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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

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Woody1968 said:
I don't think they really played anyone. Their best opponent was a Nebraska team that gave up 60+ points to Colorado, and their second best opponent was Syracuse. Yeah, they had talent. That doesn't make them the best team of all time.
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Besides talent and wins. What else does then? You can't fault who you play. The story of the 2015 Buckeyes
I've also heard the they played no one argument for many of the OU teams that had ridiculous win streaks as well, and yet they're still considered legendary teams. Though all the points made sense that there wasn't much competition, but who they played, they certainly did destroy and I haven't seen many teams do that since regardless of competition
 
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Woody1968 said:
I don't think they really played anyone. Their best opponent was a Nebraska team that gave up 60+ points to Colorado, and their second best opponent was Syracuse. Yeah, they had talent. That doesn't make them the best team of all time.
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They played five top-15 opponents. They didn't play in a self-perpetuating bubble like the SEC. They played in the same situation as OSU. Losing to them proves they were a quality opponent. Slaying them (even in a dogfight) proves they weren't a quality opponent.

As for his actual statement of "one of the best", that's quite easy to support

Miami Hurricanes' pursuit of perfection in 2001: an oral history
The 2001 Miami Hurricanes were the most unique of teams: Born under NCAA sanctions, and hardened by a BCS controversy, which kept them out of the title game a year before. By the time the 'Canes took the field in 2001, no one was going to stop them, and ultimately no one did: Miami averaged almost 43 points a game that season, at a time when it wasn't vogue for college football teams to routinely score 40.

The Hurricanes gave up 9.75 points per game on defense, against a schedule that featured five Top 15 teams. Not to mention, they also set an FBS record by beating back-to-back ranked opponents by a combined score of 124-7, and their 26-point victory at Penn State, tied for the worst home loss of Joe Paterno's 46-year career at the school. Their 37-14 victory over Nebraska was more one-sided than it appears on paper; Miami was up 34-0 at halftime, before pulling its starters.

Yet the true legacy of the 2001 Miami Hurricanes aren't numbers on a stat sheet ... instead, the names on the roster. Simply put, it's the greatest collection of talent assembled on a college football roster. Guys like Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Jonathan Vilma and Jeremy Shockey were the stars, backed up by future legends like Frank Gore, Sean Taylor, Antrel Rolle and Kellen Winslow Jr.

Overall, 38 players were drafted off the 2001 Hurricanes, including a staggering 17 first rounders (this, after Miami lost four first rounders following the 2000 season). What might be more impressive isn't the number of guys who ended up in the NFL, but what they did once they got there; to date, the 2001 Miami Hurricanes have tallied 43 Pro Bowl appearances (and counting) as a group.
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17 1st round picks
38 draft picks
43+ pro bowls (as of last september)

That list above of stars? It doesn't have room for NFL studs like McGahee, Shockey, DJ Williams or a handful of great college players.


That team was absurdly loaded, to the point where they had a bunch of elite NFL talent running the scout team.
 
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jwinslow said:
They played five top-15 opponents. They didn't play in a self-perpetuating bubble like the SEC. They played in the same situation as OSU. Losing to them proves they were a quality opponent. Slaying them (even in a dogfight) proves they weren't a quality opponent.
That team was absurdly loaded, to the point where they had a bunch of elite NFL talent running the scout team.
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They played 3 top 15 opponents. Nebraska, Florida State and Syracuse. Washington and Virginia Tech did not finish in the top 15. Like I said, they may have been a great collection of talent, that went on to do great things. Whatevs. I watched their games, and they were not one of the all time greats as far as I am concerned. They were impressive against Rutgers and Temple, though.
 
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Woody1968 said:
They played 3 top 15 opponents. Nebraska, Florida State and Syracuse. Washington and Virginia Tech did not finish in the top 15. Like I said, they may have been a great collection of talent, that went on to do great things. Whatevs. I watched their games, and they were not one of the all time greats as far as I am concerned. They were impressive against Rutgers and Temple, though.
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No they played 5, unless the Google is wrong. You're wanting to penalize them for what happened to their opponent's ranking after they slaughtered them. Are there a lot of teams that go undefeated against a schedule of 4+ teams that finish in the top fifteen teams other than the cyclical sec nonsense?

They didn't go on to great things. They did them in college and then backed them up in the nfl.

They went 11-1 the year before. 01 was their revenge tour. Their slide in 02 involved a perfect record until multiple over times in the desert.

Could you list which team was better in the past fifteen years? I can't think of any clear cut choices, which puts them in the all time category to me.

I wouldn't call them the greatest team like some might, but they're in the all time discussion. That roster has to be the most outrageous in the BCS Era by a mile
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Enough of this 2001 and 1980s stuff please. Let's just focus this thread on how much miami sucks now, how much they have sucked for the last decade, and how we expect them to suck for the foreseeable future.
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I prefer to remember them as the obnoxious ass clowns they were leading up to the Fiesta Bowl

then when they lose to a clown school I can still get quite a satisfying laugh out of it
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Enough of this 2001 and 1980s stuff please. Let's just focus this thread on how much miami sucks now, how much they have sucked for the last decade, and how we expect them to suck for the foreseeable future.
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Okay then.


Same problems looming large for Miami

If a five-game losing streak to Florida State isn't enough to anger Miami fans, there are a couple other disturbing trends. Under Golden, the Hurricanes are 15-5 in August and September, but 16-18 the remainder of the season. The loss to Cincinnati was their seventh double-digit setback in the past 18 games.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/same-problems-looming-large-for-miami/ar-AAf2PsK
 
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DiamondBuck said:
The loss to Cincinnati was their seventh double-digit setback in the past 18 games.
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I mentioned it last night while watching the game, but with 4:40 to play, 1 timeout left, and trailing by 11 points, Golden went for a TD on 4th and goal from the Cincinnati 5. In a situation where you know you need two scores against a draining clock you have to take the FG as soon as it is there to be taken, and you also cannot score 0 points on the possession. You make it an 8 point game with more than four minutes on the clock, so kick it deep, stop the run, then get the ball back with about 2:25 remaining and one timeout still in your pocket.

Well, Golden had his offense go for the TD right there and they failed. The game was effectively over at that point since Miami would still need two possessions and at best would only get one.

I bring that up in response to the stat that he's had seven double-digit losses in 18 games, because it kind of speaks to the old adage "put your players in the best position to win." Is there that much difference in losing by 8 or 11? Yes, there is. Losing by 8 means you at least took the FG and gave your kids a shot to get a stop, get the ball back and put together a game tying drive and go to overtime. Down 11 and scoring no points on that drive, their defense quit and Cincinnati ran out the clock.
 
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jwinslow said:
No they played 5, unless the Google is wrong. You're wanting to penalize them for what happened to their opponent's ranking after they slaughtered them. Are there a lot of teams that go undefeated against a schedule of 4+ teams that finish in the top fifteen teams other than the cyclical sec nonsense?

They didn't go on to great things. They did them in college and then backed them up in the nfl.

They went 11-1 the year before. 01 was their revenge tour. Their slide in 02 involved a perfect record until multiple over times in the desert.

Could you list which team was better in the past fifteen years? I can't think of any clear cut choices, which puts them in the all time category to me.

I wouldn't call them the greatest team like some might, but they're in the all time discussion. That roster has to be the most outrageous in the BCS Era by a mile
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They were absolutely a juggernaut. Still a joy to watch that game and our defense just continually pound them. That team was loaded. As was ours.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
This team hasn't been good since like when Wham was good.

Yeah, Wham.
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:lol:

wham.jpg
 
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