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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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I love Coach Tressel.. but I dont understand this "overachieving" and "we were supposed to lose 3-4 games this year" stuff.. Yeah many of us felt that way prior to the season, but that was based on the thought that PSU, Purdue, Wisky, and Michigan were top teams.. People were predicting Top 5 finishes for Michigan and Wisconsin.. Top 10 for PSU.. Top 20 for Purdue..

Now that we've gone through the year... there isnt a team on our schedule or in this conference that has anywhere near the talent or coaching staff we do.. Therefore, it's disappointing that we did lose a game.. and I cant say we "overachieved" or 10-1 is a tremendous result..

We are better than every team in this conference and probably beat most of them 9 times out of 10..

To me the season isnt a disappointment (unless we lose the next two).. but I cant buy that we overachieved this year..
 
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I think it evident from the message boards that those of you watching at home didn't see what preceded the now infamous TO.

1) Illinois had their offensive personnel ready to run on the field
(pretending to go for it), so OSU was ready with their D. At the last second, literally, Illinois switched. OSU ran out Hartline and Small as two D players ran off the field. For a few seconds there were too many men on the field and Illinois was set.

2)Tressel literally had a split second to make his decision. In hindsight he should have risked it, or let them punt without our returners on the field. But no one can expect to make the right call in those circumstances.
 
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Colvinnl;990869; said:
I think it evident from the message boards that those of you watching at home didn't see what preceded the now infamous TO.

1) Illinois had their offensive personnel ready to run on the field
(pretending to go for it), so OSU was ready with their D. At the last second, literally, Illinois switched. OSU ran out Hartline and Small as two D players ran off the field. For a few seconds there were too many men on the field and Illinois was set.

2)Tressel literally had a split second to make his decision. In hindsight he should have risked it, or let them punt without our returners on the field. But no one can expect to make the right call in those circumstances.
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I don't recall it being a last second switch by Illinois. Even if so, it's on our special teams coach(es) to have people ready to go when the opponent is on fourth down, just for this exact scanario. As soon as Illinois brought their punt team on the field (IIRC, they didn't exactly Chinese-firedrill run on the field) we should've brought ours on.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;991274; said:
I don't recall it being a last second switch by Illinois. Even if so, it's on our special teams coach(es) to have people ready to go when the opponent is on fourth down, just for this exact scanario. As soon as Illinois brought their punt team on the field (IIRC, they didn't exactly Chinese-firedrill run on the field) we should've brought ours on.
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Honestly, I remember it as a Chinese-firedrill run onto the field. Our D was already on the field and Illinois broke from the sidelines with the punt team. Two (I think linemen) had the sprint off the field as Hartline/Small ran out to return. The were perhaps a little late in realizing it was the punt team.

This is speculation but I think Tressel was calling the timeout as the players were switching but the official didn't really accept his call until they had switched.

I don't know how they showed it on TV-sometimes you see things at the game that you don't see on TV and vice-versa. (assuming you werent' there).
 
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MililaniBuckeye;991274; said:
I don't recall it being a last second switch by Illinois. Even if so, it's on our special teams coach(es) to have people ready to go when the opponent is on fourth down, just for this exact scanario. As soon as Illinois brought their punt team on the field (IIRC, they didn't exactly Chinese-firedrill run on the field) we should've brought ours on.
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Who is our special team's coach? Does it rotate on a weekly basis? I noticed that I have never heard one coach listed as a ST coach, and according to coachtressel.com that's because no one has the title:

2007 Ohio State Football Coaching Staff: coachtressel.com

I have always found that odd, but I won't complain about our special teams. They are cut above most.
 
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Tbuck;991338; said:
Who is our special team's coach? Does it rotate on a weekly basis? I noticed that I have never heard one coach listed as a ST coach, and according to coachtressel.com that's because no one has the title:

2007 Ohio State Football Coaching Staff: coachtressel.com

I have always found that odd, but I won't complain about our special teams. They are cut above most.
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I thought it was Fickell? During the game, it looks like Tressel is the man.

However, I will say ST have actually been subpar this year (IMO). I believe 3 blocked field goals? Avg kick return of 16.8 with a long of 39. opponents have had 2tds and avg 21.6.

Pretorious and Trapasso have been very good though, but those other stats aren't too good.
 
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Colvinnl;990869; said:
I think it evident from the message boards that those of you watching at home didn't see what preceded the now infamous TO.

1) Illinois had their offensive personnel ready to run on the field
(pretending to go for it), so OSU was ready with their D. At the last second, literally, Illinois switched. OSU ran out Hartline and Small as two D players ran off the field. For a few seconds there were too many men on the field and Illinois was set.

2)Tressel literally had a split second to make his decision. In hindsight he should have risked it, or let them punt without our returners on the field. But no one can expect to make the right call in those circumstances.
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You're right. I got that feeling from the formations but ABC just came back from commercial moments before the TO. The announcers never bothered to explain the situation.
 
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Colvinnl;991332; said:
Honestly, I remember it as a Chinese-firedrill run onto the field. Our D was already on the field and Illinois broke from the sidelines with the punt team. Two (I think linemen) had the sprint off the field as Hartline/Small ran out to return. The were perhaps a little late in realizing it was the punt team.

This is speculation but I think Tressel was calling the timeout as the players were switching but the official didn't really accept his call until they had switched.

I don't know how they showed it on TV-sometimes you see things at the game that you don't see on TV and vice-versa. (assuming you werent' there).
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Illinios ran the punt team out late, and once we recognized who was out there, Tressel sent out Hartline and Small. Unfortunately, Russell and Coleman didn't get the memo, and were still on the field. Malcolm was screaming and waving for them to get off, but by the time they realized what was happening and started sprinting to the sideline, Illinios was set. Honestly, if your Tressel, do you risk the too many men on the field penalty which is an automatic first down, or do you take the timeout and hope that Illinios doesn't go for it and if they do you stop them? In that situation, I would take the timeout.
 
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BengalsAndBucks;991610; said:
Illinios ran the punt team out late, and once we recognized who was out there, Tressel sent out Hartline and Small. Unfortunately, Russell and Coleman didn't get the memo, and were still on the field. Malcolm was screaming and waving for them to get off, but by the time they realized what was happening and started sprinting to the sideline, Illinios was set. Honestly, if your Tressel, do you risk the too many men on the field penalty which is an automatic first down, or do you take the timeout and hope that Illinios doesn't go for it and if they do you stop them? In that situation, I would take the timeout.
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Exactly. I think one of the reasons it looked bad was that the personnel had changed by the time the TO was granted. But, Tressel had mere seconds to make the call and I think 90% of coaches would have done so under those circumstances. I wouldn't even blame him in hindsight because I don't think he could have made any other call.
 
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