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Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by DaytonBuck, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    In class today my prof told us that Hawaii was likely to leave the union in the next twenty years. She said the natives weren't too happy with the US. Do you know anything about this?
  2. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Don't anticipate a response anytime soon.

    I just saw report that Mili had been tarred, feathered, strapped to an outrigger and sent out to sea.
  3. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    Not Mili, but you can start here;

    Just bear in mind that the views expressed there represent the more hard-line view against statehood. While living there for a few years, I never met a local who was really absolute on the issue -- and I lived in an apartment in Waikiki. On the other hand, all my neighbors saw me come and go in various Marine attire, so maybe I wasn't the one they wanted to talk about sovereignty to. Frankly, I'd be shocked if Hawaii left the Union in 20, 30, or even 50 years. But you never know. They have some valid gripes, be sure of that, but statehood isn't just a horrible thing for Hawaii these days.
  4. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    thanks for the site Clarity, very interesting.
  5. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Dayton: Keep in mind that the current indigenous Hawaiian population is very small, and few of full or major Hawaiian ancestry hold significant office. Many whine how Hawaii was "overthrown" by the US...well, to an extent it was, but actually it was overthrown by businessmen and not the US government. The Hawaiians put up no fight at all during this "overthrow", and this is this same people that murdered Capt Cooke. Also, every other state in the union except for Alaska was obtained by our "overthrowing" to local indigenous population, and I haven't heard of any other state thinking about leaving.

    Tell your teacher she's full of shit. Seriously, tell her I said she is...
  6. DaytonBuck

    DaytonBuck I've always liked them

    I need you as a guest lecturer in class Milli :biggrin:
  7. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Dayton: Hawaii has a huge identity crisis. Everything that is of Hawaiian origin is "original and unique", as if there are no other island nations or territories on Earth. Modern Hawaiian contemporary music has incorporated a heavy Jamaican flavor and many times is referred to as "Jawaiian" music. Anytime anyone from Hawaii does well outside of Hawaii (Jasmine Trias on American Idol, Michelle Wie in golf, etc.) they are huge news. Hawaii is essentially the "bastard child" of our union...
  8. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    yea, but Hawaii also has some fun rum drinks that their bartenders make :biggrin:

    I would guess that there is more $$ flowing in from the US gov. than comming out in the form of taxes... I would guess that Hawaii would be cutting it's nose to spite it's face by defecting (and that is assumeing the US Gov. would allow them to in the first place... the southerners know what happens if you try to defect...)
  9. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    I believe a teleconference is in order here
  10. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    I thought at one time the Japanese would own the islands.

    Is that still the case?
  11. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    bucknola: The Japanese lost their ass royally here in the early-mid 90s after buying up everything in sight in the 80s.

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