematch and didn't agure for it.

Your claim is further damaged by the fact that both UM and Ohio State were blown out against supposed inferior opponents. Granted, that could have happened this year if Alabama had played Stanford in the Sugar Bowl and Okie State played LSU in the title game.

 

[BigWoof31]

I don't necessarily think that you should HAVE to be your conference champion to get into the playoffs, but they should limit how many teams from the same conference can make it (I would set that limit at 1, but no more then 2 obviously for sure).

I agree with this. I think the highest rated non-conference champion deserves a shot. Outside of the most recent LSU/Alabama scenario, I can imagine a situation when Oregon and SC make it, or Texas/Oklahoma

 

[scott91575]

After reading most of this thread and many more just like it from other conferences the angst over the BCS is pure homerism. Everyone is jealous of the SEC. Everyone is looking for a way to break the lock the SEC has on the Title - and they don't care if they mangle college football to do it. Why not just eliminate the SEC from consideration for the BCSNC? That's what most of the complainers want - they want to pretend the SEC isn't really that far ahead of their favorite team/conference or claim they're cheating or that the system is rigged in their favor or they're TOO LUCKY!!!! LOL! It's all BS. It would be funny if the crazies weren't really so nuts about it they'rereally going to give Boise and Montana State and their ridiculous conferences equal weight in the BCS equation.

This thread and all the others like it in the ACC, Big East, Big 12-2, the Pac 12 or 13, and all the rest of the conferences feigning outrage because the SEC is winning the title every year are pure homerism = jealousy that their teams and conferences can't compete with the SEC. If your [insert your team/conference] can't win just whine, cry, and blow it up and make it over again and again and again until you win or destroy the game - whichever comes first.

Why not recruit better, hire better coaches, and play better football. I guess that's too difficult.

Why not have a university that is not a glorified community college? I guess that's too difficult.