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Kellen Winslow Jr. (not a good dude)

Bucklion said:
I need to find Savante to make another v-bet

Ha, no you do not. I still maintain he woulda done it had he stayed healthy. The only bet I'm making is that he doesn't play this year. :(

I loved the guy because he played for the Browns. He probably won't ever again. Hence, I do not love him anymore. Very, very depressing.
 
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Tell it Like it Is Jim (Tressel)

At the end of a recent updated news report on Winslows extended hospital stay wherein Kosar and other's were quoted with lots of supportive words for Winslow -- there was this from the Buckeyes Head Coach:

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel had a different take: "If I was making my living with my arms or my legs I wouldn't be doing that (riding motorcycles)."
 
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Winslow leaves hospital

Browns TE on crutches after motorcycle crash

CLEVELAND (AP) -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was released from the hospital Tuesday, nine days after a motorcycle accident left him with internal injuries and a damaged right knee.

Winslow walked out of the Cleveland Clinic on metal crutches, putting no weight on his right leg. He wore a Cleveland Browns T-shirt and sweat pants. He smiled and gave a thumbs up. When asked how he was feeling, he said "good." Winslow left in a sport utility vehicle.

Winslow, the team's top pick in the 2004 draft, issued a statement through the Browns thanking his family, friends, fans, the club and the clinic.

"I am determined more than ever to get back on the field with my coaches and teammates as soon as possible. I'm OK and excited to be going home," he said.

The Browns have not updated Winslow's status since releasing a statement May 4 that said they were concerned about his knee. Winslow was injured May 1 when he went flying over the handlebars at 35 mph.

Winslow, 21, bought a powerful motorcycle last month and had a learner's permit, but ignored advice about getting lessons.


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Kelen Winslow left the hospital nine days after a motorcycle accident.
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He Could Have Owned This Town
By Rich Passan
Date: May 10, 2005

Rich Passan looks that the sad (to date) Kellen Winslow saga
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Kellen Winslow Jr. could have owned Cleveland.

He was a star coming out of college, an unpolished jewel waiting to gleam. He had everything going for him – talent, confidence, looks, a swagger, an aura. He stood out from everyone else. He was someone special.

When he held out in training camp last summer, the anticipation of his pending arrival excited Browns fans. Even stalled contract talks and angry posturing did not dampen that enthusiasm.

And when Winslow finally reported, the PR machine revved up to warp speed.

The 6-4, 250-pounder became the poster child of the new Browns. On his shoulders, the Browns finally would become the team fans hoped for when it returned in 1999.

Winslow had the speed, the size, the moves, the hands, the attitude. An All-Pro waiting to happen, said some. He’ll be the greatest tight end in the history of the game when he’s all through, said others. It was just a matter of time.

The bloodlines paved the way. Dad was an All-Pro for the San Diego Chargers after an outstanding career at Missouri. His bust resides in the Hall of Fame.

Junior’s legacy foretold greatness.

He could have owned Cleveland.

Today, Kellen Winslow Jr. owes Cleveland. He owes Cleveland big time. He owes his teammates and Browns fans that talent, that swagger, that aura.

He had Browns Nation in the palm of his huge hands when he arrived. And now, through a series of unfortunate events, Winslow’s career hangs in the balance.

And he has no one to blame but himself.

He lies in a hospital room not knowing whether he has a future in the National Football League because of major injuries sustained after going head over handlebars Evel Knieveling in a parking lot 10 days ago.

The situation echoes a Nationwide Insurance commercial on television these days. You know the one where a football player is waiting for the announcement of the top pick in the draft.

He’s waiting at the top of a steep staircase, listening intently for the pronouncement that he is the No. 1 pick.

After his name is announced, he strikes a Heisman Trophy pose for the photographers, takes his first step down toward the podium where the owner of the team that picked him awaits with a jersey, then slips and tumbles head over ego all the way to the bottom and lands flat on his back.

“Life comes at you fast,” intones a voice.

It sure does. Winslow found that out the hard way.

He no doubt is relieved his injuries are not life-threatening. Most fans share that relief. But they are angry. And rightly so. They feel cheated. They feel as though they have been kicked in the teeth again.

More evidence to support the notion that it’s not easy being a Cleveland sports fan.

The forgiving fans rationalize Winslow’s actions by writing them off as the impetuous actions of a young man. We all make mistakes, they claim. He’s just a kid. He’s entitled to make one mistake and should be forgiven.

When you’re almost 22 years old and a pro athlete with millions of dollars in your back pocket, you’re no longer a kid. And you shouldn’t be forgiven. There’s a certain amount of responsibility that comes with such stature.

Winslow reminds me of a character named Joe Btfsplk in the old comic strip “Li’l Abner” who walked around with a rain cloud over his head all the time.

Wherever little Joe, a harmless sort, went, he was accompanied by doom and gloom. Bad luck always lurked.

No one dared get near him. He was shunned like the plague. Getting too close guaranteed imminent trouble. He was an accident waiting to happen.

Let’s see. Rancorous contract negotiations. A broken leg in game two last season. Now this.

After the latest incident, one has to give serious thought that Joe Btsfplk lives and is a Cleveland Browns fan.

And instead of being the poster child for the Browns, Winslow is the Joe Btfsplk poster child of the last 12 months.

Passing harsh judgment on him for the predicament that most likely will cost him at least another season is too easy. Besides, you guys have done a good enough job of that in the numerous threads on this Web site.

The Browns should act swiftly and severely once the whole story is unveiled. Winslow breached his contract the moment he mounted his bike and should be made to pay the price. An excessively stiff price.

The Browns face some thorny decisions. Do they terminate the contract? They should. Do they take away most of his money, only to try and give it back in an incentive-laden way? That’s the easy way out and probably what they’ll do.

If their decision alienates the player, so be it. If it results in attitudinal behavior, so be it.

It’s not the club’s fault. The Browns didn’t put Winslow’s butt on a motorcycle. They did their part with contract restrictions.

Fingers of guilt should be pointed inward.

The Browns invested a lot of money in Winslow and this is how he shows his appreciation? If anything, the club should be more ticked off at him than he at them if money is extracted from his wallet.

No doubt Winslow felt invincible and indestructible when he made the decision to buy a motorcycle. He was young, life’s path was well laid out and, shoot, what could go wrong?

Sadly, the answer has landed him in a hospital bed contemplating his future and wondering how he could be so stupid.

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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>Levine: The PR Machine Breaks Down
By Les Levine
Date: May 11, 2005

The Kellen Winslow situation couldn't have been handled any worse by the Browns, opines Les Levine in his weekly commentary. A veteran on the Cleveland sports scene, Les has never seen a situation where so few fans support a Cleveland athlete...
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The NFL is widely known for having one of the best public relations machine in any industry in this country. My assumption is that they advised the Browns to do absolutely nothing in regard to the Kellen Winslow, Jr. situation over the past ten days. Otherwise, how do you explain the way they responded to everything?

There must have been some legal entanglements that prevented the Browns from doing any more than they did, because from a public relations standpoint they couldn’t have done worse. The Winslow family, and his agent, must have been in control of whatever little news was confirmed. What they didn’t realize is that by keeping silent, they allowed rumors to run rampant over television, radio, and the internet. Eventually the reality of the situation will surface, and the extent of the injuries will be known to the public. In the meantime, however, the only thing that was avoided was an embarrassing situation for Winslow.

The best thing that the Browns could have done, with Winslow’s permission, was to have a hospital press conference. Winslow could have avoided the personal questions about his health, but he could have been given the opportunity to apologize to the fans and ask for their understanding. He could have, at least, tried to work on the sympathies of the fans, but as time goes on, their unhappiness with him grows.

In all of my years of covering and talking sports in the Cleveland market, I have never seen a situation where the fans are 100% on one side of an issue, and in this case, there are almost no supporters of Winslow out there. While most people weren’t upset when Randy Lerner paid off Butch Davis in full when he quit as coach, they seem to be outraged by Winslow’s actions, which totally appear to be in violation of his contract.

The fans image of Winslow is not a good one. When he was drafted by the Browns, the only thing the fans knew about him, besides being a potentially great player, were the things he said about the Ohio State game, and the ‘soldier’ tirade that he had during the season. He then held out for twelve days before signing with the Browns, which also didn’t endear him to the fans. And he has been pretty much silent, even before the motorcycle accident, in the past eight or nine months of rehab from his broken leg.

If he never plays another down for the Cleveland Browns, he will just be another footnote in the team's sorry history of draft success. Add him to the list of, in no particular order, Mike Junkin, Gerard Warren, Courtney Brown, William Green, Craig Powell, Touchdown Tommy Vardell, Steve Everitt, Clifford Charlton, Don Rogers, Willis Adams, and Steve Holden. If Winslow’s career is over, who would have believed that he would have played only two more games with the Browns than Ernie Davis?

<HR width="75%" color=#ff8000>Despite the PR problem caused by Winslow, there is at least some good news. If they were going to lose a front-line player, tight end is probably the position of most strength on the team. Steve Heiden and Aaron Shea, despite some flaws, have proven to be solid performers. And, unlike last year, when the whole offensive structure had to change when Winslow got hurt, there is plenty of time to come up with something effective.

It is time for the front office to focus in on June 1, when a whole crop of veterans should become available. By now, the Browns know what they have and what they need, and I would expect them to pick up two or three players who can provide immediate help, especially on defense.

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Maybe if the dumbasses would have given Modell his stadium, the Super Bowl trophy would be in Cleveland instead of Baltimore.
They deserve what they're getting.

Another lame attempt by Tibor to get under somebodys skin.....pathetic.


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By Barry McBride
Date: May 11, 2005

Browns executives met with the local media on Wednesday afternoon to discuss Kellen Winslow's injuries. The team could say little, however, and the press and fans gained little new insight into the prognosis for Winslow's recovery. Barry was there, and offers his take on the half-hour press conference.
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Even with all our technology and hubris, mankind still finds some mysteries to be unsolvable.

For example, we still cannot say if a tree falling in a forest in the absence of people creates a sound. As a species, we'll just have to trust that the refrigerator light goes out when doors is closed. No human will ever know what the heck was going through Christie Brinkley's mind when she married Billy Joel. And so on.

Based on today's press conference with Browns executives Phil Savage, John Collins, and Romeo Crennel, the exact nature of Kellen Winslow's injuries has joined the ranks of these eternal mysteries.

The team blames the lack of information on their legal obligation to respect the family's privacy.

“It’s a non-football injury and quite frankly there is nothing we can do about (releasing information)", Collins offered. "There is nothing we can do in terms of reporting the injuries and the medical treatment. We are not allowed to do it, it’s not considered a league rule, and there are privacy laws and everything else".

While fans looking for clarification wound up disappointed, some aspects of Winslow's status could be gleaned from the team's remarks:

  • Winslow did not have to undergo surgery on his right knee. He might have to undergo surgery in the near future. Or he might not.
  • The Browns hope to have a clearer picture of Winslow's status after another evaluation is performed in 7-10 days.
  • There is no information available on the tight end's likely recovery time, and the team pushed away all queries on the subject. However, a bogus internet report of Winslow's injuries being career-ending was quickly batted away by Team President John Collins.
  • Winslow's right knee "remains a concern", but the team is not considering releasing him.
  • The tight end is already back in Berea and doing some rehab. Winslow was performing some "range of motion" tests on the knee today at the team's facility.
While there was talk of "disappointment" in Winslow, Browns executives did not use the occasion to bash the player or his representatives, the notorious Kevin and Carl Poston. Phil Savage stated that there has been no contact with Poston brothers regarding Winslow's contract.

With little information to relay, the press conference mostly appeared an attempt to recapture positive momentum for the organization. Local columnists and radio personalities, along with many fans, have been openly despairing of the team's prospects, writing darkly of curses or other sinister machinations.

Fighting the negativity, Savage outlined the team's lengthy list of on-going activities, such as the voluntary workouts, NFL Europe and the upcoming passing camp. Romeo Crennel painted a picture of a team working hard and looking forward to upcoming camps and the 2005 season.

The team's head coach even put a positive spin on Winslow's attitude.

"He was in here this morning rehabbing. I feel like that is a positive for us", Crennel said. "He was happy to be here and he was happy to see us when we went down to see him. He is in pretty good spirits. I think that he wants to work to try and get back on the field to show the kind of ability that he has.”

The new front office team undoubtedly hopes that their upbeat message rubs off on a press corps and fan base which has developed some defensive cynicism due to bad luck and losing records. Unfortunately, they're likely to find that good news and winning, rather than press conferences, is the only cure.

- BDMc

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By Barry McBride
Date: May 18, 2005

Today, we wait patiently for a puff of white smoke in the form of a press release to emerge from Berea regarding the status of TE Kellen Winslow. With MRI results discussed with the team and Winslow today, the world may (or may not) hear about the extent of the damage to his right knee. That, plus some of the usual detritus associated with covering the Cleveland Browns, in today's newswire wrap...
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The waiting game may or may not be in its final stages.

The long-awaited MRI on Kellen Winslow's right knee was done yesterday with results expected today. Whether Browns fans learn the details of those results will again be up to Kellen Winslow, Jr, and his family. To some degree, another phase of waiting may be in the offing if second opinions are requested.

The Browns haven't committed to a press release or anything else when they learn of the results, but will be able to answer questions regarding whether or not they feel Winslow will make an appearance on the football field in 2005 and, potentially, whether the team intends to seek compensation in the form of a bonus pay-back.

The most important information that the team hopes to glean from the MRI is whether Winslow has torn his anterior-cruciate ligament. If he has, he won't be playing this year.


DROUGHNS WORKING OUT: Based on the quotes from Romeo Crennel at the Akron Browns Backers meeting, the team didn't seem positive as of Monday night about RB Reuben Droughns' intentions other than that he had returned to the Berea facility.

It turns out that Droughns is back in town to work out and learn the team's offensive system. At present, the assumption is that he'll be participating in the upcoming mini-camps.

This is some actual good news from the perspective of Browns fans, if not from the perspective of Droughns' agent Drew Rosenhaus.


ANOTHER MEDIUM FALLS VICTIM: Back in 1996, a website called Greedwatch.com showed up to enable fans to chuck much-needed digital eggs at a photo of Art Modell. In 1999, that mutated into BrownsTNG.com, which obsessively detailed the weirdness as the team attempted to build itself into a competitive franchise.

In September 2001, Bernie Kosar helped BrownsTNG mutate again into BerniesInsiders.com. Later that year, after Browns News-Illustrated went out of business after decades of covering the team, Bernie's Insiders hit the print medium with a weekly (now monthly) news magazine.

Starting next Tuesday evening at 9PM, we'll attempt to victimize another unsuspecting medium as the Bernie's Insiders Radio Show hits the digital airwaves courtesy of SportsTalkCleveland.com.

The plan is for Lane Adkins and I to smack into STC's audio stream each week at that time, providing Browns fans with the only year-round radio show dedicated to the team. The hope is that site visitors interact with us via phone, email, and the chat room so that the radio show, like the website, is fan-driven. We figure the more you listen to each other, rather than us, the better the show will be.

Archives will be available the day after the show. There will also be a live video stream available for masochists who are somehow compelled to see what is meant by the phrase "perfect faces for radio". I'm hiring some dorky-looking guy to pretend to be me.

We'll have more details on the site in the coming days.


BEWARE THE MEDIA: The Watercooler thread on yesterday's Newswire-related ramblings noted that the article referenced RB Reuben Droughns "attempting to live" on his salary of $950,000 in 2005.

It should probably be pointed out that the phrase was this writer's abuse of his article-writing privileges to interject his own opinions into the story. I apologize to anyone who might have attributed that phrase to Droughns.

- BDMc

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<!---- begin content ----> [font=arial,sans-serif] Winslow out for 2005 season [/font] [font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]Reported by Jim Donovan
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[font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]BEREA -- Kellen Winslow is out for the 2005 season. [/font][/font]

[font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]An MRI shows that Winslow injured his ACL. [/font][/font]

[font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]The results of the MRI on Winslow's injured right leg have not been made public, but sources tell us that they show an injury to his ACL. [/font][/font]

[font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]Winslow knows the results and so do the Browns, but the Winslow family will not allow the information to be become public. [/font][/font]

[font=arial,sans-serif][font=arial,sans-serif]Winslow was injured May 1st in Westlake while riding a motorcycle in a parking lot. Winslow missed nearly all of his rookie year with the Browns after breaking his leg against Dallas in Week 2. [/font][/font]
 
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