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The problem I have with Herbie is this: had SC squeaked past UCLA, he still would've had SC #2. After all, he said nothing about why SC didn't deserve to play for the national championship the week leading up to the game.

Why the double standard? Why use the "style points" argument against one team and not the other? And if his value system is truly based on "style points", why didn't he make mention of SC's close brushes with Washington St, Arizona St, Washington and Arizona?
 
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It's been said before, but it should be repeated as often as necessary:

  • If you DO NOT want a play-off:
    • I'll go out on a limb and suggest that you like the fact that College Football has the most meaningful regular season of any sport. A rematch craps all over the regular season.
  • If you DO want a play-off:
    • Why on God's Green Earth would you give up the sanctity of the regular season for anything LESS than a play-off???
The BCS is giving us the worst of both worlds. It is a system that is supposed to give us the two best teams in the NC Bowl; and as such it may well provide a rematch due to the current set of rules.

The regular season gets crapped on - no playoff as a trade-off.
 
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Florida lost to a 3 loss team and should have lost to South Carolina.

Michigan lost a close game to the #1 team in college football on the road, who has yet to lose.

If the AP puts Florida at #2 they are screwing Michigan, plain and simple. Conference champs doesn't mean shit with the BCS. Look at OU and NU. OU getting pounded by KSU by 28 didn't keep them out of the title game. Why should Michigan's loss keep them out of this one??
 
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wolfamngstsheep;676936; said:
Florida lost to a 3 loss team and should have lost to South Carolina.

Michigan lost a close game to the #1 team in college football on the road, who has yet to lose.

If the AP puts Florida at #2 they are screwing Michigan, plain and simple. Conference champs doesn't mean shit with the BCS. Look at OU and NU. OU getting pounded by KSU by 28 didn't keep them out of the title game. Why should Michigan's loss keep them out of this one??
Comparing games to games , Is that good? You forgot about the wolverweinies close games (3 in a row I think) they almost lost to NW.
Michigan screwed them selves by losing to the best team in the nation.
:oh:
 
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wolfamngstsheep;676936; said:
Florida lost to a 3 loss team and should have lost to South Carolina.

Michigan lost a close game to the #1 team in college football on the road, who has yet to lose.

If the AP puts Florida at #2 they are screwing Michigan, plain and simple. Conference champs doesn't mean shit with the BCS. Look at OU and NU. OU getting pounded by KSU by 28 didn't keep them out of the title game. Why should Michigan's loss keep them out of this one??

Auburn lost two games and is ranked #11 in the nation. Let's keep the facts straight. Florida lost on the road in a game that came down to a couple of plays.

My eyes are kinda bad so remind me again where the "should have lost" column is in the standings?

And snubbing a team that has won its conference, played a tougher schedule by far, and has one more win than the other would be perfectly justifiable? Weak argument.
 
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Best Buckeye;676919; said:
My bet is that the money wins.
The networks will push for a game featuring tOSU - Fla. Their reasoning will be the difference in the amount of money to be made. For the most part only big 10 fans will watch a tOSU- Meech game, while the audience for tOsu - Fla would add the sec crowd.


I agree that Fox and, more importantly, the conference commisioners will push for 2 different conferences to be in the finals... because of the $$$

I don't think it will influence TV viewers though... the game on 11/18 was the highest rated national game in over a decade. College football fans will watch the nat'l championship game regardless of who's in it.
 
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My problem with Herbie is the plus 1 playoff format he keeps spewing. All it does is punish the undefeated team and let the 1 loss teams have closure.

He says seed the top 4 teams and rotate them through the existing 4 BCS Bowls(never mind thats only 3 games), my point is why in the fuck should the undefeated #1 team have to play the extra game? Don't keep putting an idea out there thats completely fucked up Herbie. If you want all the 1 loss teams to playoff to determine who's #2 then fine but the undefeated teams in any given year should not have to play an extra game.
 
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Sdgobucks;676728; said:
I dont want a rematch, because I dont want to hear the bitching that "OSU could never go through the SEC undefeated". If we smack Florida the SEC has to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. If we go in and smack scUM again, it means nothing to a national audience. No point in haveing two teams from a conference play in a bowl game, it does nothing to show how different conferences compete against eachother.

Right on. I also agree with the previous poster who said in so many words, "Follow the money."

UF will get the nod.
 
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And snubbing a team that has won its conference, played a tougher schedule by far, and has one more win than the other would be perfectly justifiable? Weak argument.

So your snubbing a team based on the fact they lost their defacto conference champion to the only undefeated team in the country? The BCS has already let in teams that did not win their conference, why should Michigan get the short end of the stick now??

Also how can you penalize a team that plays in a conference without an "official" championship game. And if Florida's SOS was so much tougher than that should be enough to bolster their points above Michigan, without the AP help.

I think your argument is weak.
 
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wolfamngstsheep;676936; said:
Florida lost to a 3 loss team and should have lost to South Carolina.

Michigan lost a close game to the #1 team in college football on the road, who has yet to lose.

If the AP puts Florida at #2 they are screwing Michigan, plain and simple. Conference champs doesn't mean shit with the BCS. Look at OU and NU. OU getting pounded by KSU by 28 didn't keep them out of the title game. Why should Michigan's loss keep them out of this one??

The AP also means "shit with the BCS". The Harris Poll and the Coaches Poll are part of the BCS rankings, but the AP poll is not.
 
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Best Buckeye;676895; said:
That would only prolong the agony of knowing who we are playing.
Let the Voters and computers decide, just as they are supposed to .


Yea, because us having to wait to see who we play is far more important than what is for the good of college football and getting the 2 best teams.:shake:

The computers and the voters always get it right...just ask Auburn.
 
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A rematch is asking for a disputed NC. If OSU wins, FL claims they would have been a better opponent. If MI wins OSU beat them in the LAST game of the season...who's the champ?
OSU-FL would be a true NATIONAL championship, and not another Big Ten game. No one outside of the Big Ten region wants a rematch, and the TV audience would reflect it.
Better for the Big Ten if OSU puts a whooping on FL, SEC champ. What a great game, too, since these two teams have never met. Look at the interest the Texas games have generated these past two years. Why? Because it pitted two powerhouse programs against each other on a national stage. Let's not regress back to pre-BCS times where every conference had a claim to being the best.
The Big Ten voters should instead consider the impact that wins by OSU in the NC, UM in the Rose Bowl, and WI in the Capital One Bowl would have on the conference, vs. diluting the value of the NC by a rematch. Those who reference the previous rematch say nothing about the havoc it wreaked on the system...it was a terrible idea then and now.
 
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