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DB Antonio "Yao" Smith (official thread)

I went to Ohio State on a full academic scholarship--which lasted for 4 years.

Antonio's going to be a 5th-year senior. So maybe he didn't need an athletic scholarship before this year, and he's getting one this year because his academic one expired.

Just a thought...

Good point, except for the fact that Smith played extensively on special teams last year and a scholarship wasn't taken out of the football pool for him (which would've happened if he had been on academic scholarship since any other scholarship gets converted to a football scholarship once he steps foot on the feild).
 
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Good point, except for the fact that Smith played extensively on special teams last year and a scholarship wasn't taken out of the football pool for him (which would've happened if he had been on academic scholarship since any other scholarship gets converted to a football scholarship once he steps foot on the feild).
You must have not read my posts before, have you? Not Only do I know for a fact that he went to OSU on a academic scholie, I have proof of it.

I don't know why it is really that hard to understand. Not a bash against you, but the facts are here, he was/is on a scholarship.
Career Notes:
Hard-hitting defender who is in his fourth year with the Buckeyes after walking on in 2002 ... was redshirted that year, but has seen increased playing time each of the past two seasons and that number should continue to go up this year ... listed as a strong safety on the roster, but has made a name for himself with his kamikaze style of play on special teams ... played in all 12 games last year and earned his first letter ... has a terrific work ethic and is a student of the game ... a three-time OSU scholar-athlete ... is a member of the Young Scholars program and is attending Ohio State on a scholarship from that organization.
 
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I'm not saying this is necessarily applicable to Smith's case, but you do realize that every scholarship has a backer/sponsoring organization attached to it, right?
Yea I know that, but thats not what I'm trying to prove. The point I'm trying to prove is that he was/has indeed on a scholarship the past 3(with this year 4) years.

And since he had stepped on the field, that scholarship would've/should've been deducted from the 85 limit already.
 
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You must have not read my posts before, have you? Not Only do I know for a fact that he went to OSU on a academic scholie, I have proof of it.

I don't know why it is really that hard to understand. Not a bash against you, but the facts are here, he was/is on a scholarship.

Was the scholarship awarded by the university or by the organization? You have no place to be a little smart-ass.
 
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Does it really matter?

You act as though that I'm wrong and he wasn't on a scholarship before.
hopefully soon this thread will be about antonio. You were unrelenting in your claim that OSU certainly awarded him an academic schollie, when it turns out that organization offered him one (which is significant, as it does not require him to be part of the 85 limit). I appreciate your investigation into the matter, which proved that neither side was correct (he was not a walkon nor on a full-ride from OSU), or both sides were correct, depending at how you look at it. The important part is we got it straightened out, and that a buddy of yours has gone on to big things at OSU.

Gotta love how tressel rewards his upperclassmen with a scholarship. Smith sounds like he's been a warrior in the classroom and on the field, which makes it even better. Hats off to Antonio.
 
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Does it really matter?

You act as though that I'm wrong and he wasn't on a scholarship before.

Yes, it does matter.

YOUNG SCHOLARS PROGRAM

This is not the typical academic scholarship which could be misused by a university as a back-door to getting in athletes under the guise of an academic scholarship. It is run by Ohio State's Office of Minority Affairs. All of the students are from low-income families and are members of African-American, Latino/Hispanic-American, Native American and Appalachian minority groups. Young Scholars must be the first generation in his or her family to graduate from a four-year university or college with a bachelor's degree or beyond. As a statewide program, YSP is a collaborative effort between The Ohio State University and the nine largest urban school districts in Ohio (Akron, Canton, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Lorain, Toledo, and Youngstown). So, the pool from which applicants can be selected, unlike the typical academic scholarship where all you have to have is a baseline GPA in a certain area. Actually, it is more of a program to increase the number of low income students, including African American, Latino/Hispanic, Native American, and Appalachian students in their pursuit of a college degree, rather than an academic program to fund students who have high GPAs. There are enough safeguards built in to where the NCAA will not see this as a back door though which Ohio State can pick up football players under the false guise of an academic scholarship and thus save a football scholarship.
 
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Lots of good words about Smith in this article from the Ozone. Nonetheless, reading between the lines I would still bet he is not the starter come Northern Ill.

And not to refuel any smoldering flames, but note this line:
In the space of one month he has gone from a non-scholarship walkon player to a full scholarship player

Football
Buckeye Defensive Backfield Taking Shape - Corners Stepping Forward
By John Porentas

The NBA has come to the OSU football team.

OSU defensive backs coach Tim Beckman was asked who is currently in the first group of defensive backs, and Beckman rattled off a list of three familiar names, and the name of an NBA player.

"Right now Yao (Ming) and Malcolm (Jenkins) have been playing at the corner positions and then Jamario (O'Neal) has stepped in and played well and Nick Patterson. Those are the four. If we go nickel, Anderson Russell is the one who jumped in and had a great scrimmage. There are seven days left and there are people in the wings who want to step in and be starters too, so the competition has made us better as a secondary," said Beckman.

The Buckeyes will not actually be putting a corner on the field next fall that stands over seven feet tall. "Yao" is actually Antonio Smith, affectionately known to his teammates and coaches as Yao. Without exception, they all refer to him by that name.

"They call me Yao," explained Smith.
Antonio "Yao Ming" Smith

"Every year we have a basketball tournament. I guess coach Mel Tucker, when he was here, we had the basketball tournament and I kind of showed these guys up a little bit, so they nicknamed me Yao Ming," said a slightly embarrassed Smith.

Smith is listed at 5-9 on the OSU roster, about a foot-and-a-half shorter than Yao Ming, but OSU's Yao has pulled off perhaps the biggest surprise of the spring. In the space of one month he has gone from a non-scholarship walkon player to a full scholarship player who is currently the leading candidate for a starting corner position.

Smith is a surprise to most observers, but with hindsight, maybe that surprise is actually a bit misplaced. He has stood out as one of OSU's gunners on special teams, always getting down field to pressure return men. OSU defensive coordinator Jim Heacock has said this spring that he is looking for playmakers for his defense this fall, and Smith definitely proved he falls into that category on special teams. Maybe outside observers didn't notice, but apparently the OSU coaching staff did.

"Yao was always one of those guys we stuck in there and he'd run down on kickoffs and punts and make plays," said Beckman.

"The credibility that he gave himself through special teams is always a big part. We always say to those defensive backs, if you're not on a special team then we've probably got a problem, because you're the type of athlete that can play on every special team," Beckman said.

The gunner position on special teams is usually reserved for the fastest players on the team. Smith was chosen for that spot last season on a team laden with fast players. That says plenty about his speed. As to his athleticism, you need only to look at his nickname. In a basketball tournament populated by elite athletes, he was the one that earned the nickname Yao. Laugh if you will, but we think it says something. Then there are the intangibles.

Yao is a fifth-year mechanical engineering student with 3.0+ GPA. That tells you pretty much all you need to know about his intelligence level. The young man is very bright. He also has a great attitude. Though he languished for four years as a special teams player, he never pouted. He simply kept his nose to the grindstone.

"Regardless whether anybody hears about me or not, I have a personal goal. That's to get better everyday," Smith said.

Smith has practice at the corner position for most of his Buckeye career, but last season practiced as a safety, an experience he feels is now of great value to him as a corner.

"I feel that that helped me a lot, playing safety. It's a little more responsibility. You have to learn all the defensive backs positions, so I feel like playing safety a little bit I can see how my job as a corner how I have to help those guys out to help the whole defense out," said Smith.

Smith has earned a shot by his play and persistence. His current status as a number one corner is anything but a token given to a fifth-year senior, it is a bona-fide opportunity to be the number one guy. Beckman explained why that is the case.

"Because of our belief in him as defensive back coaches and as a defensive staff," Beckman said.

"He's earned it. He had as good a scrimmage as we had back there at the corner position, so somebody has to take it from him. That's the way college football is," Beckman said.
Malcolm Jenkins

Smith is currently penciled in at one corner, and sophomore Malcolm Jenkins, who earned playing time last year as a true freshman and several starts when injuries made that necessary, at the other corner. There are also a host of other players in the wings vying to be in the two-deep and hoping to make a challenge for a starting position should Jenkins or Yao slip up.

"I would say right now between Andre (Amos) and Donald Washington," said Beckman of the players who are competing for the status as the "next" corner on the depth chart.

"Donald Washington has had a great spring too, and Mike Roberts has done a good job," he said.

The OSU secondary will have many new names this fall, and according to one veteran, will also have a bit of a different emphasis. This defense is hoping to be a big-play defense and has looked like one in the early going.

"The biggest thing that surprised me is the amount of turnovers we've been getting," said Mitchell.

"It's well-documented that we weren't very good at turnovers last year. I think we were 114 in the nation in turnover margin. That's been the emphasis in the spring and that's basically how we won the jersey scrimmage is getting a lot of turnovers," Mitchell said.

Safeties coach Paul Haynes explained what the OSU coaching staff is looking for in this year's secondary.

"Production; make plays," said Haynes.

"As a defensive back we're in the business of pass breakups and interceptions. No one every got drafted as a DB making a thousand tackles."
 
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From the official site:

ohiostate

Tim Beckman, Defensive Backs coach

On Antonio Smith

"He is a model student-athlete. He just does everything right on and off the field. He does anything you ask him to do and does it to the best of his ability every time."


<!-- STORY AD ENDS HERE -->Antonio Smith, Senior Defensive Back
On earning a scholarship

"I'm pretty excited. It feels really good to get the respect from all the players and coaches. My job doesn't change though. I am here to compete, play hard and to get better. As long as Coach Tressel has faith in me, I will get better every day."

On his position at the top of the depth chart

"It's my fifth year and I've put a lot of hard work in. The coaches trust me and they have seen what I can do. Everyone is trying to get better. There are so many guys competing for the top every day."
<!-- STORY AD BEGINS HERE -->
 
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Not to be a hater, but 5'9 sounds a little short to be an Ohio State cornerback. I've loved the past few years of having taller CBs so we don't get hit by another Plaxico Burress complex like in '98. I have to agree that I doubt he actually starts, but if nothing else, he'll provide some quality depth.
 
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I've always thought 5'9" was a little short also but Winfield was the same height so I guess I don't really care. As long as someone plays shut down Defense I don't care. However it would be kind of nice to have a 6'1" Amos in there for the deep/jump balls...Minnesota would have a field day again...
 
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