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Kellen Winslow Jr. (not a good dude)

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Bucklion said:
Making matters more interesting is that Taylor, who signed the "bad" contract that Winslow refuses to sign anything close to, looked sharp and prepared in tonight's HOF game here in Canton, including running a TD back, if I recall. I guess that just means that Wins-blowass is so much better than his teammate, he doesn't need camp, the preseason, or any conditioning or studying of the game plan. Whatever...enjoy sitting out, assmunch, your crew are busy earning their way.
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I thought it was funny that he was basically talking shit about Taylor and the 'Skins drafting him. This guy has been your teammate the past three years and you're pissed off because he gets drafted before you. :shake:
 
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I hope he never signs!

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CLEVELAND - Signs indicate the Browns and the agent for first-round pick Kellen Winslow Jr. are working hard and might be making progress toward ending the tight end's 11-day holdout.



Winslow's agent, Kevin Poston, flew back to Detroit on Monday after meeting with Browns brass. Winslow indicated that he was just a short flight away if team president John Collins, owner Randy Lerner and salary-cap specialist Trip McCracken wanted to talk further.

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"We're working with the Browns to get it done," Poston said at Cleveland-Hopkins Airport. "We hope to get it done. But I've got a job to do.



"I've always said it takes two to dance. You can't dance by yourself."



A league source said last week that the two sides were $12 to $22 million apart in offers of minimum and maximum salary. When training camp opened July 30, Collins released a statement that the Browns had offered Winslow, the sixth overall pick in the draft, the same contract that No. 5 pick Sean Taylor signed with Washington. Taylor, Winslow's teammate at the University of Miami, now believes he was underpaid and fired his agents, Eugene Mato and Jeff Moorad, last week. Reportedly he is about to rehire agent Drew Rosenhaus, whom he let go a few days after the draft.



Taylor's deal carried a minimum of $18 million and a maximum of $40 million, but that came with what are regarded as unreachable incentives. Taylor's guaranteed take was $13 million.



The league source said Poston was asking for the same deal that his client Charles Rogers, a wide receiver who was last year's No. 2 pick, received from Detroit. Rogers actually got a better contract than the No. 1 choice, quarterback Carson Palmer of Cincinnati. Rogers' six-year contract assured him of a minimum of $40 million with a maximum of $52 million, according to the source, and included a $14.4 million signing bonus.



Poston has been silent about his asking price, saying only he wants "fair market value" for Winslow.



"I never asked for No. 1 money," Poston insisted Monday. "That's all their response. I haven't said anything. I don't negotiate in the media."



Poston would not divulge what he thought of Browns quarterback Jeff Garcia's remarks last Wednesday, when he said Winslow needed "to think about the team" and "you're going to get your riches no matter what." Garcia softened his stance Saturday and said that he and Winslow had exchanged phone messages.



"That's between those guys," Poston said.



This week would appear to be a crucial period in the negotiations. The Browns open the preseason Saturday at Tennessee, and Garcia and Winslow need to work on their timing before the regular-season opener Sept. 12 against rival Baltimore. "He's important to the team, no question about that," Poston said of Winslow.

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It looks like Cleveland is going to cave in, I think its a mistake and this guy will not be a team player, only a discration to the team.
 
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that means cleveland is going to cave to the postons. since im not a browns fan i dont care about their salary cap issues......but can somebody fill me in on who the highest paid player is right now? i cant imagine they have too many...but i expect this to be a barry bonds type pressure on the team.

in no way am i comparing winslow to bonds (except in the asshole department)...im just saying barry bonds hurts his team by being so damn expensive because they cant sign anybody good enough to protect his bat. i dont see the browns getting better by signing this jerkwad to a huge contract.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
im just saying barry bonds hurts his team by being so damn expensive because they cant sign anybody good enough to protect his bat. i dont see the browns getting better by signing this jerkwad to a huge contract.
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I'd say Bonds is the only person worth the paychecks he is getting jerk or not, he is being crimed by not having the highest salary in the league when he is CLEARLY the best player. I'm hoping both Rivers and Winslow sit out though.
 
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http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2654904

FOX Sports' James Brown has learned that Kellen Winslow, Jr., the sixth overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft, expects to sign with the Cleveland Browns today or tomorrow.


<!-- esi: /widget/story/videoAndPhotoGallery?contentId=2654904-->According to Brown, who reported the move on his show on Sporting News Radio, Winslow expects to be in training camp no later than Thursday.


Winslow, the No. 6 pick, has missed 10 practices since July 30 when his agent Kevin Poston rejected the Browns' initial offer — a six-year, $40 million deal. The Browns and Winslow were reportedly as much as $15 million apart.
 
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Looks like HH is on the money. Browns insiders site says the deal is complete. I hope they didn't cave too much for KW2. I'm probably never going to be able to cheer for him no matter what he does.
 
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16.5 million sighing, I mean signing boner, I mean bonus incl incentives. 6 yr, 41.5mm deal.

That's what they be sayin'.

I know everybody hates Winslow with his big mouth. But frankly I don't care what his big yap says if he plays well and I hope, learns a little humility which is unlikely, I know. I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't care what kind of person he is as long as he stays clean and plays hard. The other happy horseshit is really nice, but it doesn't win football games.

Personally, I'm not going to walk up to any athlete and try to make friends. I'm a Browns fan my whole life and I can't stop that, so I'm interested in just winning baby.
 
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I'd say Bonds is the only person worth the paychecks he is getting jerk or not
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didnt say he wasnt worth the paychecks.....he is just not valuable to his team because he keeps them from getting somebody to protect his bat.

same with winslow. sure hes a hell of a tight end.....but hes going to be a damper on the team more than a help.
 
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