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Kelvin Sampson (HC Houston Cougars)

actually now that asked a sooner alumn about that stat i am a liar....according to the sooner fan in the office sampson is one of three coaches to win 20 or more games for over ten straight seasons...the other two are jim calhoun and coach k.....this is second hand so feel free to prove me wrong, i would love to throw this back in the sooners face


i am assuming that there must be some sort of time constraint on that stat as i am sure that john wooden did it

Actually, he didn't. Much like Woody Hayes, he coached in an era where they played less games early (usually around 25 total) thus less gaudy numbers early in his career, though he never had a losing record at UCLA. In his final run from 62-63 to 74-75, he won at least 20 games 12 out of those 13 years...but tossed in an 18-8 campaign in between. He did win at least 28 games a remarkable 10 of those years, going undefeated an astounding 4 times. The 18-8 year was the only one in a ten year period he didn't win the title.
 
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The whole problem with Alford is, from what I've seen, he is a very average game coach. He has done a nice job in Iowa City making the Hawkeyes competitive, but they lose too many games they shouldn't. He would surely bring some nice recruits to Bloomington off his name alone, but after a couple years of not getting big time results, the luster of what he achieved as a PLAYER would have worn off. I think Sampson will do very well there, and it will be great to see tOSU and IU duke it out on the hardwood in the coming seasons.
 
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sampson is one of the top 5 winningest coaches in d1 over the last ten years, i believe it is #3. he is a great coach and has a style much like that of tom izzo. That said, I can't stand the guy. His strange affinity for denim shirts should be enough to scratch him off your wish list
to go along with his constant whining to the refs half of the time and being halfway on the court. :tongue2:
 
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actually now that asked a sooner alumn about that stat i am a liar....according to the sooner fan in the office sampson is one of three coaches to win 20 or more games for over ten straight seasons...the other two are jim calhoun and coach k.....this is second hand so feel free to prove me wrong, i would love to throw this back in the sooners face

HL, Feel free to toss Lute Olson's current streak of 19 straight 20-win seasons into the face of the Land Thief. :biggrin:

edit - Tubby Snith has 13 straight, but only the last 9 are at Ky, so that may be why he was excluded.
 
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no one has mentioned sampson isnt off the hook for 500 illegal phone calls, 100+ going to jrs he wasnt allowed to contact...

I mentioned the ongoing NCAA investigation but everyone has seemed to overlook that.....I just think bringing in him with question marks is a big risk for Indiana. Just imagine if OSU did this, the uproar would be crazy.

I think if he doesn't have great success early, it will get ugly in Bloomington, most supporters of their program wanted someone with Indiana ties......
 
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Article in the IndyStar regarding the hire, this is from this morning.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060329/COLUMNISTS01/603290490/1004/SPORTS

Bob Kravitz
If goal was to unite fans, it failed
March 29, 2006


This was supposed to be the big, sexy hire, the balloons-and-confetti hire that would once again unite the fractured Hoosier Nation. This was supposed to be the hire that confirmed IU's delusional self-image as a top-five, even top-10 program, the hire that sent shock waves through the upcoming Final Four here in Indianapolis.
Maybe Billy Donovan. Or John Calipari. Or Mark Few. Or someone with a Bob Knight pedigree, a Steve Alford or even Randy Wittman.
Kelvin Sampson?
Really?
Unless last-minute contract negotiations between IU and Sampson break down, he's your man.
The same Kelvin Sampson who got out-coached by Mike Davis in the 2002 Final Four semifinal?
The same Kelvin Sampson who, despite his run of 20-win seasons, is 11-12 in the NCAA Tournament, with eight losses to lower-seeded teams?
The same Kelvin Sampson whose telephone misdeeds, however minor, earned his school an April 21 hearing before the NCAA Infractions Committee? Call them insignificant, but Oklahoma saw them as major enough to impose penalties on its program, including freezing Sampson's salary.
The same Kelvin Sampson whose program's graduation rates remain among the lowest in the nation? In the past, Sampson correctly derided the way the NCAA computed graduation rates, but by the calculation of the NCAA's new math, his kids still aren't graduating.
This whole thing, the Davis resignation and the Rick Greenspan-led search, was supposed to be done with the idea of uniting Hoosier fans under one banner, energizing them after years of disillusionment and ennui.
Well, I don't claim to speak for the Hoosier Nation, but the early returns suggest it is united -- united in its amazement that Greenspan, the man on the hottest seat of all, could make a less dazzling and more distressing hire.
Not sexy.
Not a member of the family.
Neither.
Did you hear that noise?
Thud.
Now, I'm not trying to wreck the man's reputation before he's coached a practice -- well, Homer, too late for that now, isn't it? -- and if it was just a question of his basketball record, the response here would be a tepid "dull, but solid. Teams play hard. Teams play killer defense. Teams win 20 games. Good for IU.''
But this NCAA stuff is bothersome. The graduation rates are bothersome. And they are issues that need to be examined, if not by the athletic director (Greenspan), then by the local media and fans who demand a successful and pristine program.
With all due respect to Sampson, who is a regular 20-game winner at a school where football is king (and no fear of that in Bloomington), is this truly the best IU could do?
More than anything, this should serve as a sign of just how far IU's stock has fallen, and how much work Sampson really has to do to resurrect IU basketball. Maybe, in fact, this was the best they could do. The program has struggled competitively. The facilities have become decrepit by big-time college basketball standards. And every other day, an IU school president or athletic director is being chased out of office.
Tell me, why do you have to spend $90,000 on a head-hunting firm to find a coach to lead what once was viewed as one of the nation's legendary programs? The Hoosiers weren't looking for a good temp who takes shorthand. They were looking for a head coach.
If Tubby Smith left Kentucky tomorrow, there would be a line of prime candidates standing outside Rupp Arena, resumes in hand.
But IU? It was getting turned down (or so it appeared) by Mark Few, the head coach at Gonzaga, for crying out loud.
With this out-of-the-box, out-of-thin-air hire, Greenspan is making a very loud statement: "I will not be held hostage by the past.''
It doesn't bother me that Alford or Wittman didn't get the job; from the start, I've called for Greenspan to get the best person, regardless of pedigree. Rick Pitino wasn't a Kentucky guy. Smith wasn't a Kentucky guy. Those hires worked out fine.
You get the sense, though, that Greenspan made a point of severing all ties with IU's past. Taking a machete to the suckers.
Isiah Thomas? He got one call from a member of the IU athletic department, asking him about attending a news conference.
Wittman? Nothing. Not even a courtesy call. Not even a call saying, "Look, we don't see you as a viable candidate, but after so many years in the NBA, we value your input.''
As one former Hoosier told me, "I got the sense they talked to everybody in the world except anybody who was affiliated with IU in the past.''
Here we are, one day from the 25th anniversary of IU's national-title victory over North Carolina in Philadelphia, and IU's glorious past is barely visible in the rear-view mirror.
Now, I'm not going to term this a lousy hire. Questionable, yes, but patently lousy, no.
It would be inaccurate, though, to suggest his arrival has the multitudes in full swoon. He's got some bridge-building to do. And it's got to start with him showing why he's viewed as such a ferocious recruiter, with Sampson recruiting Robert Vaden and D.J. White back to Bloomington.
For now, the Hoosier Nation is divided as never before. Here's hoping Sampson has thick skin, thicker skin than Davis ever had. He's going to need it.
 
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Sampson -- strange hire?

what's with IU hiring this guy in the first place? he may have been good at Zero U but he hasn't exactly been world class, "shake'em-up-look-at-us" good. and then there is the whole NCAA violations thing, which he sounds like he may just bring with him to IU. and of course, he is not an IU guy.

all in all, he hardly makes sense. what happened that they went and got Kelvin Sampson? is IU that down? why hire now? this looks like a panic hire that does not bode well for their future.

:osu:
 
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Did anyone ever think that IU maybe isn't that lucrative of a job these days?

Who over gets hired will still be under Knight's shadow.

There's no pleasing IU fans unless they hire Pat Knight, Randy Wittman, or Steve Alford and I'd be willing to bet that Sampson could outcoach all of them.

IU fans need to wake up and realize they're NOT North Carolina.
 
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