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Is it time to be over ESPN?

Steve19

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In another thread, Mili suggested that perhaps it is time to start getting over ESPN. In the interest of starting a wide discussion, I am starting this thread in the main OSU football forum and I am going to try to start it in a balanced and factual way.


There is no need to review that reasons why Buckeyes everywhere felt disappointment, anger, and disgust toward ESPN as a result of their coverage of the Clarett allegations and subsequent matters. Nor is it necessary to mention the lifelong consequences of some of these actions for people like Andy Geiger. These events we all know and understand.

During recent months, beginning with the run-up to the Texas game, ESPN has appeared to be trying to build bridges to the Buckeye Nation.

For many of us, the price of normal relations was an outright apology and some ESPN personalities apparently came close to that on-air this summer. Gene Smith, however, accepted their overtures when he opened direct relations with ESPN and a new relationship began to be built.

Perhaps in an unrelated matter, perhaps not, Trev Alberts began to feel less appreciated at ESPN. This culminated in the firing of one of the announcers who besmirched Ohio State at every opportunity and attacked the team, its adminstrators and its coaches in such a disgusting manner during the Alamo Bowl this year. Mark May, the other announcer, seems far more balanced in his comments.

During this football season, ESPN has telecast almost every Ohio State game on GamePlan, perhaps more than any other team, and have done things that seem intended to build revenues and brand strength for Ohio State. It and ABC have been positive about Ohio State sports in almost every respect. It has given scant coverage to a few minor transgressions at OSU that might have once filled pages, virtually ignored the matters that Gene Smith left behind in Arizona, and otherwise acted in a supportive and friendly matter to Ohio State.

This is not to say that there has been a revolution of great journalism breaking out at ESPN. In many ways, ESPN has become the tabloid of sports broadcasting. It has reduced sports to commodity, brought poker and NASCAR the same coverage as major sports and pioneered "screaming match" as program content.

In defense of ESPN, these programs are successful and must reflect viewer interests or these would not run.

It also doesn't mean that ESPN has decided to make nice with college sports or turn a blind eye to problems. Other coaches and teams who now feel ESPN breathing down their necks with sensationalistic press are now saying some of things we all once said.

However, this does not cloud the present situation. ESPN appears to be the major sports broadcaster it has emerged as the multinational power and it is the most likely leader into pay per view, games on demand and many other elements of the future. It appears to be mending fences with Ohio State.

How do we feel about this? Is it time to drop "ESPiN" and allow ESPN to mend fences? Is it time to start getting over what they did to Ohio State?
 
Well... it's not as if it's unprecedented for a TV station to air a story before double/triple/quadruple checking and then hiring an independent team for their own report just to make sure they got it right.

So yes.

But seriously, I never really faulted them as much as most. It's definitely not like it's a news station's job to investigate the truth behind criminal allegations, they just report the stories as people (MoC) give them. I'd put most of the onus on the MoC, and Tom Friend for being such a pompous douche.

I think the lack of punishment handed down to the program proved who was right in the long run.
 
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Espn is still a bunch of cocksuckers IMO. Whatever "love" they've shown us is like that girlfriend that tears up everytime you get in a fight...phony!! But hey, I'm a dickhead and I hold a grudge...:biggrin:
 
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I don't think I'll ever be able to get over what espin did to Ohio State. The crap with Howard and Nick Simpson before the Texas game only served to reinforce the fact that someone at espin has a real hard on for Ohio State.

They went out of their way for MONTHS to drag our program and school through the mud at every opportunity.

I remind people again of the headline about the Ohio State women's basketball team allegedly getting improper benefits (dental treatments??) appearing on the college football page of espin.com.

For months they ran with a story that was not based in fact. They (Herbstreit included) spent the pre-game, the second quarter, and half-time of a nationally televised bowl game running Ohio State into the ground. They cost Ohio State at least one recruit. They allowed their on air analysts to publicly call for the jobs of Jim Tressel and Andy Geiger without a shred of actual proof of any wrongdoing. I understand that Troy Smith gave legs to their story, but where was the reporting of Ohio State being found guilty of exactly ONE infraction by ONE player?? Where was the story about the NCAA finding ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with regard to the Clarett accusations? I don't know how any Ohio State fan could ever forgive OR forget what espin has done to Ohio State.

EDIT FUCK ESPN!
 
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Great post Steve. I actually never held a grudge toward them. However, I have a great distaste for the media in general, and seeing as how I care more about Buckeye football than most other news, my main source of news about my most passionate intrest came from espn.

The medias job is to report the news. these days, almost all media has an obvious bias, one way or the other. When espn stops sensationalizing news, and starts reporting it, everyone will be better off. But, unfortunately, that will never happen. I grew up on espn. I even recorded sportscenter when the bucks went to the final four. These days, i find very little news, and way to much opinion. that is the reason I stay away from espn, and except for buckeye games, probably always will.
 
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EDIT FUCK ESPN!

ysubuck has it right. ESPN can't buy back buckeye nation love by showing our games or pimping our program. They will never have my respect until they run a segment on Sportscenter or Gameday about how they "got it wrong" with regards to JT's program. ( I am not holding my breath on this one ) So for me ESPN will get my eyes for OSU games or games of national interest, and that is all. It sure does help that the rest of their programming sucks anyway.
 
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During recent months, beginning with the run-up to the Texas game, ESPN has appeared to be trying to build bridges to the Buckeye Nation.

I agree with most of what you said, except I don't entirely agree with what I quoted you as saying. Do you remember ESPN's Nick Lachey and Desmond Howard singing the scUM fight song from the top of the Shoe? That's not exactly what I would call building bridges.
 
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I agree with most of what you said, except I don't entirely agree with what I quoted you as saying. Do you remember ESPN's Nick Lachey and Desmond Howard singing the scUM fight song from the top of the Shoe? That's not exactly what I would call building bridges.


My thoughts exactly. However, I have a different view. How can we allow that. Why would the AD and The University President allow that?

So may be if they play our fight song during scUM game...then we can call building bridges and look for a fresh start.
 
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I view ESPN no differently than CNN, MSNBC or Fox News. They all have an agenda that changes from time to time, but it's always there. I want to bitchslap whoever at ESPN was responsible for the idea of moaning that horrible noise from our stadium, but not as much as I want to bitchslap the AD and THE HOLE.
 
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I'm not particularly enamored with ESPN, but then (much like BSinGA says above), the media as a whole is pretty slimy. I view them as I would a pack of starving hyenas: desperate, vicious, and ruthless. These people make a living by invading the privacy of others (see Kenny Rogers) to satiate the general populace's ever-growing need to 'peep'. I don't blame them for it any more than I blame a used car salesman for being smarmy and lying through his fucking teeth. It's a racket, and I treat it as such.
 
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I could care less about ESPN and whether the Buckeye world is supposed to love or hate them. I have come to the realization that ESPN is nothing more than an entertainment channel. Other than checking scores and watching games the only program I watch on ESPN is College Gameday. To me their talking heads are slowly going the level of Jerry Springer - more noise than substance.
 
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I agree with most of what you said, except I don't entirely agree with what I quoted you as saying. Do you remember ESPN's Nick Lachey and Desmond Howard singing the scUM fight song from the top of the Shoe? That's not exactly what I would call building bridges.

great post..

thats one of the biggest things i have going with espn right now..

i mean seriously..how in the world do you even think of that?? and what in the world is nick lachey an analyst for anyway??

but i will admit this, ive heard more credit from espn this year than i have in a long time. i think it was may, i cant remember for sure, but he was discussing how different things would be if we would have not lost to penn state, then he said how different things would be if we had not lost at all this season..they were discussing the fact that we would be givin USC a run for #1, if not overtake them in the polls for #1.

and everyone else on the ESPN crew has kinda changed ways as well. You can hear it when the discuss the games, they've totally recognized the offense as a weapon, they've totally realized that this offense is capable of putting up big numbers, and they still realize that the "D" is one of the best in the land..

so overall, id really have to say im impressed with the way ESPN has been conducting themselves lately. Its definitely gotten better over the past years..
 
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Look....There were allegations...that's a big story. They just reported what Clarett said...and we're biased agasint Ohio State at that time. That's not unlike many other news agencies. FoxNews, CBS, CNN...they've all done it. It's a TV channel. It's all about ratings. I except that. They aren't going to just stick to facts, they are going to also try to pull viewers in.

Sure it made me angry what happened with ESPN. And I didn't watch or have anything to do with it for a time...but that Clarett and alegation stuff didn't piss me off as much as something else they did...

Let Nick LaGay and Desmond Homo sing hail to the victors on top of Ohio Stadium. Do that in Ann Arbor...not here. They should at least sing Carmen Ohio on top of michigan stadium. That was disgusting. I was at gameday...didn't know what was going on. I'm still pissed.
 
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