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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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RugbyBuck said:
What happened and why? I’ve been there and seen it happen the last few years, but I don’t know the proximate cause. How did we go from an aggressive, tempo, lethal offense to this? Why? Why did he change? Why can’t he get out of his own way? Even with Stroud we still had a clunky, unreliable offense that wasn’t allowed to play until the uga game and his play calling and game management fucked that up.

I don’t know the specific catalyst, maybe no one does, but it’s clear that he lost his fastball and coaches like he’s sitting in a foxhole crapping himself or against the ropes getting pummeled. He’s just not the guy. At one point we thought he might be and then we were so invested that we hoped he would become that guy. Jax is right, if he was, we’d already know. Instead, I think it’s time to admit that he’s not.
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I think he needs to give up play calling. We don't know how he is as a game manager, because he is balancing multiple things. I think the clunkiness is Day not being able to simultaneously pick the correct play, while also considering the bigger picture. Also, I am wondering if he has difficulty scheming up a game if he is doing the multitude of other things a HC has to do on a daily and weekly basis.

It's time for him to give up play calling.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I think he needs to give up play calling. We don't know how is as a game manager, because he is balancing multiple things. I think the clunkiness is Day not being able to simultaneously pick the correct play, while also considering the bigger picture. Also, I am wondering if he has difficulty scheming up a game if he is doing the multitude of other things a HC has to do on a daily and weekly basis.

It's time for him to give up play calling.
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Should’ve happened after last season. We’ll see if he can put aside whatever it is that keeps him from making this change this offseason.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I think he needs to give up play calling. We don't know how is as a game manager, because he is balancing multiple things. I think the clunkiness is Day not being able to simultaneously pick the correct play, while also considering the bigger picture. Also, I am wondering if he has difficulty scheming up a game if he is doing the multitude of other things a HC has to do on a daily and weekly basis.

It's time for him to give up play calling.
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I can't imagine Day being just a general overseer type. He's there because he (and Wilson) did a nice job running the offense and because he seemed to maybe be a QB whisperer. I'm not even impressed with his in-game management. We drive to the opponent's 32 yard line, okay good enough, just leave the ball all the way over on the left hashmark (e.g., UGA, scUM, Mizzou), time to roll the dice and try a field goal. I just don't see much virtue in his HC'ing.
 
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gmen6981 said:
But in today's landscape of College Athletics having to deal with TV revenue and contracts, Title IX and all the other fun things that go with the job at a school as big as OSU, and wading through it's bureaucracy, An AD really needs to be BOTH.
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Ideally yes
But we've gone too far down 1 track and it's time for a course correction.
We have a ton of players active in media. An NFL head coach has similar media responsibilities. Has to gladhand with owners and GMs.
There's some nuanced differences, but the idea that an athlete/coach can't do these things - only a bureaucrat - is exactly what id expect from a bureaucrat in the civil service.
 
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kujirakira said:
Ideally yes
But we've gone too far down 1 track and it's time for a course correction.
We have a ton of players active in media. An NFL head coach has similar media responsibilities. Has to gladhand with owners and GMs.
There's some nuanced differences, but the idea that an athlete/coach can't do these things - only a bureaucrat - is exactly what id expect from a bureaucrat in the civil service.
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Herbie? :pimp:
 
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heisman said:
Has OSU ever had an AD with business experience? Geiger was a rower and Mean Gene was a football player. It’s an administrative position. The Dave Brandon’s of the world, just never work out.
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Both started out as coaches in their respective sports but then took entry level positions in administration, learned the ropes, were probably mentored by more experienced officials, became assistant AD's, then AD's at smaller universities and then AD's at other major universities before being handed the reigns to Ohio State. Each had multiple stops to learn the job or to prove themselves incompetent before being given the keys to the largest AD in the country. That's a far different trajectory than simply plucking some guy off the sideline and saying, "have it Hoss."

In any event, the whole discussion is ridiculous. Neither Vrabel or Spielman are going to be considered for the job, and in the case of Vrabel, I doubt he wants it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Both started out as coaches in their respective sports but then took entry level positions in administration, learned the ropes, were probably mentored by more experienced officials, became assistant AD's, then AD's at smaller universities and then AD's at other major universities before being handed the reigns to Ohio State. Each had multiple stops to learn the job or to prove themselves incompetent before being given the keys to the largest AD in the country. That's a far different trajectory than simply plucking some guy off the sideline and saying, "have it Hoss."

In any event, the whole discussion is ridiculous. Neither Vrabel or Spielman are going to be considered for the job, and in the case of Vrabel, I doubt he wants it.
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Agreed. I think people want someone who is creative, and unfortunately, that’s the antithesis of the job requirements. It’s not the AD that’s going to drive a true NIL model. In fact, OSU‘s business model directly competes with their student athletes‘ business model (charitable donations), so the AD is probably the last person that’s going to drive change that directly conflicts with his employer’s business model.
 
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