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Larry Brown (Official Thread)

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proof that there is a God and he likes me. I can't wait for the first Bill Simmons article about this. as a part-time Knicks fan while living in NYC who gladly converted to a Cavs fan when I moved back to Ohio, I cannot wait to watch Isiah run the Knicks into the ground faster than he did the CBA. This may actually let some of my fellow alumni begin to forget about the Bob Hill-era at Fordham. I expect the inevitable meltdown in New York to rival some other legendary hack jobs: Rich Kotite in Philadelhia, Rick Pitino in Boston, June Jones in San Diego, Tim Floyd in Chicago, etc.

No point guard, seven 6-6 swingmen who are all horribly average, two guys who will fight each other for the ball yet neither of which still has the ability to take over a game (Francis and Marbury), and Eddy Curry just for laughs. this is going to be great...
 
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What a friggin' joke. Let's see, this guy destroyed our roster with his trades/signings, why don't we make him the coach, too.

I'm not a Knicks fan but what the hell could Dolan be thinking about? Brown has won everywhere he's been (eventually) and Thomas has sucked everywhere he's been as a management employee.

What a joke of a franchise.
 
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ESPN

Thursday, June 22, 2006
Knicks fire Brown, name Thomas new coach

The New York Knicks fired coach Larry Brown on Thursday, replacing him as coach with president and general manager Isiah Thomas.

Brown's future had been in question since reports surfaced last month that owner James Dolan wanted to buy out his contract. The Knicks finished 23-59, tying the franchise record for losses, in Brown's first season.

On Thursday, Dolan made the switch official.

"Larry has had a long and storied career. We hired him last summer with the expectation that he would be with the Knicks for a long time. Sometimes decisions work and sometimes they don't," Dolan said. "After careful consideration, despite the best intentions from everyone involved, this current structure did not work for us last season and I did not think it was going to improve next season."

Thomas, who joined the Knicks as president and general manager on Dec. 22, 2003, previously served as a head coach with the Indiana Pacers for three seasons from 2000-01 through 2002-03. His Pacers teams were 131-115 record, making the playoffs in each of his three seasons.

"No one in our organization is happy with last season and we all accept responsibility for our performance," Thomas said. "This has been a difficult time for the entire organization and our fans. Today begins the 2006-07 season for the Knicks, and I strongly believe we are on the right track to take major steps in our rebuilding process to achieve our goal of being one of the premier teams in the NBA."
 
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I also look forward to Isiah falling on his face as a coach. He apparently saw what Pat Riley did and figures he can do the same. But the team that Thomas has assembled is a joke.
 
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Which team would you rather coach? keep in mind New York is so buried in contracts that they probably won't see the light of day to make a serious off-season move for years...

New York's depth chart

PG - Stephon Marbury/Nate Robinson
SG - Jamal Crawford/Steve Francis
SF - Jalen Rose/Qyntel Woods
PF - Maurice Taylor/Channing Frye
C - Eddy Curry/Jerome James

Miami's depth chart

PG - Jason Williams/Gary Payton
SG - Dwayne Wade
SF - Antoine Walker/James Posey
PF - Udonis Haslem/Shandon Anderson
C - Shaquille O'Neal/Alonzo Mourning

According to what I heard on the radio yesterday, Miami brings everyone back except for possibly Payton and Mourning. Mourning may retire and Payton may either retire or looks for another team, although the journalist from Miami felt confident that Payton would sign another one-year deal with Miami.
 
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Larry Brown is laughing all the way to the bank. I wish I could make 50 mil for one season of work.

Me too!!!

Knicks fire Larry Brown as coach <!-- END HEADLINE -->
<!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer 1 hour, 45 minutes ago



NEW YORK - The New York Knicks put Larry Brown out of his coaching misery Thursday, ending weeks of uncertainty by firing the Hall of Fame coach with four years and a reported $40 million left on his contract. President and general manager Isiah Thomas will replace Brown as coach.


In Brown's one season in New York, the Knicks stumbled to a 23-59 record — second worst in the NBA and matching the most losses in club history — while Brown publicly feuded with Stephon Marbury and other players.
But the postseason may have been even more difficult for Brown.
His coaching status had been in limbo since reports surfaced in May that owner James Dolan was looking to buy out Brown's contract. It was at about that time that Brown called himself a "dead man walking" because of the uncertainty.
Brown's agent, Joe Glass, had said he wouldn't accept a buyout, so the Knicks took their time with the decision. That created an awkward situation in which Brown was running the Knicks' workouts of draft prospects without knowing what role he had within the organization. The draft is Wednesday.
"No one in our organization is happy with last season and we all accept responsibility for our performance," Thomas said in a statement released by the Knicks. "This has been a difficult time for the entire organization and our fans.
"Larry Brown is a great coach, but for various reasons, bringing him to the Knicks did not turn out the way we had hoped and we wish him the best in the future."
It's the second straight ugly ending for Brown, who was bought out by the Pistons last season despite leading Detroit to the NBA finals, winning one title, in both of his seasons there.
The Knicks then gave the Brooklyn native what he called his "dream job" with hopes that he could return his hometown team to the playoffs. But despite a league-high payroll of more than $120 million, the result was perhaps the most embarrassing season in franchise history.
Brown, who missed three games in April because of illness, had only one worse season as a coach, when he went 21-61 with the <FORM class=yqin action=http://yq.search.yahoo.com/search method=post> </FORM>San Antonio Spurs in 1988-89.
The bickering with Marbury — a favorite of Thomas and Dolan — just added to the chaos. Brown and Marbury clashed when Brown coached the U.S. team in the 2004 Olympics, and the relationship was closely watched from the moment Brown arrived in New York.
In March, Marbury vowed to play more aggressively next season, because playing Brown's way wasn't leading to enough wins. Brown fired back that Marbury already had enough freedom and should do what was best for the team, and the back-and-forth continued for four days before Brown pulled Marbury aside to settle it.
Other players said they were confused about their roles with the team, as Brown used more than 40 different starting lineups, easily the most in the league. Thomas acquired Steve Francis and Jalen Rose during the season, but neither made much impact.
The use of Francis was particularly questionable, because it was expected that he would start alongside Marbury in the backcourt. Instead, he frequently came off the bench while Brown tried to decide if he was better suited to being the point guard or shooting guard.
Still, Thomas said after the season ended that Brown would return. However, Brown had acknowledged that he didn't know what Dolan thought of his performance — and it turns out the owner wasn't happy.
Neither Brown nor Glass returned phone messages left Thursday.
Thomas joined the Knicks as president and GM in December 2003. He was coach of the Indiana Pacers for three seasons through 2002-03, compiling a 131-115 record and leading them to the playoffs in each season before he was fired when Larry Bird took control of the basketball decisions.

Thomas has been criticized for his performance since joining the Knicks, who haven't made the postseason since 2004 and haven't won a playoff game since 2001 — even as the payroll increased. The Knicks don't even have what would have been the No. 2 pick in the draft because Thomas included it in the trade with Chicago for center Eddy Curry.
Thomas becomes the Knicks' fifth coach in the last five years. Jeff Van Gundy left early in the 2001-02 season and has been followed by Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens and Herb Williams before Brown.
Brown coached the Pistons to the NBA title in the 2003-04 season. He missed 17 games the following year with the Pistons because of hip replacement surgery. That led to a bladder problem that required surgery.
"Larry has had a long and storied career. We hired him last summer with the expectation that he would be with the Knicks for a long time," Dolan said. "Sometimes decisions work and sometimes they don't." Brown is 1,010-800 in 23 seasons as an NBA coach, making previous stops in Denver, New Jersey, San Antonio, the Los Angeles Clippers, Indiana, Philadelphia and Detroit. He also coached four seasons in the ABA and won a national championship with Kansas in 1988.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_knicks_brown_5
 
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Isiah is an evil genius. He's not as dumb as everyone thinks. He can't possibly be as dumb as he acts. So I'm convinced that his goal, from the start, has been to run the Knicks in the ground. Now that he has full control, I'm looking forward to a single-digit wins season.
 
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Isiah is an evil genius. He's not as dumb as everyone thinks. He can't possibly be as dumb as he acts. So I'm convinced that his goal, from the start, has been to run the Knicks in the ground. Now that he has full control, I'm looking forward to a single-digit wins season.

May be true, but there's no LeBron on the Horizon. This current team may trump anything the Clippers have ever done.
 
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What a friggin' joke. Let's see, this guy destroyed our roster with his trades/signings, why don't we make him the coach, too.

I'm not a Knicks fan but what the hell could Dolan be thinking about? Brown has won everywhere he's been (eventually) and Thomas has sucked everywhere he's been as a management employee.

What a joke of a franchise.

The problem with the Knicks is Dolan. He ran The WIZ (retail electronics chain in NY area) into the ground. He made bad personnel decisions there and it looks like it has translated to the Knicks. Larry Brown deserves better. At least he will not have that headache anymore.....
 
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Dispatch

NBA NOTEBOOK
Thomas has just one season to turn around the Knicks
Tuesday, June 27, 2006

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Isiah Thomas has one year to turn around the Knicks — something Larry Brown couldn’t do. And if Thomas doesn’t, he’ll be gone, too.
"I’m saying this right with Isiah here. This is his team," Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan said yesterday. "He made this bed. There’s nobody better than him to make this thing go forward.
"But he has to do that and he has one year, one season to do that. At this time next year Isiah will be with us if we can all sit here and say that this team has made significant progress towards its goal of eventually becoming an NBA championship team. If we can’t say that, then Isiah will not be here."
The remarks by Dolan were his first since firing Brown as coach Thursday and replacing him with Thomas, the team president and general manager.
Thomas assembled the roster that went 23-59 to tie the franchise record for losses in a season. And though Dolan said the Knicks are still rebuilding, he wants to see results next season.
"It’s his ship to steer," Dolan said, "his ship to make go fast, his ship to crash. His ship."
Thomas said he was prepared to work under the deadline and would not sacrifice his plan to build with young players — the Knicks have two first-round picks in the draft Wednesday. "I’ve been in pressure situations before," Thomas said. "All my life has basically been about pressure and about having to get it done. Just because you say it publicly does not make me afraid of it or shy away from it. We’ve got a job to do, we’ll get it done."
 
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Isiah sounded less than excited at the microphone when talking about the task at hand. Their only hope is to hope to trade Jalen Rose this summer to clear smoe cap space. Because they draft 20th overall, there is no one in this draft who will still be around at that point that can help them next year. Most likely they will go big, possibly Olexsiy Pecherov of Ukraine. They really like Saer Sene of Senegal but the Jazz have supposedly fallen in love with him too. Either way, neither of them can be any worse (or any more out of shape) than Eddy Curry. Word is that they will likely trade their 29th pick to Miami so the Heat can draft Guillermo Diaz and Isiah really wants Dorrell Wright (the Heat's 1st round pick in 2004) in return. If by some miracle they are able to get Sene and Wright, they could possibly win 40 games next year, which still might not be enough to save Isiah's job. But if they do the predictable, which is take a combo guard with their 20th pick, who will be stuck behind Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson, and Josh Boone with their 29th pick, then this team may not crack 30 wins...again.
 
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