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Jeffcat
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i really dont feel like texas is going to beat USC. true USC's defense is their weakness but they are not THAT weak. i have to give some credit to fresno here while they are not the most talented team they are very efficient in how they do things offensively. i think USC/Texas will be a high scoring game but i just think USC will beat texas with pure firepower. i dont think texas will be able to efficiently pass on darnell bing and USC's secondary WHEN THEY ARE HEALTHY. that secondary right now is really beat up and they are solid. i see USC's weakness as their linebackers so texas will have to establish the running game and eat the clock because i dont think USC will honestly have a terrible time scoring on texas. should be a very unique game.
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did you watch last night's game? The Fresno QB threw FIVE ints, and still put up 42 points. That defense is awful. They are constantly out of position, and utterly refuse to wrap up (opting to try and knock the guy out the few times they are in position).
Fresno state nearly beat USC last night. If they had any sort of defense, they would have won by 14 easily. Bush truly is a once in a lifetime player, but its not a stretch at all to assume that USC' offense would struggle a lot more to move the ball on tejas, and in turn yield even more points to the most talented offense in the nation.
Sportscenter can't ruin their "greatest offense ever" mantra, yet before this week they weren't even the greatest offense ever in 2005. That honor belonged to tejas, who was averaging 2 more ppg with considerably harder opposing defenses.
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Bush is far too good to ever write off USC. However, they can only come out so many times and struggle with far inferior talent before it shows that they are quite beatable.
If Tejas was gritting out tough wins instead of blowing people away by 25-30 every game, would they get this kind of respect? I seriously doubt it.
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I think USC has a more explosive offense, but I found it pretty humorous that they weren't even the highest scoring offense this year, let alone of all time as everyone tries to tell us.
Maybe the coaching departures took defensive technique with them, but its not just about guys being out of position or inexperienced. Far too often they seem eager to make a big play or big hit, rather than playing disciplined football.
If Fresno had not thrown 5 picks, would they have given up 60 points? 70 points? Bush would have eclipsed the 800 yard mark, and probably died of exhaustion, willing his team to a 77-70 win. :tongue2:
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42 fucking points by Fresno State? Fresno State? How cocky are you again?
42 points by Fresno Fucking State. Unbelieveable. Yeah, USC is the best ever
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Jeffcat
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i have to give fresno credit not to mention USC did pick off those 5 int you know. USC has one guy in their secondary that was playing 3rd string and they were all beat up in the secondary. fresnos qb wasnt terrible he just made some poor decisions to try to get his team to score and USC's half ass secondary made the most of it. i dont see texas having any answer for USC's talented offense because its not just bush. they have a loaded weapon at every position all you can hope to do is control the time and slow them down as best as possible and hope your defense can force a turnover. when it comes down to it i cant see texas's defense stopping USC real well and i cant see texas scoring at the same level USC does offensively. young is an athlete but i wouldnt want him throwing the ball when he needs to open it up and against a healthy USC secondary. he has improved but not that improved yet.
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Jeffcat
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part of the game especially when you run them offenses. the game never really seemed in question to me in the second half. it was 2am here and reggie bush would run for 25 yd bursts like they were nothing and leinart would always pop a pass to smith or jarret. it just wasnt hard at all for USC to move the ball. in the second half fresno state moved the ball but they didnt make it look nearly as easy as USC did. i still say bush is bar none the heisman winner. i felt bad because most of the people on the east coast prolly didnt get a chance to see him play. the guy has that vision and ability that is just inhumane and unfair.
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why do people think that offering an excuse as to why something happened makes it ok? yes, USC has had lots of injuries and what not on their defense. guess what....they still have a "bad" defense. teams aren't going to say "oh that team has lost some players on D, lets not play as hard."Jeffcat said:
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what is this based on? Have you seen what Texas has done to absolutely every other team offensively? Here is their point total, 60, 25 (us), 51, 51, 45, 42, 42, 52, 47, 62, 66. Yeah, they really have trouble scoring points
their numbers are fairly comparable to USC, and they are doing so against tougher defenses. They also have barely been challenged outside of OSU.
Leinart has more yards b/c he's thrown a ton more passes. he has basically the same amount of TDs.
<table class="cnnTable cnnNoBorder" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="cnnNoBold cnnHeader"><td class="cnnLeft">Player</td> <td>ATT</td> <td>CMP</td> <td>PCT</td> <td>YDS</td> <td>TDS</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">INT</td> </tr> <tr class="cnnData1"> <td class="cnnBold cnnLeft">Leinart <!--%= player.getLastName() %--> </td> <td>351</td> <td>233</td> <td>66.4</td> <td>3217</td> <td>24</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">7</td></tr></tbody> </table> <table class="cnnTable cnnNoBorder" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="cnnData1"><td class="cnnBold cnnLeft">Young <!--%= player.getLastName() %--> </td> <td>244</td> <td>155</td> <td>63.5</td> <td>2414</td> <td>22</td> <td class="cnnEndCell">8</td></tr></tbody> </table>
There is not a single defense on USC's schedule that would be considered decent by our standards. ND has a very porous defense, and they held them in check pretty well. It wasn't just b/c the grass was too long, or weis controlled the clock. They simply were not dominant on offense.
I'd like to think if they can struggle against the ND defense which can be absolutely destroyed, there is a pretty decent chance they could do the same against one of the nation's best in Tejas.
I pray nobody brings up OU from 04. That was the most overrated team for two straight years. They gave up tons of yards and points to OkSt last year... but no pollster dared to hold that against them. And as a result, we had a repeat performance by the least worthy team to sneak into a BCS game.
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Jeffcat
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im not saying that. what im saying that 80% of their positions on defense(no exaggeration) the starters or a person they rotate in is injured. im sure they are playing hard and still do well. even with the starters the defense isnt outstanding but they get the job done good enough. its not an excuse to why they are doing really poor right now defensively it is a factual reason why. can you imagine our defense if we had 80% of our second stringers in versus a team like michigan state? USC is just really beat up now. im sure they will take this game and run with it. i dont see ucla posing too much a of a threat and then they have time to prepare and heal up for texas.
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methomps
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So it was SC's defense giving up the points, but not SC's defense making the interceptions? It's the Orange Bowl all over again.
42 fucking points by Fresno State? Fresno State? How cocky are you again?
42 points by Fresno Fucking State. Unbelieveable. Yeah, USC is the best ever
I welcome you to point out anywhere where I've said USC has the best anything of all-time. I'm simply inquiring into how many points people are willing to give me for a bet. Winner gets to choose loser's sig and avatar for 3 months (or the entire offseason even).
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