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Jarrett Guarantano (QB Tennessee, transfer to Washington State)

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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
IDK if I'd go that far. Because if that were true you would not see UK in basketball be as dominant as they are now or Alabama (and hopefully OSU now) be dominant in football. I suppose I see your point specifically for QB since most other positions you can get action for 2-3 years and at QB it could be closer to 1-2 years, but I still don't see a place like Alabama or UK struggling to stockpile talent and tell them "wait your turn, win a couple championships, then win some more as a starter."
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For all the talk of UK's "dominance", they've won only one title, that's not dominance, that's just a bunch of make believe recruiting titles. The leading MVP candidates for the NBA this year are alums from Davidson, Arizona St and UCLA, only one of those is a known basketball commodity. And as as JG goes, since only 1 QB can play at time, that makes the situation unique, since we can't and shouldn't rotate QBs. I don't see the staff being able to convince JG to come and step into a QB situation where he could MAYBE start 1yr in 5yrs, as opposed to going to Rutgers, possibly start from day 1 and actually play. Regardless if the line is there like @billlucas said, he will still be playing and not sitting, and the NFL will find the talented prospects and be able to tell that they had little around them. A QB from Delaware played a QB from Nevada a few years ago in the super bowl, I doubt either of them had half the talent OSU has. A former NC state(and Wisky) QB led a team to 2 straight super bowls and won 1. Going to a major school is what fans think means is an easier way to get to the NFL, but sitting on the bench doesn't help your prospects, playing does. We should've seen this happening though, our depth at QB was going to work against us, it's a good problem. But IMO, just because there is a ton of shiny toys at OSU isn't going to lure him to us to ride the bench for a few years, as opposed to being to play in front of friends and family, and actually play and be the face of the program
 
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Cardale was extremely fortunate to see the field.

Also, those who follow recruiting will tell you that top qbs are often very focused on playing time, more than most positions. This makes sense as you rarely split reps as a starter or contribute as a backup at qb.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Desoto 2 looks like a good back up but when people compare both players and say they are fairly equal......I don't see it. JG looks like a total superstar in the making to me. Kid just jumps off the screen to me. I wanted DeShaun Watson pretty bad too but at this point I'd say JG is the most coveted QB recruit for me in quite a while.
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Kyle Allen was right there with Watson but hey, it is just splitting hairs because both look like they will be superstars. But I agree, JG is far and away the QB I want in this class (as it appears Haskins will not happen). I know the staff is knocking down the door and while I hope we get him, I cannot fault him for staying home. Now if he goes to Tennessee or elsewhere, not so much.
 
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I hear what you're saying and, yes UK has had a heck of a run outside of their NIT year. But to get back on track, basketball isn't football, as Cal can find ways for so many great HS talents to see the field. At QB its very hard, and a QB of his talent will want to see the field is all I'm saying. He has a better opportunity at Rutgers and even Tenn. And I've even seen somewhere that Tenn could be the leader now, due to Butch Jones being the QB GA at Rutgers when JG's father played at Rutgers... Something to keep an eye on. I hope his visit to OSU materializes and Urban makes a great pitch for him

UpNorth_Buckeye said:
In the 6 years since Calipari has taken over he has reached the Elite 8, Final 4, won it all, lost in the final, and is now on track to most likely win it all again. that's 5/6 phenomenal years. Unless you don't really follow college basketball and only count NC's as the lone criteria for dominance, one should consider that dominating. Otherwise we should consider OSU basketball as a complete and utter joke. And OSU under Tressell? Ehh. Kinda pathetic IMO. I know you didn't call OSU basketball/football dominating, but IMO you can't look only at NCs. Particularly in basketball with the tournament. We'll never see the days of UCLA with Wooden in men's basketball ever again.
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Everyone talking about whether starting for 3 years at a smaller school or starting 1 on national television is more important to being recruited. I'd say the most important part is finding a QB coach that developed talent and OC that schemes to put you in the positions that highlight your skills and mask your weaknesses. Last year Herman seals the deal. Now we have a qb coach that is new to the program. Still have urban helping to form the offense and I'm sure he spends a lot of time with the qbs but the coach that worked wonders with JT and cardale in short time is gone. I would venture to guess that we still have the better qb coach but that has not been proven.
 
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What will be interesting to watch is if Wallace wants to commit on the spot this weekend. I don't think he would, but if he's blown away and ends up wanting to. That's a tough spot but I say you have to take him. Unless you're able to convince him to wait 2 weeks.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Everyone talking about whether starting for 3 years at a smaller school or starting 1 on national television is more important to being recruited. I'd say the most important part is finding a QB coach that developed talent and OC that schemes to put you in the positions that highlight your skills and mask your weaknesses. Last year Herman seals the deal. Now we have a qb coach that is new to the program. Still have urban helping to form the offense and I'm sure he spends a lot of time with the qbs but the coach that worked wonders with JT and cardale in short time is gone. I would venture to guess that we still have the better qb coach but that has not been proven.
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A D1 QB coach is still of high quality and if a QB works hard enough on the field and in the film room he could make it to the NFL regardless of his position coachs credentials. I would still think a kid would actually want to actually play in games, and not spend time with his position coach on the bench. And I'm sure Tenn and Rutgers would scheme to his strengths as well. I would be non happier than for JG to be our QB for the 2016 class, but playing time could be a very big factor. Our visit could go a long way in bridging that gap.
 
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