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Loser Llllloyd is at it again calling Tressel real "slick" for not voting and saying he would have. I think Tressel showed a lot of class for not voting because of the conflict of interest. Link and its about halfway down the page on this espin article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2685119
Florida beat Michigan on Sunday in the only game that mattered.
The Gators, who lobbied hard for this victory, were picked to play No. 1 Ohio State for college football's national championship, ending any chance for the Wolverines to get the rematch they so desired and thought they deserved.
But Florida got in by a whisker -- just a hundredth of a point in the Bowl Championship Series Standings.
The Gators had a BCS average of .944, and the Wolverines were just behind at .934. The teams were tied in the computer ratings, but Florida had a 38-point lead in the Harris poll and a 26-point advantage in the coaches' poll.
All these factors were sure to set off renewed calls to scrap the BCS and go to a playoff. Count Florida coach Urban Meyer as supporter of that plan.
"We're beyond the fact of do we need a playoff," he said. "It's now, can we get one."
Of course, Southern California could have made things simpler by beating UCLA on Saturday. Instead, the second-ranked Trojans were upset 13-9, dropping in the standings and clearing the way for Florida (12-1) or Michigan (11-1).
The Gators leapfrogged idle Michigan by winning the Southeastern Conference championship game, 38-28, over Arkansas.
"It's well deserved, and I'm proud of it," Meyer said of the Gators' selection.
The BCS Championship Game is Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.
Michigan's consolation prize is a Rose Bowl bid to play USC (10-2), a classic Big Ten vs. Pac-10 matchup of teams left to wonder what could have been.
"I don't think they [Florida] would have moved ahead of us if USC would have won the game," said Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.
In other bowls:
• Big 12 champion Oklahoma will meet unbeaten Boise State in the Tostitos Fiesta on Jan. 1.
• Big East champion Louisville will play ACC champion Wake Forest in the FedEx Orange on Jan. 2.
• LSU will take Florida's spot in the Allstate Sugar and play Notre Dame on Jan. 3.
When the Wolverines ended their regular season with a 42-39 loss to the Buckeyes two weeks ago, they talked about getting another swing at their Big Ten rivals.
While Michigan was left to wait and hope, the other contenders still had games to play.
As Florida padded its resume, second-year coach Meyer became very vocal about getting a chance to play Ohio State, especially when it appeared the Gators would be left out.
He called for a playoff and suggested the BCS should be imploded if the SEC champ again was left out of the championship game -- the way undefeated Auburn was in 2004.
In the end, he said he didn't think voicing his opinions about the BCS helped push his team into the title game.
"It's an imperfect system," Meyer said Sunday. "If you want a true national championship, the only way to do it is on the field.
Carr agreed: "I hope one day we have a system where all the issues are decided on the field."
But Ohio State coach Jim Tressel, however, isn't so sure about a playoff system.
"With a 12-game season, it would be next to impossible to have a 16-team playoff," he said Sunday. "We'll continually improve the system. As you look at it over the past few years, it has gotten better and better."
It's always something with the BCS. The system was created to make sure No. 1 and No. 2 played in the final game of the season, but rarely has there been a title game everybody agreed upon. If it's not too many unbeaten teams, which was the case in '04 when USC beat Oklahoma for the title, it's not enough, which has usually been the case. Last year, when USC and Texas were the only undefeateds, was an abberation.
"What we've got is an extremely exciting regular season that the BCS actually enhanced by making so many games important not only in the region that they were played but nationally," said Mike Slive, BCS coordinator and SEC commissioner. "The next part is here we are with many deserving teams.
"We need to continue over the next few years to look at the postseason to make sure it works the way we want it to work."
Slive repeatedly has said he's willing to discuss changes, including the so-called plus-one model, which would have the championship matchup set after the big four bowl games are played.
This year, the BCS worked out for the Gators, who can focus on winning their second national championship. The first came in 1996, when Steve Spurrier's Gators beat Florida State in the Sugar Bowl -- a rematch, coincidentally, of a November regular-season game won by the Seminoles.
Michigan had hoped for a similar scenario, but Carr chose not to publicly pitch for his team.
It's unclear whether that would have helped or whether Meyer swayed some poll voters. Maybe when faced with the possibility of a Michigan-Ohio State rematch, the voters, like Meyer, cringed.
At least one coach, who voted for Michigan, said the possibility of a rematch didn't influence his vote.
"I don't think coaches are, quite frankly, the best people to vote on that poll," said Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, who had Michigan No. 2 and Florida No. 3. "But I take it very seriously. I know it's important, because we're dealing with people's lives."
Tressel decided not to get involved at all. He has a vote in the coaches poll but abstained.
"We felt it was somewhat of a conflict of interest," Tressel said.
Tressel said he didn't feel right putting Ohio State in the middle of the decision of who the Buckeyes are supposed to play for the national title.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, a member of the coaches' poll, said there was no scenario in which he would choose not to vote. On Tressel's abstention, Carr said: "I thought it was real slick."
Meyer could empathize with Tressel.
"I made a decision a year ago when I was asked to vote, not to vote for this very reason," he said.
Instead of the 104th meeting between the Wolverines and the Buckeyes, Florida and Ohio State will play for the first time ever.
The Buckeyes have won four national titles, including the 2002 title under Tressel. Ohio State upset Miami 31-24 in an overtime classic at the Fiesta Bowl.
Last year, Ohio State beat Notre Dame 34-20 in the Fiesta Bowl, giving the country a taste of what was to come this season.
The Buckeyes have been No. 1 since the preseason. Led by Heisman Trophy front-runner Troy Smith, they've run roughshod over their competition. Only Michigan and Illinois stayed within 17 points of Ohio State.
Senior quarterback Smith capped his season with four touchdown passes against the Wolverines. He finished with 30 TD passes and five interceptions.
Florida, meanwhile, seemed to struggle almost every week. The Gators won at Tennessee by one in September, and none of their last five victories over I-A teams have been by more than 10 points.
The Gators relied on their defense, a unit ranked 10th nationally in yards allowed and sixth in scoring.
Florida's senior quarterback, Chris Leak, entered the season as a Heisman contender but ended up sharing the job with freshman sensation Tim Tebow.
Tebow's tough running has complemented Leak's passing, but unlike the explosive Buckeyes, Florida's offense has had its ups and downs. The Gators' only loss came Oct. 18 at Auburn, a 27-17 setback that was a four-point game until the Tigers scored on the final play.
"They have a great football team," Tressel said. "When you can win the SEC championship, you're a great football team."
The Gators are back in the BCS for the first time since Spurrier left after the 2002 Orange Bowl, but Boise State (12-0), Louisville (11-1) and Wake Forest (11-2) will make their BCS debuts. Oklahoma (10-2) is a BCS veteran, making its fifth appearance since the 2000 season.
Boise State from the Western Athletic Conference is the second team from outside the original six BCS conferences to play in the big-money bowl games. Meyer's Utah team was the first in 2004.
Notre Dame (10-2) is making its second straight BCS appearance under coach Charlie Weis. The Fighting Irish will be trying to snap an eight-game bowl losing streak against LSU (10-2).
The Tigers were set to make their first Rose Bowl presented by Citi appearance, but USC's loss has them playing in their home state. The Sugar Bowl returns to New Orleans this season after being temporarily relocated to Atlanta last season because of Hurricane Katrina.


i dont see any bashing by lloyd. he has handled the manner with a lot of class so far it seems to me.
 
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again, this needs repeating:

tressel stated before The Game that he felt that a team must win its conference to play for the national title. it's not as though he would have voted scum second, as long as he held to his prior statement. if anything, tressel's abstaining narrowed the gap between scum and uf.
 
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I certainly don't see a "bash" here. I respect Carr's feelings, and I'd be a helluva lot more bitter publicly than he has been over this decision (although I feel it was the right decision). Tressel has the privelage to cast a vote, he certainly doesn't have an "obligation."
 
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There are ways to voice your frustration, especially if it is perceived to be justified. And then there are ways to voice your frustration. You don't call a collegue slick, period. That is flat out disrespect shown towards another individual, an individual that flat out does not deserve this kind of crap thrown at him. Carr has not only cast himself, but the whole program in bad light.
 
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Tressel was going to get "bashed" by someone no matter what he did. Personally, I like the decesion. No matter his pick, there would be speculation that he was trying to choose his opponent rather than pick the best team. No win situation here.

Furthermore, his choice could have been used to motivate the other team if his choice didn't turn out to be in the title game.
 
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