Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[Dryden]

This is total BS because now it is affecting me. Zach Brown Band and Amos Lee at Nationwide Friday night now postponed. Guess my wife and I will just have to find a bar with a TouchTunes I can pump money into.

My 11 year old daughter has spent three months rehearsing with our local arts & civic club for her role as 'the Book Fairy' in The Enchanted Bookshop. We were told last night all performances were cancelled this week since OU-L is denying us access to use their auditorium/theater as scheduled.

My girl is devastated.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

My 11 year old daughter has spent three months rehearsing with our local arts & civic club for her role as 'the Book Fairy' in The Enchanted Bookshop. We were told last night all performances were cancelled this week since OU-L is denying us access to use their auditorium/theater as scheduled.

My girl is devastated.

sucks man.

 

[AKAK]

My 11 year old daughter has spent three months rehearsing with our local arts & civic club for her role as 'the Book Fairy' in The Enchanted Bookshop. We were told last night all performances were cancelled this week since OU-L is denying us access to use their auditorium/theater as scheduled.

My girl is devastated.

Yeah, we are watching some similar developments unfold... Have a little longer for things to play out so, hopefully, the known unknowns will be fewer by then. But thst sucks for your kid, and of course, it sucks for Dads too.

 

[Dryden]

 

[AKAK]

Here's some more on seasonality, and of course its 3 different points of view because we don't know anything... but its something I'm curious about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weat...ean-it-will-go-away-this-summer-experts-warn/
Anyway, some comments are dumb but the singapore situation is interesting to watch, I've also been keeping an eye on Florida with a personal interest, I won't draw conclusions from either but they are different from Wuhan, Seattle, Milan and New Rochelle.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

So, for those attempting to say this is just like the flu, here are some numbers. In the last full flu season (18-19) that the CDC has numbers for, they estimate about 35 million cases in the US with about 35K deaths or a mortality rate of 0.1% (1 in a thousand chance of dying). The mortality rate for COVID-19 is unclear. The Chinese are stating 2-2.25 percent, but the Italians are finding it closer to 5%. That's a massive statistical gap (between a 1 in 50 and a 1 in 20 chance of dying) versus a normal flu season (1 in 1,000). Throw in the abnormally long incubation period of 14 days without showing symptoms, and this is absolutely not like what we consider "the flu" in any sense.

 

[Onebuckfan]

What would the death loss to flu be without vaccination. People poo poo flu vaccine but without, more vulnerable people would be at risk and die. With a good vaccine that people would adopt would drop the Coronavirus death rate to that of the flu. My Mom is 91 lives by herself and still takes care of her everyday needs. Yes she needs someone to take her to church the doctor and shopping. Her lungs are weak, her heart has damage from scarlet fever in her teens. Flu vaccine helps her live a life she enjoys. We need a vaccine..

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Protect Torchy's Tacos at all cost

Not impressed with Torchy’s. It’s OK, but merely OK. Gimmick to me.

 

[AKAK]

So, for those attempting to say this is just like the flu, here are some numbers. In the last full flu season (18-19) that the CDC has numbers for, they estimate about 35 million cases in the US with about 35K deaths or a mortality rate of 0.1% (1 in a thousand chance of dying). The mortality rate for COVID-19 is unclear. The Chinese are stating 2-2.25 percent, but the Italians are finding it closer to 5%. That's a massive statistical gap (between a 1 in 50 and a 1 in 20 chance of dying) versus a normal flu season (1 in 1,000). Throw in the abnormally long incubation period of 14 days without showing symptoms, and this is absolutely not like what we consider "the flu" in any sense.

I think the Wuhan mortality rate is 5+% and the rest of China is under 1%. Korea also under 1%.

There's a combination of factors here... one is how much testing (Korea), lots of old People (Italy) and then just a question of readiness, which clearly Wuhan was not, and Italy apparently spent a long time thinking it was flu (and the quick ramp up of cases overwhelmed the healthcare capacity in both Hubei and Northern Italy). Also, and I don't know how well they're going to be able to actually track this but there are 2 different strains already identified, one worse than the other.

But regardless of that, I'd argue the Flu mortality rate is usually closer to .05% and even if the Wuhan is only .5% once testing increases the denominator that's still a lot worse, especially if you're old. (well, maybe only if you're old, apparently in children and young adults its about the same as flu, or flu might be a touch worse)

 

[Dryden]

For the first time in my life I’m regretting not buying that ticket insurance from Ticketmaster for the Clutch/Volbeat show in May.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

So, for those attempting to say this is just like the flu, here are some numbers. In the last full flu season (18-19) that the CDC has numbers for, they estimate about 35 million cases in the US with about 35K deaths or a mortality rate of 0.1% (1 in a thousand chance of dying). The mortality rate for COVID-19 is unclear. The Chinese are stating 2-2.25 percent, but the Italians are finding it closer to 5%. That's a massive statistical gap (between a 1 in 50 and a 1 in 20 chance of dying) versus a normal flu season (1 in 1,000). Throw in the abnormally long incubation period of 14 days without showing symptoms, and this is absolutely not like what we consider "the flu" in any sense.

Still the vast majority of those who have died from COVID are elderly and those with compromised immune systems. It doesn't help things when the media is portraying this as the second coming of The Plague...

 

[heisman]

So, for those attempting to say this is just like the flu, here are some numbers. In the last full flu season (18-19) that the CDC has numbers for, they estimate about 35 million cases in the US with about 35K deaths or a mortality rate of 0.1% (1 in a thousand chance of dying). The mortality rate for COVID-19 is unclear. The Chinese are stating 2-2.25 percent, but the Italians are finding it closer to 5%. That's a massive statistical gap (between a 1 in 50 and a 1 in 20 chance of dying) versus a normal flu season (1 in 1,000). Throw in the abnormally long incubation period of 14 days without showing symptoms, and this is absolutely not like what we consider "the flu" in any sense.

Exponentially more people will die from the flu than COVID-19, because if you're healthy and under 60, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is nil. It's a media and politically driven false panic.

 

[Thump]

BIG announcement coming from Dewine at 2pm.

 

[Dryden]

Exponentially more people will die from the flu than COVID-19, because if you're healthy and under 60, the mortality rate from COVID-19 is nil. It's a media and politically driven false panic.

C'mon man, that's nonsense. The media didn't lockdown Italy or kill over 3,000 people in China or kill four senior politicians in Iran in just the past ten weeks. Information disseminated from the WHO, NIH, CDC, and others is freely available without having it filtered through the media.

With a R0 of 2.6 (vs the seasonal flus 1.3), the high mortality rate of 3.5 (vs the flus 0.05), and the fact nobody on earth has any natural immune defense against this, the numbers will be devastating if it is not contained, or spreads across health care workers, and hospitals are both booked full and under-staffed. With no vaccine, seasonal flu shot, or herd immunity, those of us under 60 are the vector that will spread this to our own loved ones over 60.

If 34 million got this like they have the flu this past season, it wouldn't kill 20,000, it'd kill 1.9 million. If it is proven to be more devastating to those over 60, why risk exposing the 72.5 million Americans over 60 to it? 3.5% of that demographic alone would be 2.54 million.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Just declared a pandemic by the WHO.