Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

[bukIpower]

ohhhh I haven't been following Urban at all... I don't really care for the guy. Another thing I'd have to say is I can't believe how much Jim Tressel and Other coaches travel. They sure must be glad when recruiting season is over just to have that temporary break...

 

[osugrad21]

Canton

Tressel to speak at HOF Luncheon Club
Monday, February 11, 2008


CANTON TWP. Ohio State football Head Coach Jim Tressel will speak today at the Pro Football Hall of Fame Luncheon Club.

Tressel recently wrapped up his eighth season as Buckeyes head coach, taking the team to its third national title game in six years. Tressel's father, Lee, was the head football coach at Massillon during the 1950s. The club meets each Monday at Tozzi's on 12th at 4210 12th St. Lunch begins at 11 a.m., with programs from 12:10 to 1 p.m. Meals are $12 for members and $22 for guests.

 

[BB73]

Tressel recently wrapped up his eighth season as Buckeyes head coach, taking the team to its third national title game in six years.

I can only remember 7 seasons with JT at the helm.

But since the first one was on 2001, the second in 2002, etc., it's very hard for sportswriters and editors to determine which season it would have been in 2007.

 

[HailToMichigan]

So, if Ohio State is not really ready to play this as their game of the year, then he will win. But, there is an important coefficient in the equation that differs significantly between 1969 and now. Jim Tressel.

Tressel > Hayes?

Seriously - just wondering.

 

[Steve19]

It's too early to compare them HTM. Potentially? Tressel just might be to a lot of folks.

But for those of us who met and loved Woody. Well, he was one of a kind.

 

[Buckeye86]

Tressel > Hayes?

Seriously - just wondering.

Woody Hayes through first seven years (1951-1957):
48-15-2
1 Perfect Season ('54 10-0)
2 National Title ('54, '57)
3 Big Ten Titles ('54, '55, '57)
Record vs. tsun: 4-3

Jim Tressel through first seven years (2001-2007):
73-16
1 Perfect Season ('02 14-0)
1 National Title ('02)
4 Big Ten Titles ('02, '05, '06, '07)
Record vs. tsun: 6-1

It's hard to make an argument either way as to who was better through their first seven years, even though Tressel clearly has the advantage in W's over a certain team.

 

[stowfan]

To me, it's clearly JT, let's not forget the 85 scholarship rule.

 

[OCBucksFan]

Tressel > Hayes?

Seriously - just wondering.

I don't think this can be a fair comparison, without Hayes I don't know if we ever see or hear of JT. Hayes made a lot of what Ohio State football is, the rivalry, the 10 year war, all these things have made for a lot of tradition and change in the landscape of college football as well as the big10.

Hayes was, and always will be, great in his own right. I don't think anything can take away from what he did for the school and state. On the same note, Tressel brought back the passion that a lot of fans hand lost during the Cooper years.

Both are great pieces of history in Ohio, one just happens to continue to be making it.

 

[Tonyank]

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Hayes was, and always will be, great in his own right. I don't think anything can take away from what he did for the school and state. On the same note, Tressel brought back the passion that a lot of fans hand lost during the Cooper years.

Both are great pieces of history in Ohio, one just happens to continue to be making it.

Who is this Cooper you speak of ?


this is just all a huge mess. Bringing scUM down a notch in my mind. First by hiring this idiot, then on not paying his buy-out. I like the rivarly TONS!! But this might bring it down a notch :( I hope it doesn't scar the big ten tooo much :(

 

[Bleed S & G]

Woody Hayes through first seven years (1951-1957):
48-15-2
1 Perfect Season ('54 10-0)
1 National Title ('54, possibly two if you count '57)
3 Big Ten Titles ('54, '55, '57)
Record vs. tsun: 4-3

Jim Tressel through first seven years (2001-2007):
73-16
1 Perfect Season ('02 14-0)
1 National Title ('02)
4 Big Ten Titles ('02, '05, '06, '07)
Record vs. tsun: 6-1

It's hard to make an argument either way as to who was better through their first seven years, even though Tressel clearly has the advantage in W's over a certain team.

Allow the historian born in the late 80's to correct you here 86:

There is one very BIG diffrence in the "first 7 years"..

Tressel inherited a very talented team. Woody built his.

These are two great coaches, but two diffrent coaches. In terms of numbers, JT is on pace to be "greater" but without Woody, there is no JT.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Woody Hayes through first seven years (1951-1957):
48-15-2
1 Perfect Season ('54 10-0)
1 National Title ('54, possibly two if you count '57)
3 Big Ten Titles ('54, '55, '57)
Record vs. tsun: 4-3.

I don't know anyone who doesn't count the '57 national title awarded us by UP.

 

[Buckeye86]

I don't know anyone who doesn't count the '57 national title awarded us by UP.

I guess I was thinking of '61 then.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I guess I was thinking of '61 then.

That would be more likely (that and 1970).

 

[Buckeye86]

Tressel inherited a very talented team. Woody built his.

Unless you're only talking about the '02 championship team which Tressel won largely with Cooper players, I don't think anyone could have built their team much better than Tressel has.

Ohio State's record in the three years prior to Woody, '48, '49, and '50, was 6-3, 7-1-2, and 6-3. It doesn't exactly seem like Woody had to build his team from scratch when he arrived.

In his first three years Woody went 4-3-2, 6-3, and 6-3 before winning a NC in his fourth year. He then went 7-2 and 6-3 in his next two years, won the national championship again in '57, then went 6-1-2 and 3-5-1 in his next two years.

While Woody may have built his '54 team more so than Tressel built his '02 team, I don't think that you can compare the two in terms of consistently fielding good to great teams at the beginning of their careers. In my opinion, Tressel has clearly done a better job at building up his team in his first seven years than Woody did. I know I went a little further ahead in Woody's career than Tressel is currently at in his, but I don't see a five loss team anytime in our near future under Tressel.

I'm no historian though.

 

[Bleed S & G]

Unless you're only talking about the '02 championship team which Tressel won largely with Cooper players, I don't think anyone could have built their team much better than Tressel has.

Of course I'm talking about the 02 team and I didn't say Tressel can't build teams..

What I was trying to say is it's unfair to compare the two because Tressel walked into a national powerhouse, whereas Woody put us on the map.

While Woody may have built his '54 team more so than Tressel built his '02 team,

Exactly..

I don't think that you can compare the two in terms of consistently fielding good to great teams at the beginning of their careers.

I agree..

They are NOT comparable.. a lot has changed since 1950.. ya know? Woody wasn't flying a private jet across the country :)

Tressel has been unbelievable thus far though.. see 2001-2002, 2002-2003, 2004-2005, 2005-2006, 2007-2008

In my opinion, Tressel has clearly done a better job at building up his team in his first seven years than Woody did.

Ehh, this is debatable. Only because Woody won 2 championships.. BUT JT has had a crack at 3 of them already. Both impressive.

I know I went a little further ahead in Woody's career than Tressel is currently at in his, but I don't see a five loss team anytime in our near future under Tressel.

To keep things fair, Ohio State did drop 4 games in 2004. Plus, Woody was not the reason the teams struggled.. However, our future looks to hold 10+ win seasons....

Bottom line is, both are great coaches.

And I shouldn't say Woody put Ohio State on the map, because they were already on the map.. but pre-Woody was not a good time. Lose 3 or 4 games a year, every year and all the sudden you are like a M*ch*gan or Notre Dame ( that feels great):

Brown chose not to return to Ohio State after the war, going into professional football instead. Widdoes, despite having the highest two-year winning percentage of any Buckeye coach, asked to return to an assistant's position. Paul Bixler, an assistant, replaced Widdoes and endured a mediocre 4-3-2 season. Bixler resigned and talk of Ohio State being a "graveyard of coaches" became commonplace, a reputation that lingered for decades.[7]

Wes Fesler became head coach in 1947 but finished last in the Big Ten for the only time in team history. Ohio State improved greatly in 1948, winning 6 and losing 3, then in 1949 enjoyed a successful season due to the play of sophomore Vic Janowicz. Ohio State received the Rose Bowl invitation, where they came from behind to defeat California. In 1950 Fesler, rumored to be resigning because of pressures associated with the position and abuse of his family by anonymous critics, returned to coach the Buckeyes, who won six games in a row to move into the top ranking in the AP poll. However the season fell apart as the Buckeyes lost to Michigan during a blizzard, a game that came to be known as the "Snow Bowl". Two weeks later, citing concerns about his health and family, Fesler resigned.

Time to get back on topic... Rich Rod is a dick.