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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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Hi. As my name implies I am not a Buckeye but I just wanted to put in my two cents here. I respect Tressel for being loyal to his players. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to your school or anything but I wish the your institution would have stood by your coach in this situation. After everything he has accomplished and how much respect he has earned he deserved better. I hope your program doesn't suffer too much. It was ridiculous what happened to SMU. Good luck, next year.


PS


GO UTES!!!
 
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CookyPuss;1930797; said:
Tressel is not gone because of the kids or the media. He is gone because the school thinks this will somehow mitigate the NCAA sanctions to come. If we get thesame as USC or worse, than the whole "self reporting" thing is a crock. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Which version do you believe?

Jim Tressel is gone because of bad ethics. He violated NCAA rules that he agreed to uphold and then lied about it. He did what he did because he selfishly wanted to win a national championship and wasn't going to let nickels and dimes get in the way.

Jim Tressel is gone because of good ethics. He did not delete the emails that provided a trail to the offense, which he could have done. He did what he did because he thought he could save one or more young men.

Whichever version you believe, there is a lesson for everyone in the downfall of Jim Tressel. The right reasons will never protect your career, if you do the wrong things. Practice good ethics at ALL times.
 
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OT a bit I suppose, but the Cleveland media last night was basically postulating that Tressel would take a year off and then go coach somewhere else...I am just not seeing that one, I think he is retired for good, at least from college football. It's not like he needs the money.
 
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Bucklion;1930850; said:
OT a bit I suppose, but the Cleveland media last night was basically postulating that Tressel would take a year off and then go coach somewhere else...I am just not seeing that one, I think he is retired for good, at least from college football. It's not like he needs the money.
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I also don't see him coaching college football again, not at the 1-A/FBS level anyway.

But I think he will try to do something where he can help shape the lives of young people. I could see him as a professor somewhere, or being a football coach at a lower level - I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up coaching high school football somewhere in Ohio.
 
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I can't believe I went the whole weekend, a portion of it being here on this board, without knowing anything of this. I found out watching the local news since aside from college football season I rarely watch sports. I knew of the investigation and allegations but I dismissed it all as off season gossip news filler, I thought the consequences had already been faced (the suspensions).
I'm still a bit stunned. If anything this should make us all realize that however stressful and at times difficult we think our jobs can be, imagine being in this guy's shoes, having to (or more like expected to) run a winning program at a top university and having to try to fit it all into a 24 hour day each day. What head coaches deal with is beyond my comprehension and I could never criticize anyone who does that job (except Lane Kiffen). It would be easy to look back at all the evidence and point out what he should've or should not have done and when he should of done and all but I think we'd all be better served by the greater lesson here which is if it can happen to a man of his honor and integrity, it could happen to anyone. I wish the man the best of luck and I'm sure he'll get passed this as will the program.
It would be easy to point the finger at the kids too and say they let him down but the keyword is kids. I'm sure that many involved now regret the decision that they made, others will come to regret it as they mature and others will never give a flying fuck.
Well that's it for me, I'd better STHU
 
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I've had a night to sleep on it, so hopefully this won't be too "wordy".

The situation and how everything keeps revolving through the news is sickening. It's not like the SI story actually uncovered anything new. That's not to excuse anything, but I think there is such a think as overkill. As a side note, this should show everyone how much the Ohio State brand name is envied by those outside of the program.

Tressel is a good man. An honest man. It's been said that he was doing this all for "winning" as if he was the head coach from Varsity Blues or something. Ohio State became a football monster under this man. Yes he made mistakes, some grave enough to cost him his job, but that isn't where I'm going with this comment.

There comes a time as a leader when you realize that your actions (or, specifically your LACK of actions) are causing the ship/unit/system/program to become stagnant and/or simply broken. This was the path we were heading down as this situation continued to build and the pressure put upon not only the University at large but a group of 18-22 year olds. For whatever reason, every single "revelation" that was beyond JT's not reporting the emails became his issue. At that point, since his leadership of the program was drawing more negative attention to the University, the time was right and I think he knew it.

The more cynical of us will say he was forced out and there were likely those that wanted him out immediately, but I think the timing of this resignation had a lot to do with the man himself owning up to the situation and removing himself as a possible cause of further grief.

Ohio State didn't just lose a football coach, it lost a legend. He kicked Michigan's ass back to the early 1900s, he won a MNC against a supposedly "unbeatable" team, and he was a handful of plays from playing in 2 other MNCs beyond the two he lost. I don't pretend to know who the next head coach will be, but that will damned near be impossible to go beyond in terms of absolute success.

I still stand with Tressel, simply because I know if I were having issues and had a chance to talk with him, he would give some advice and stand with me. He did it with MoC, he did it with Smith, he did it with Ray Small and he's done it with TP, et. al. It was his downfall, but I don't think he would do anything different.

I'm too young to remember Woody leaving, but I vaguely remember Earle Bruce and I grew up during the Cooper years. This has been easily the best decade of football I've ever witnessed. Football is a team sport, but one man put it together. Thank you for the memories coach.
 
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BB73;1930863; said:
I also don't see him coaching college football again, not at the 1-A/FBS level anyway.

But I think he will try to do something where he can help shape the lives of young people. I could see him as a professor somewhere, or being a football coach at a lower level - I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up coaching high school football somewhere in Ohio.
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I wonder if Baldwin Wallace would have an opening?
 
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Steve19;1930846; said:
Which version do you believe?

Jim Tressel is gone because of bad ethics. He violated NCAA rules that he agreed to uphold and then lied about it. He did what he did because he selfishly wanted to win a national championship and wasn't going to let nickels and dimes get in the way.

Jim Tressel is gone because of good ethics. He did not delete the emails that provided a trail to the offense, which he could have done. He did what he did because he thought he could save one or more young men.

Whichever version you believe, there is a lesson for everyone in the downfall of Jim Tressel. The right reasons will never protect your career, if you do the wrong things. Practice good ethics at ALL times.
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I was commenting more on the university situation than Tressel specifically. I agree with everything you just said. JT should have disclosed,no doubt. My point is if the university cooperates with the investigation and fires its beloved coach and still gets the hammer... what was the point? How does this encourage others to self report?
 
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alexhortdog95;1930800; said:
If TP keeps showing up with cars, you guys will get a USC type punishment. I'm just in disbelief and dumfounded that he'd do something so stupid as to show up at a a team meeting where he's going to find out his head coach is gone partly because of some bad decisions he made....in a new ride.
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If TP keeps showing up with cars he better not play another down at Ohio State.


But I love how the media is trying to say we will get a USC type punishment. I just don't see it. We reported the initial Tattoo stuff to the NCAA, we reported to the NCAA when they found the Tressel emails, we report basically everything under the sun to the NCAA. They also cooperate fully with the NCAA. And in essence Tressel was forced to resign.

Really the WHOLE reason we are in this mess is because we DO have a huge compliance department and report as much as they can. If we were any other school those Tressel emails never see the light of day.

I really think/hope the NCAA appreciates that.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1930889; said:
Tressel is a good man. An honest man. It's been said that he was doing this all for "winning" as if he was the head coach from Varsity Blues or something. Ohio State became a football monster under this man. Yes he made mistakes, some grave enough to cost him his job, but that isn't where I'm going with this comment.
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This is what has bothered me about the whole thing. I still cannot for the life of me put a finger on why JT failed to disclose. Something does not add up, but I am not sure what it is. First, he knew it was going to come out eventually and he said as much. I do not buy the media narrative that he did not want to ruin a possible national championship run. That does not make sense either. As much of a priority as that is, I still think Tressel knows there are more important things in life than just winning. I am not saying it was not a factor, I just do not buy it as the major motivating force. I also do not buy that he did not think about the violation aspect of it because he was focused on the player safety/drug issue. That does not pass the smell test. The only plausible scenario I can come up with is that he consulted with an attorney who advised him that he could not take unsubstantiated allegations forward. He could confront the players, but if they denied, he could not do anything about it. JT confronts the players, but they deny. Nah, that does not make sense either. Maybe he just figured he was fucked no matter what, so what the hell... Most likely, it was a mix of all of these things and maybe the man himself does not even know why he chose this particular course of action. Human motivation is seldom as simple as we would like it to be.
 
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Yesterday morning to me was like going into the doctor's office knowing that some surgery might be around the corner, only to find out that they had to amputate my leg that day! Then, after surgery, the doctor tells me, we found some more problems and the other leg has to go as well.

I remain numb and in shock over the great loss I (we) have just suffered.

Jim Tressel was and always will be my favorite football coach of all-time. To me, he was the Best. Coach. Ever. The only other coach that I respected as much as him was Tom Osborne. The two are in a class of their own as far as I'm concerned.

I have been a die hard Buckeye fan for over 40 years and this is easily the saddest week of my fan as a Buckeye. Worst than even all the losses to scUM during the Coop years. At least then I could always look forward to next year. In this case, however, I will most likely never see Jim Tressel on the sidelines again. And certainly not in scarlet and gray.

Yes, I will continue to root for my beloved Bucks with a fierce passion. And yes, I will support Luke Fickell as our new HC. But, somewhere, deep inside my heart, things will never quite be the same because of the way things came down with JT.

As much as I loved Woody, I understood and agreed with his dismissal. This? Not so much. Yesterday was not a good day for College Football. Nor was it a good day for tOSU, despite the circumstances surrounding the football program.

Time and change indeed...

:osu:
 
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