-
Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
- Thread starter Nate
- Start date
scarletandgrey
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult!
I don't mind it. If he left it would just be another "average" team for us to walk all over every year. Without solid competition within our own conference we would become "softies" when we played stronger more developed teams. Better competition makes a better football team and drives our level of excellence. No gauranteed wins in the Big Ten anymore...Well except Indiana.....
Upvote
0
Even though I live in Tallahassee, I work with half a dozen Iowa guys (our company stole them all from General Dynamics).
As near as I can tell, Ferentz means as much to them as Tressel means to us. I realize that he hasn't brought them a National Championship; but their standards are lower than ours. This isn't a point that I make with them, they're good guys and there's no point in ticking them off. It is however, a point they have acknowledged.
Ferentz making more than Tress is not about his value as a coach; it's about market value. It is generally believed that other "buyers" with deep pockets (NFL) have interest and would be a temptation to Ferentz. Conversely, it is generally believed that Tress is a Buckeye for life (or longer).
As near as I can tell, Ferentz means as much to them as Tressel means to us. I realize that he hasn't brought them a National Championship; but their standards are lower than ours. This isn't a point that I make with them, they're good guys and there's no point in ticking them off. It is however, a point they have acknowledged.
Ferentz making more than Tress is not about his value as a coach; it's about market value. It is generally believed that other "buyers" with deep pockets (NFL) have interest and would be a temptation to Ferentz. Conversely, it is generally believed that Tress is a Buckeye for life (or longer).
Upvote
0
He's definitely breathed some life into Iowa, and it is certainly a tough place to play up there now, as we've found out. That said, I think the days of "Trev Alberts' Iowa" are over. I think they will level off, as a 7-5, 8-4, maybe 9-3 team most years...not bad, decent, rack up some bowl wins in Florida, but not elite either...a step above Minnesota, but below us over, say, a ten year period, though in any season they could certainly be a contender.
Upvote
0
crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
Totally disagree. I have no problem with having a top heavy league, instead of a top 2 and then average teams 3-9.
If year in and year out tOSU, scUM, psu, and Iowa are mainstays in the top 25 that makes for a very competitive league and will help especially when the NCAA realizes that their best teams from the SEC and Big ten arent getting into the championship game b/c they are playing a much harder schedule than what is being played in the Pac-10, ACC, and Big XII. Maybe just maybe they will wise up and have a playoff.
I am all for Iowa having a good team, as long as we can continue to knock them off and they continue to give scUM problems.
Upvote
0
The Man
The truth
You really don't think the NCAA is smart enough to do a CFB playoff do you? I don't care how tough any league is it makes no difference to them. So you want Iowa to be really good but never beat OSU? Don't think that makes much sense either, and is kind of an oxymoron. I'd rather deal with UM and PSU and have a win over Iowa pretty much guaranteed, especially as tough as our OOC schedule is for the next 10 years.
Upvote
0
crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
Didnt mean to come across so strong, but I think eventually they are going to be forced into it.
That was more of a joke about us beating Iowa every year.:)
I would rather have more tough games, it just better for the program IMO, I hate teams like a Miami when they played in the Big East or USC to an extent now. Yeah they are/were good teams, but they werent tested during the regular season.
The better schedule the more recruits too, b/c they see the big games you are playing year in and year out. Much like all the kids liked what they saw last year with the Texas game and with ABC going to more primetime games you can bet that is going to be us in games against Iowa and psu if both teams are good.
Upvote
0
I don't like to see Ferentz earn more than Tressel. Ferentz may have more pro potential, and I think that's a valid argument about NFL temptations, but I don't think he is a better college football coach than Tressel and I hate to see it.
I realize that I am motivated in by conflicting perceptions.
On one hand, I want the Big Ten to be the top conference. I want to know that when we win it, we beat the best.
On the other hand, Notre Dame is signalling that it will drop its schedule strength. That makes it more likely that it will lose fewer games and that, coupled with the media darling bias they receive, will make it harder and harder for us to get into a national championship game if we lose a Big Ten game.
It's not clear how all of this will play out. We got a lot of media love for taking on Texas in our preseason and for signing on such tough teams in the future. Maybe Jabba screws up the next couple of years by failing to meet expectations and we get lots more love. A Notre Dame loss to TSUN this year would do a lot to start that ball rolling. I mean, Jabba's had months, right?
Who knows? But whichever way it goes, I would not be disappointed if Ferentz moved on to the NFL.
I realize that I am motivated in by conflicting perceptions.
On one hand, I want the Big Ten to be the top conference. I want to know that when we win it, we beat the best.
On the other hand, Notre Dame is signalling that it will drop its schedule strength. That makes it more likely that it will lose fewer games and that, coupled with the media darling bias they receive, will make it harder and harder for us to get into a national championship game if we lose a Big Ten game.
It's not clear how all of this will play out. We got a lot of media love for taking on Texas in our preseason and for signing on such tough teams in the future. Maybe Jabba screws up the next couple of years by failing to meet expectations and we get lots more love. A Notre Dame loss to TSUN this year would do a lot to start that ball rolling. I mean, Jabba's had months, right?
Who knows? But whichever way it goes, I would not be disappointed if Ferentz moved on to the NFL.
Upvote
0
scarletandgrey
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult!
Could be but the way I read it was $2.84 million per year with a $1.44 million bonus upfront.
Upvote
0
Link
Kirk Ferentz earns big raise, bigger expectations
<!-- CONTENT --> The Hawkeye football coach's raise makes him the third highest paid coach nationally.
<script language="JavaScript">varUsername = "[email protected]";document.write("ANDREW LOGUE");</script>ANDREW LOGUE
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
August 7, 2006
People are bound to talk about Kirk Ferentz's $2.7 million yearly income.
It'll probably be discussed this afternoon when the Iowa football coach meets with reporters during the Hawkeyes' annual media day.
National analysts will mention Ferentz's status as the highest paid coach in the Big Ten Conference throughout the fall. And fans will chat on message boards or debate on radio shows if Iowa fails to make good on the expectations that come when a coach receives a $1.4 million raise during the offseason.
"It's out there," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, who earns $1.2 million a year, according to research by The Des Moines Register. "All those contracts are public, and it's part of the conversation."
Ferentz created a buzz this summer when his new contract placed him third nationally behind Notre Dame's Charlie Weis ($3.3 million) and Southern California's Pete Carroll ($3 million).
It also upped the ante for a Hawkeye program that has appeared in four consecutive January bowl games.
"It won't affect me at all," Ferentz said last week. "I never went to my job any differently, when I was a teacher at Worcester Academy, a grad assistant at Pitt or a line coach at Iowa.
"Those things are all separate in my mind. Business is business and what you do in your profession is totally separate."
Money may not change a coach, but sometimes it alters what is demanded of him.
"I think people are viewing coaches almost like professional athletes," said Purdue's Joe Tiller, who makes $1.1 million annually. "They expect a pro baseball player, if he gets a new contract, never to strike out again.
"As a coach, certainly expectation levels change."
Most, however, are willing to make that sacrifice.
"If Purdue would pay me (what Ferentz makes)," Tiller said with a wink, "I wouldn't mind fans thinking that."
To Minnesota's Glen Mason, who makes $1.65 million, success is a requirement regardless of a coach's salary.
"You don't hear anybody saying the other thing, 'Well, that guy makes half of what (the opposing coach) makes, so I guess he shouldn't beat him,' " Mason said. "Let's face it. People are always going to be critical of those who are making a lot of money. And there will be people who don't think they're worth it."
Mason and Ferentz helped their universities upgrade facilities by directing winning programs.
Iowa will complete an $89 million renovation of Kinnick Stadium just in time for the Sept. 2 opener against Montana. Minnesota begins construction on a new $248 million stadium next year.
"I think that pressure has always been there," Mason said. "There are lots of things that are talked about as far as job descriptions of a major college football coach. But what it comes down to is really winning and losing."
Often administrators, boosters and fans elevate coaches into the economic stratosphere, in hopes of preventing them from leaving for another school.
"Many of us, Kirk and myself included, didn't really enter this passion with the idea that it was going to be this type of money," said Ohio State's Jim Tressel, who makes $2.4 million. "The reality of it is, there's a market in every type of profession and one ought to be in line with the market.
"But I think deep down, you always want to feel as if you're worthy."
Kirk Ferentz earns big raise, bigger expectations
<!-- CONTENT --> The Hawkeye football coach's raise makes him the third highest paid coach nationally.
<script language="JavaScript">varUsername = "[email protected]";document.write("ANDREW LOGUE");</script>ANDREW LOGUE
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
August 7, 2006
People are bound to talk about Kirk Ferentz's $2.7 million yearly income.
It'll probably be discussed this afternoon when the Iowa football coach meets with reporters during the Hawkeyes' annual media day.
National analysts will mention Ferentz's status as the highest paid coach in the Big Ten Conference throughout the fall. And fans will chat on message boards or debate on radio shows if Iowa fails to make good on the expectations that come when a coach receives a $1.4 million raise during the offseason.
"It's out there," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, who earns $1.2 million a year, according to research by The Des Moines Register. "All those contracts are public, and it's part of the conversation."
Ferentz created a buzz this summer when his new contract placed him third nationally behind Notre Dame's Charlie Weis ($3.3 million) and Southern California's Pete Carroll ($3 million).
It also upped the ante for a Hawkeye program that has appeared in four consecutive January bowl games.
"It won't affect me at all," Ferentz said last week. "I never went to my job any differently, when I was a teacher at Worcester Academy, a grad assistant at Pitt or a line coach at Iowa.
"Those things are all separate in my mind. Business is business and what you do in your profession is totally separate."
Money may not change a coach, but sometimes it alters what is demanded of him.
"I think people are viewing coaches almost like professional athletes," said Purdue's Joe Tiller, who makes $1.1 million annually. "They expect a pro baseball player, if he gets a new contract, never to strike out again.
"As a coach, certainly expectation levels change."
Most, however, are willing to make that sacrifice.
"If Purdue would pay me (what Ferentz makes)," Tiller said with a wink, "I wouldn't mind fans thinking that."
To Minnesota's Glen Mason, who makes $1.65 million, success is a requirement regardless of a coach's salary.
"You don't hear anybody saying the other thing, 'Well, that guy makes half of what (the opposing coach) makes, so I guess he shouldn't beat him,' " Mason said. "Let's face it. People are always going to be critical of those who are making a lot of money. And there will be people who don't think they're worth it."
Mason and Ferentz helped their universities upgrade facilities by directing winning programs.
Iowa will complete an $89 million renovation of Kinnick Stadium just in time for the Sept. 2 opener against Montana. Minnesota begins construction on a new $248 million stadium next year.
"I think that pressure has always been there," Mason said. "There are lots of things that are talked about as far as job descriptions of a major college football coach. But what it comes down to is really winning and losing."
Often administrators, boosters and fans elevate coaches into the economic stratosphere, in hopes of preventing them from leaving for another school.
"Many of us, Kirk and myself included, didn't really enter this passion with the idea that it was going to be this type of money," said Ohio State's Jim Tressel, who makes $2.4 million. "The reality of it is, there's a market in every type of profession and one ought to be in line with the market.
"But I think deep down, you always want to feel as if you're worthy."
Upvote
0
This is from the bottom portion of the linked article.
usatoday
Iowa's Iwebema held out of practice
IOWA CITY — Iowa junior defensive lineman Kenny Iwebema has been held out of fall practice by coach Kirk Ferentz, who says the player has "some personal items that need to be cleaned up."
Ferentz did not elaborate but said he's hopeful Iwebema can rejoin the Hawkeyes by next week. Iwebema was a first-team All-Big Ten pick last season.
"Basically he just didn't live up to what we're looking for for all of our team members. He's got some things he has to get resolved," Ferentz said Monday. "When he does that, we'll welcome him back."
Iowa kept Iwebema on its 105-man roster.
usatoday
Iowa's Iwebema held out of practice
IOWA CITY — Iowa junior defensive lineman Kenny Iwebema has been held out of fall practice by coach Kirk Ferentz, who says the player has "some personal items that need to be cleaned up."
Ferentz did not elaborate but said he's hopeful Iwebema can rejoin the Hawkeyes by next week. Iwebema was a first-team All-Big Ten pick last season.
"Basically he just didn't live up to what we're looking for for all of our team members. He's got some things he has to get resolved," Ferentz said Monday. "When he does that, we'll welcome him back."
Iowa kept Iwebema on its 105-man roster.
Upvote
0