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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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BB73 said:
I suspect the death rates for NY and NJ, for only cases which were reported in the last two months, would be very similar to the rates in the other states. The rates differ primarily due to timing of the cases, rather than geographical or other factors.
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Jagdaddy said:
Yup. NY and NJ compare most closely to Italy, Spain, France ...
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If you look at the reported numbers for New York, they are shaky at best. Since Jul 17 (one month ago) the death SDMA has been under 20 every day except two (39 on 23 Jul, and exactly 20 on 30 Jul) and in single digits for nine of those days. The average SDMA for this period is 13, so in a state with a population of 19.5M, an average of 1 in 1,500,000, or 0.000067% of the state population, a day has died from the virus over the last month. Compare that with the US national average for the same timeframe of 982 a day dying from a population of 331M (0.000297%) or around 4.5 times that of NY. There's no way that NY has gone from 1,000 deaths a day in April to a baker's dozen daily deaths in August simply by masking-up and social distancing, because as we've seen neither have been practiced very vigorously.

As for Italy, Spain, and France:

Italy: They've had a death SDMA of 20 or less since July 4, and 10 or less since Jul 24...this is with a population of over 60M, meaning for the last month and a half the daily death rate has been between 1 and 2 in 3,000,000. Riiiight.
Spain: Aside from a one-day spike of 73 deaths on Aug 10, Spain has had exactly four other days of double-digit death SDMA since Jun 13 (17 on Jul 3, 26 on Aug 4, 26 on Aug 13, and 12 on Aug 14). So, if you assume a SDMA of 10 for all the other days (which actually all of them have less than 10), you get SDMA of 12 (rounded up). Since Spain has a population of 47M, this means over than last two months about 1 in 3,900,000 die daily from the virus. Again, riiiight.
France: Their death SDMA has averaged around 15 since Jul 1...with a population of 67M this means about 1 in 4,467,000 a day die from the virus.

This tells me that one of two things is happening:
  1. NY and Italy, Spain, and France are lying their collective asses off about coronavirus deaths
  2. The US as a whole is seriously inflating coronavirus death tolls
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
If you look at the reported numbers for New York, they are shaky at best. Since Jul 17 (one month ago) the death SDMA has been under 20 every day except two (39 on 23 Jul, and exactly 20 on 30 Jul) and in single digits for nine of those days. The average SDMA for this period is 13, so in a state with a population of 19.5M, an average of 1 in 1,500,000, or 0.000067% of the state population, a day has died from the virus over the last month. Compare that with the US national average for the same timeframe of 982 a day dying from a population of 331M (0.000297%) or around 4.5 times that of NY. There's no way that NY has gone from 1,000 deaths a day in April to a baker's dozen daily deaths in August simply by masking-up and social distancing, because as we've seen neither have been practiced very vigorously.

As for Italy, Spain, and France:

Italy: They've had a death SDMA of 20 or less since July 4, and 10 or less since Jul 24...this is with a population of over 60M, meaning for the last month and a half the daily death rate has been between 1 and 2 in 3,000,000. Riiiight.
Spain: Aside from a one-day spike of 73 deaths on Aug 10, Spain has had exactly four other days of double-digit death SDMA since Jun 13 (17 on Jul 3, 26 on Aug 4, 26 on Aug 13, and 12 on Aug 14). So, if you assume a SDMA of 10 for all the other days (which actually all of them have less than 10), you get SDMA of 12 (rounded up). Since Spain has a population of 47M, this means over than last two months about 1 in 3,900,000 die daily from the virus. Again, riiiight.
France: Their death SDMA has averaged around 15 since Jul 1...with a population of 67M this means about 1 in 4,467,000 a day die from the virus.

This tells me that one of two things is happening:
  1. NY and Italy, Spain, and France are lying their collective asses off about coronavirus deaths
  2. The US as a whole is seriously inflating coronavirus death tolls
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Did a little fact-checking of my own on the claim by Governor Noem that South Dakota's infection rate is way better than any other state...

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I copied today's national stats from worldometers and pasted them in a spreadsheet and did some sorting. South Dakota's infection rate is no where near being the best, and is in fact almost dead-in-the-middle, ranking #22 with 1-in-85 SD residents having tested positive. Maine is tops with 1-in-409, followed by Maine with 1-in-320, and then Hawaii with 1-in-271. As for deaths per population, South Dakota is only 15th overall, with 1-in-5,782 dying from COVID. The best is Hawaii (by far) with 1-in-35,397 dying, followed by Alaska with 1-in-26,127, and then Wyoming with 1-in-17,538.

So her COVID claims are way off, and knowingly making such stupid claims only bolsters the positions of those who want to continue lockdowns.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
How do we not have dildos in this thread yet?
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ask and you shall receive...


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There has been so much confusion about the Covid data by states and fed that it will take years to sort it out. Mean time 170,000 have died with 5.5 million sick and 30 plus million out of work and the misery just continues like watching a giant train wreck in slow motion. We are all living through a nightmare. We need some hope from the scientific community that this has an end.
 
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Taosman said:
There has been so much confusion about the Covid data by states and fed that it will take years to sort it out. Mean time 170,000 have died with 5.5 million sick and 30 plus million out of work and the misery just continues like watching a giant train wreck in slow motion. We are all living through a nightmare. We need some hope from the scientific community that this has an end.
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Science may find an effective vaccine, or a reasonable treatment to alleviate the symptoms (there will be no “cure”), but that is only a small part of what this entire thing has wrought at this point.
 
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