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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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8/27/06

OSU football fans taking over Austin for Texas game


By John Maher
Cox News Service


Sunday, August 27, 2006


AUSTIN, Texas — Ohio State has been allotted just 4,000 tickets to sell to its football fans for the Sept. 9 showdown against the Texas Longhorns, but there'll be far more people wearing scarlet and gray in Austin that weekend.
"We're projecting 35,000 or 40,000 people," said Bruce Brandel, vice president of the Austin chapter of the Ohio State Alumni Association.
Fans of the No. 1-ranked Buckeyes plan to take over the University of Texas' 16,000-seat basketball arena, go partying at Stubbs (well-known for its barbeque and music), cruise on the boat tours and try some pub crawls.
"It's not uncommon for fans to just want to be where the team and other fans are, especially when it's a big game, out of state, against a highly ranked opponent," Brandel said. "People will treat it like a minivacation."
Most of them probably won't even get into the stadium for the game — a rematch of two of college football's top-five teams that is being touted as an early barometer on the national championship race.
"You'll probably have 10,000 people coming down hoping to get a ticket at the last minute," said Randy Cohen, owner of Ticket City.
Actually, their aim is to turn Austin into a slice of Columbus, at least for one weekend.
On game day in Columbus, one of the highlights is the Skull Session for the Ohio State band — a combination dress rehearsal/pep rally held a few blocks from the stadium at St. John Arena.
Hmm ... the Erwin Center, where the Longhorns play basketball, is a few blocks away from Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium.
So, for $10,000, the Ohio State Alumni Association has rented the Erwin Center for an afternoon pregame party Sept. 9.
Erwin Center director John Graham said some other visiting schools have rented a part of the building, but he can't remember anyone ever taking the whole place.
"We'll play for our alumni and friends and then march over to the stadium," said Ohio State band director Jon R. Woods, who is bringing his entire 225-piece ensemble.
In Columbus, about the only pregame tradition better than the Skull Session is the partying at the Varsity Club, which on game days has a big outdoor lot packed with beer drinkers.
Hmm ... Stubbs has a big outdoor amphitheater.
So, with some help from the Varsity Club, the Buckeyes have lined up Stubbs, the combination barbecue joint and music venue on Red River Street, for Friday night and Saturday.
"It'll be just like being at the VC," the Austin alumni chapter's Web site urges.
The Stubbs hub will serve as sort of a staging area for Buckeyes. They'll leave there for the Erwin Center, then go to the game.
Well, at least some of them will head to the game. They have been calling ticket agencies here, but many will find themselves priced out of the market.
"They're pretty frugal, but they'll pay when they have to," said Cohen, who hinted at $1,000 tickets. "These are the two biggest-spending sports schools on the planet. ... This is the World Cup of football."
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8/27/06

Texas tells its supporters: Don’t mess with OSU fans

Sunday, August 27, 2006

John Kelso
AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN




AUSTIN, Texas — Please do not taunt, tease, insult, fold, spindle, mutilate or otherwise mess with the Ohio State fans who are coming to Austin to visit next month.
Be cordial. Do not point out that Ohio is a four-letter word.
That’s the message coming out of the University of Texas, which has started a campaign to get fans to behave this season. I suspect this is happening because Texas wants to keep September’s game against OSU a fracas-free occasion.
See, at last year’s game in Columbus, there were reports of Texas fans being verbally abused and shoved around. It was so bad that Ohio State officials apologized for the boorish behavior.
So Texas has begun a drive to make sure Texas boosters don’t reciprocate and try to out-ugly Ohio State when their fans come to Austin.
Texas is doing the right thing. These Ohio folk will be our guests. So don’t say rude things like, "So, I hear all the money and class is over at Michigan; any truth to that? " Or, "John Glenn: I hear tell he went to outer space just to get out of Ohio."
Show some manners. Show some Texas friendly. After all, these people deserve our sympathy. Ohio is so pathetic that the big cow sculpted out of butter at their state fair is made from a ton of butter that comes from Texas.
The reason? They say it’s because butter sculptures require unsalted butter, and Ohio doesn’t produce it. But I figure it’s because Ohioans are too stupid to churn.
Besides, there’s really no reason to be less than gracious to the Ohio State people when they get here.
Tormenting these people would be like George W. Bush invading Iraq: picking on the wrong people. The mouth breathers who started the trouble up at Ohio State won’t have the money to fly to Austin to come to the game. They’ll be back home in their trailers watching Jerry Springer. Or, they’ll be appearing on Jerry Springer. The Ohio State fans who make the trip will be the wealthy alumni. What fun is it to set off some old Midwestern creaker’s pacemaker? So show these people some class. Take them to a tailgate party. And puhleeze, no Cleveland jokes, OK?
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And you think colt and texas will go undefeated???
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Texas should be favored over every team on our schedule. (The oddsmakers and betters may be off with their analysis, but that's not my problem.) However, the difference between a 2 loss and undefeated season always involves some luck. I have no idea if we will be lucky enough to win those games where things just don't go right.

I do feel that the improvement in the defense can compensate for the loss of the Vince factor. The old saying is true, the opponent can't win if they can't score. I feel good about our chances of going undefeated, it's probably 10% or a little more, about the best that anyone can statistically expect when playing in a good conference.

Normally at Texas we say wait until we see where we are at after OU before talking undefeated seasons. The odds go way up when that is the case. I will wait and see before getting too excited.
 
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The odds of going undefeated two years in a row are irrelevant.

The odds right now of Texas going undefeated two years in a row is identical to going undefeated one year.

Having heads one time you flip the coin does not influence what happens next time.
 
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xrayrandy said:
The odds of going undefeated two years in a row are irrelevant.

The odds right now of Texas going undefeated two years in a row is identical to going undefeated one year.

Having heads one time you flip the coin does not influence what happens next time.
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It appears your hypocrisy knows no bounds. If all those stats you always have are relevant to this year, how can you possibly say this?
 
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Bucks07 said:
It appears your hypocrisy knows no bounds. If all those stats you always have are relevant to this year, how can you possibly say this?
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Well, looking at it from the point of view of someone who managed to avoid stat class until grad school... Texas has their toughest game of the year in week two and it's at home, against a team they beat despite being outplayed for at least half the game, against a team that lost nine members of its defense from last year... At the same time their (Texas) defense looked very good last year, containing Troy Smith and Matt Leinhart, Tedd Ginn and Reggie Bush enough to win... they have the kind of corners and safeties that can play havoc with a passing game... and then go into a Big Twelve schedule that looks to me to be very doable... they play Oklahoma at home (don't give me that "Dallas is a neutral site BS"), Colorado, Nebraska, Texas Tech... maybe A&M comes back, but it looks like a mediocre year for the rest of the conference... I'd be pretty damn confident too if I were a Texas fan.
 
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cincibuck said:
Well, looking at it from the point of view of someone who managed to avoid stat class until grad school... Texas has their toughest game of the year in week two and it's at home, against a team they beat despite being outplayed for at least half the game, against a team that lost nine members of its defense from last year... At the same time their (Texas) defense looked very good last year, containing Troy Smith and Matt Leinhart, Tedd Ginn and Reggie Bush enough to win... they have the kind of corners and safeties that can play havoc with a passing game... and then go into a Big Twelve schedule that looks to me to be very doable... they play Oklahoma at home (don't give me that "Dallas is a neutral site BS"), Colorado, Nebraska, Texas Tech... maybe A&M comes back, but it looks like a mediocre year for the rest of the conference... I'd be pretty damn confident too if I were a Texas fan.
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Yeah they have plenty to be confident about but that wasnt really the point. The point is randy likes to use past stats as a predictor for the future, but now that the stats say its likely Texas will lose somewhere and not repeat as champs, they're irrelevant.
 
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Bucks07 said:
Yeah they have plenty to be confident about but that wasnt really the point. The point is randy likes to use past stats as a predictor for the future, but now that the stats say its likely Texas will lose somewhere and not repeat as champs, they're irrelevant.
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Fans are fans... Fans see what they want to see, ignore what they don't want to know. You don't expect him to use stats to show how Texas will not be able to repeat do you? It's all irrelevant from a fan's mindset. If he were a bookie he'd have to look at things differently...

If they get by game 2, and I think that's a 50/50 shot, it looks to me like they coast until January. By then their QB situation will be settled and the team will have matured. They probably face Michigan, Notre Dame or Penn State in the NCG. (I don't think anyone wants to see a rematch except the team that lost) Like I said, if I were a Texas fan, I'd be an optomist too.
 
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I think Pittman will have a more solid year this year. If the passing game cant get going i think the running game will take over. Last year was still pretty good yardage wise and the TDs didnt come until late in the season (Minnesota game i think was his first.)

If he does get injured its always good to know we have 2 star RBs ready to fill in.
 
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cincibuck said:
Fans are fans... Fans see what they want to see, ignore what they don't want to know. You don't expect him to use stats to show how Texas will not be able to repeat do you? It's all irrelevant from a fan's mindset. If he were a bookie he'd have to look at things differently...

If they get by game 2, and I think that's a 50/50 shot, it looks to me like they coast until January. By then their QB situation will be settled and the team will have matured. They probably face Michigan, Notre Dame or Penn State in the NCG. (I don't think anyone wants to see a rematch except the team that lost) Like I said, if I were a Texas fan, I'd be an optomist too.
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I agree, except for who they probably face in the NCG, although thats not for this thread. If I were a Texas fan I'd feel pretty good as well, but almost every champ has good reason to feel pretty good about their chances for the next season, and it doesnt work out too often.
 
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