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Kevin Wilson (HC Tulsa)

I think even referring to Indiana's players as "Second tier" is a bit of a stretch
They have a nice run of decent receivers (James Hardy, Courtney Roby, Randel El :p). Currently, they have Belcher and Doss at WR that are future NFL talents.

The defense was pretty pathetic, but the offense develops/ed some nice players.

Need to keep focusing on Indy, Ft. Wayne, 'the region' (NW Indiana, Chicago area), and then look for 2nd tier Ohio and Illinois players. After that, they need to be coached up- Lynch couldn't do the latter.
 
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OHSportsFan9;1823380; said:
They have a nice run of decent receivers (James Hardy, Courtney Roby, Randel El :p). Currently, they have Belcher and Doss at WR that are future NFL talents.

The defense was pretty pathetic, but the offense develops/ed some nice players.

Need to keep focusing on Indy, Ft. Wayne, 'the region' (NW Indiana, Chicago area), and then look for 2nd tier Ohio and Illinois players. After that, they need to be coached up- Lynch couldn't do the latter.


From what little I have seen of Indiana football over the years (thank you Big Ten Network for showing them 16 times a year), it seems like they are woefully undermanned at linebacker, and that they lack dynamic athletes with big play ability in the secondary. They hang with better teams only as long as their front four is reasonably effective, but they wear down much faster than most Big Ten teams.
 
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EireHog;1824153; said:
From what little I have seen of Indiana football over the years (thank you Big Ten Network for showing them 16 times a year), it seems like they are woefully undermanned at linebacker, and that they lack dynamic athletes with big play ability in the secondary. They hang with better teams only as long as their front four is reasonably effective, but they wear down much faster than most Big Ten teams.


They are woefully undermanned pretty much everywhere and its really sad because it doesn't have to be that way. A Woody disciple (Mallory) went in there in the 80's and actually had the program above OSU for a very short time.

Darkest Day I and II. Ugh.

I still get queasy.
 
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Jaxbuck;1824158; said:
They are woefully undermanned pretty much everywhere and its really sad because it doesn't have to be that way. A Woody disciple (Mallory) went in there in the 80's and actually had the program above OSU for a very short time.

Darkest Day I and II. Ugh.

I still get queasy.


I could understand them losing out on in-state kids to Notre Dame. I could understand the top talent going to OSU or Michigan as well, but surely there has to be some kids left over from Indianapolis and Gary, or who aren't offered by other programs in the Chicago Metro.

As much as I like to poke fun at the Big Ten for a general lack of athleticism in the depth charts, it's hard to understand how anything could get so bad as the pre-Hoeper Indiana teams. I had thought he had their program headed in a much better direction, before his untimely illness and passing, but Bill Lynch looked about as useful as a football bat, when it came to coaching and building on what he inherited.
 
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EireHog;1824161; said:
I could understand them losing out on in-state kids to Notre Dame. I could understand the top talent going to OSU or Michigan as well, but surely there has to be some kids left over from Indianapolis and Gary, or who aren't offered by other programs in the Chicago Metro.

As much as I like to poke fun at the Big Ten for a general lack of athleticism in the depth charts, it's hard to understand how anything could get so bad as the pre-Hoeper Indiana teams. I had thought he had their program headed in a much better direction, before his untimely illness and passing, but Bill Lynch looked about as useful as a football bat, when it came to coaching and building on what he inherited.

I think one of the big changes you have to account for in the last 15-20 years is cable TV/ESPN. The MAC membership currently includes 6 schools in Ohio, 3 in Michigan, and 1 in Illinois, Indiana, New York, and Pennsylvania (Temple for football only). This is virtually the same footprint as the Big Ten's core recruiting ground, and many of these MAC schools get premium airtime on ESPN & ESPN 2 since they'll bend over backwards for broadcast time. I Miami OH & Northern Illinois are probably on ESPN more often than Indiana.

Kids know this.

I don't think people pay it enough attention, but the Chad Pennington/Randy Moss tandem at Marshall, when Randy made it all the way to the Heisman presentation ceremony, completely changed the game for the Big Ten. This started a run of MAC players making big splashes on the national stage (Leftwich, Frye, Roethlisberger, Cribbs) and suddenly a lot of talent that would have fallen to the Purdue's and Indiana's is now winding up at Central Michigan and Ball St.

The disparity in admissions between the Big Ten and MAC is also unique in the country, IMHO.

The other factor, of course, is that historically Indiana is a basketball state. This is the land of 'Hoosiers', and culturally the athletes there are raised on the hardwood, not on football fields.
 
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korchiki;1829542; said:
When Glass fired Lynch on Nov. 28, he said the university would be willing to pay top dollar to find a new coach -- thanks in part to the millions each conference school is getting from the Big Ten Network.

One can only hope our "bottom feeders" can do what they're supposed to be doing and using that money they're getting from the conference from football/BTN for athletic purposes, especially when hiring coaches.

A big bravo to the Hoosiers. Like this hire a lot more than Minnesota's recent hire.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp;1823292; said:
I am not surprised by this. I am just surprised they fired him with a year left on his contract. He took them to a bowl and he beat Purdue. What more can you expect from Indiana football. It is not like it is Indiana basketball or soccer. You have to know who you are.

This was the first of the two Indiana based "bold predictions" I made at the beginning of the season. The second part was that they would hire Luke Fickle as their new coach. We will see about that.

I doubt a Big 10 school would hire Fickle. They know that if he does well it would put him at the front of the list to take over for JT when he retires. Actually that logic probably works for any school that is looking for a long term solution at HC.
 
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Fox

Buckeye1976 posted this on Scout...

Updated Dec 30, 2010 4:37 PM ET
BLOOMINGTON, Ind. (AP)

Brent Pease is the new offensive coordinator at Indiana.
Pease has 20 years of coaching experience at five schools. He spent the past five seasons as Boise State's wide receivers coach, and was assistant head coach there the past four years.
The Broncos went 61-5 in his five seasons there, and he coached All-Western Athletic Conference receivers Austin Pettis, Titus Young and Jeremy Childs.
Pease was the offensive coordinator at Kentucky in 2001-02. He was quarterbacks coach at Montana in 1995, when the Grizzlies won the Division I-AA national title.
Pease played quarterback at Montana in 1985-86. He led the nation in total offense in 1986 and set nine school records during his career. He played two years in the NFL with the Houston Oilers.
 
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