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Engagement rings (merged)

It isn't really as bad as some of you are making it out to be.

Oh-- Yes it is.

By the way... wtf is a promise ring, exactly? I haven't heard of one those since I saw 10th grade girls ask for them from loser seniors before they put out.

I'd say if somone really needs one... I'd spend about as much as Manfred... that or 50 cents from a gumball machine.
 
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I don't know what a promise ring is, and I don't know where people got the idea that's what this was. I took sushi's advice and did some research so that I can seem less clueless than I usually am. I looked at some other rings online and if it is what I think it is 999 is a pretty good price. I'll be sure to negotiate just to make sure I do as well as I can. I'm definitely not afraid to walk away if I think they are trying to screw me.
 
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HAWG-
Don't get it just because it is 999. Trust me if you don't know about the 3 C's then take the time and do the research. Put it like this, I purchased my wifes ring that she picked out. I get it home and see flaws in it. I then take it to a second jeweler who informed me that I didn't get take but it was a little over priced. Now a week later when I give it to her I tell her that I have noticed the stuff and she and the second jeweler both can't see the things with the naked eye. After I clearly point it out the jeweler notices that the prongs are loose and the stone is about to fall out. We take it to get fixed she is fine with the flaws and the argue with me about not getting the warranty and it is going to cost us. Now I flip the hell out this is their problem they need to fix it which btw they did. (BTW don't EVER shop Zales).
Point of the story is even though you know that you are going to marry her and she knows that she is going to marry you take you time to get this stuff done. It will be much better for both of you in the long run.
Also when the time comes make your wedding fun. And no matter what don't ever listen to the line, "I always wanted a fall wedding, the leaves will look beautiful" It interfers with football season. Btw I got married on Joe Pa's big victory over us. I have the game on in the church until I have to walk. Then a coworker tells me after the service that they lost she flipped out. Just ruined the rest of my day. Over all though it has been pretty good.
 
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Does she absolutely need another ring?

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OK

It is a rock from the ground and in reality that is all it is worth.
There are 4 C's, Carat, Color , Cut & Clarity.
Women seem to crave these things and it a one upmanship thing for them to their friends. Christmas is coming if you have to, make it a package deal.
Pressure is not a good way to continue a relationship.

Age does do wonderful things for your perception.
 
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If this is a promise ring, and you're seriously contemplating it, please never post here again. If, however, it is an engagement ring, then I recommend (depending on her style and taste) that you visit an estate jeweler. I purchased my wife's engagement ring from an estate jeweler for $500, and it appraised for $3800 at an independant jeweler.
 
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OK, I have had a few beers at Lunch and I will try to be diplomatic about this. Don't be such a pussy! Get some of that Astroglide out and put in.........nevermind.

Here is my opinion. You know you want to marrry her. She knows you want to marry her. You both agree that sometime between now and whenever you are going to get married you will be in a better financial situation. Find yourself a really nice synthetic diamond. Cubic Z, or diamonique or whatever the fuck is cool now. Don't just by a cheap shit CZ Ring, just buy a good quality simulated stone and put it in a very nice setting. Pick the setting you would have picked for the real thing. When the right time comes, you will both know you are going to get married, you will have more money, you will not have wasted a bunch of money if something goes wrong. Sometime before the wedding take the fake back in and put a real diamond into the same setting. You do not have to mislead her just be honest and tell her that you could not find what you wanted for the money you had. If she really does not care about the rock as much as what it signifies she should not have a problem with it. If she does then she is a materialistic bitch and you should get the astroglide back out and go to work.
 
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If you are not readyt then don't do it. My Roomate right now has a fiancee and the way things went down are sketchy to say the least.

She claimed she was getting a new job where she was going to be out of town so she needed some sort of commitment. He goes, buys the ring, and proposes. A few weeks later not only hasn't she not taken the new job but she has been fired from her old job.

She has been unemployed since (3 months) and now says that they need to move the wedding up so that she can be on his health insurance so that she can afford her crazy pills.

Did I mention the last job that she got fired from was her fourth job in the 2 years that they have been dating?
 
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I have gotten all of my wife's jewlery from Jared, they have always been really good to me and very reasonable.

I also purchase a lot of my wifes jewelry from Jareds. Be careful when buying, educate yourself on the c's of the diamond. Shop around, so you know what the hell you are talking about.
 
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If you are not 100% sure you want her to be your wife then don't buy any type of a ring. If she really loves you she will wait until you are ready. I made my wife wait several years after she wanted the ring... Guess what she is my wife, she didn' go anywhere...

Now regarding the ring: For starters there are 4 C's... cut, carat, clarity, and color.

The cut is how well the diamond is cut according to the style. There is 0 make to 5 make (for each style... a style is round brilliant, emerald, etc.). A zero make is a perfect cut, and a 5 make is way off where it should be. It is imparitive that you get a zero make (perfect cut). without this, the diamond will not reflect light properly and it will always look dull. A zero make reflects the light perfectly at all angles the light can enter, so it has a lot of "pop(sparkles)". You can have a 10 carat ring however if it isn't cut corectly it will not sparkle at all, and is a waste of money.

carat is the size of the diamond (important, but not near as important as the cut). Do what you can afford. a 1.0 is much more than twice that of a .50, prices increase exponentially...

clarity is how "clear" the diamond is. is it clowdy? Are their black spots? Are their imperfections? That is where clarity comes in... there is flawless, internally flawless, VVS1, VVS2, VS1, VS2, SI1, SI2, I1, I2, etc.... to the trained naked eye VS2 and flawless look identical. SI1 on down do have visual blemishes. If you can afford it, I suggest a VS2. Nobody will have it under a microscope so you cannot tell the difference from it to a flawless... however to the naked eye (which how where 100% of the people will look at it) it is flawless. VS2 is still a bit expensive and many drop into the SI or I categories, really depends on your price range.

Color is how clear or yellow it is. D, E, F are all considered colorless (clear). G, H, I are all considered near colorless (unless it is right up against a bleach white background there is no way you can tell is isn't colorless. I is just a tiny bit off). J, K, L and on down the list will get worse and worse in a yellow tint to the diamond. I suggest an H or I (unless you want a pure colorless class, then go with the F... no sense in the D and E since the top three are all technically colorless and no sense in spending the money on it)... but you also need to look at your budget.

I suggest no matter what that you get a zero make... anything else is a waste of money. Then if price is an issue, I would go for the VS2 in clarity (still technically clear to the trained naked eye), H or I in color (near colorless... just the smallest bit off of no color), and then get the carat that you can afford.

Everybody is in different shoes as far as budgets are concerned, but $999 seems cheap. Buyer beware... Know what you buy or it could be overpriced. Also, any list price is high, places will and do negotiate...
 
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buckeyefool said:
If you are not readyt then don't do it. My Roomate right now has a fiancee and the way things went down are sketchy to say the least.

She claimed she was getting a new job where she was going to be out of town so she needed some sort of commitment. He goes, buys the ring, and proposes. A few weeks later not only hasn't she not taken the new job but she has been fired from her old job.

She has been unemployed since (3 months) and now says that they need to move the wedding up so that she can be on his health insurance so that she can afford her crazy pills.

Did I mention the last job that she got fired from was her fourth job in the 2 years that they have been dating?
I'm sorry but your roomate should have known she was a psycho way before he made that type of commitment. The writing was clearly on the wall. It's just sometimes quality tang can cloud your judgement. Tell him to break up with her, I guarantee after he does that he will still be able to get laid by her, and the action will be better than ever.
 
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