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Need another reason to hate Walmart? Here ya go...

scooter1369;876184; said:
Walmart sucks

Attorney: Wal-Mart Collected On Deaths

TAMPA - When Karen Armatrout died in 1997, her employer, Wal-Mart, collected thousands of dollars on a life insurance policy the retail giant had taken out without telling her, according to a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court.

these must be the same folks who worked for Deutschesbahn from '39 thru '45, forcing the folks being set to the concentration camps to buy a ticket for their trip.
 
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Dryden;1158183; said:
The WalMart just opened last month, so we'll see, but just within the past year we've lost one of our malls anchor stores, about 10% of the malls tenants, a couple of the surrounding restaurants, and several furniture stores nearer the downtown area. Many of the strip malls just turn over tenants and start ups year after year. Hell, in the past 25 years Lowes has been in three different buildings, each one larger than the one built before it, and the previous one left abandoned for about five years.

Lancaster is just moving mile-by-mile up 33 to eventually becoming a suburb of Columbus. They may as well rename it now to Pickeringcaster-Carrollsburg.

Build a Kroger, close a Big Bear.

Build a Red Lobster, close a Maugers.

One area to look at closer to Columbus is the old Brice Park. There's virtually nothing there worth visiting other than 'The Thirsty Turtle' since everything moved to the new developments in Pickerington around the WalMart.


Is there anything wrong with these old dumps closing and some new businesses updating the area a bit?

I've been through Lancaster a few times heading to Athens and the town could use some updating.

Capitalism at its finest.
 
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Jimmy Carter;1158201; said:
Is there anything wrong with these old dumps closing and some new businesses updating the area a bit?

I've been through Lancaster a few times heading to Athens and the town could use some updating.

Capitalism at its finest.
I do not have a problem with capitalism, my issue is with the defense that new retailers, big box supercenters like WalMart, specifically, are good because they "create jobs."

Much of what you see through Lancaster that you say needs updating was newly built within the last 20 years. From Columbus, the further down 33 towards Athens you go, its like a trip through time, from the 90s, to the 80s, to the 60s, all the way back to the 1800s, which is about when you hit Nelsonville. :biggrin:
 
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I agree with Dryden's statement that you can't argue that Wal-Marts are creating jobs or filling a need. I don't have a problem with new businesses driving out the old, however. Supply and demand. Mass humanity speaks, and retailers listen. Where once we had Ace Hardware and the corner supermarket, now we have Home Depot and Wal-Mart. While some are unhappy, and legitimately complain that they don't get the same service and knowledge, the majority of humanity wants quick and fast. Putting everything under the sun in one place accomplishes that task. The big "Box Mart" type of store tends to introduce the areas that are becoming hot spots, for whatever reason. Canal built a new Wal-Mart several years ago, and a new Meijer just opened last week two miles down the road. Stores and restaurants will follow. While I'm sure this will drive existing stores and restaurants out of business, I (as a consumer) am still happier because the restaurants that I like are now more accessible and more convenient to me. The old restaurants that are driven out of business can't compete because they aren't as good. If they were, they wouldn't lose the business.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1158234; said:
I agree with Dryden's statement that you can't argue that Wal-Marts are creating jobs or filling a need. I don't have a problem with new businesses driving out the old, however. Supply and demand. Mass humanity speaks, and retailers listen. Where once we had Ace Hardware and the corner supermarket, now we have Home Depot and Wal-Mart. While some are unhappy, and legitimately complain that they don't get the same service and knowledge, the majority of humanity wants quick and fast. Putting everything under the sun in one place accomplishes that task. The big "Box Mart" type of store tends to introduce the areas that are becoming hot spots, for whatever reason. Canal built a new Wal-Mart several years ago, and a new Meijer just opened last week two miles down the road. Stores and restaurants will follow. While I'm sure this will drive existing stores and restaurants out of business, I (as a consumer) am still happier because the restaurants that I like are now more accessible and more convenient to me. The old restaurants that are driven out of business can't compete because they aren't as good. If they were, they wouldn't lose the business.

Aren't you actually disagreeing with Dryden and agreeing with me?

Places go out of business for a reason, someone else can provide the same service for cheaper or at a quicker pace.

I'm not one that thinks just b/c something has been in business for awhile that it has a right to stay open.

Good riddance.
 
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Jimmy Carter;1158282; said:
Aren't you actually disagreeing with Dryden and agreeing with me?

Places go out of business for a reason, someone else can provide the same service for cheaper or at a quicker pace.

I'm not one that thinks just b/c something has been in business for awhile that it has a right to stay open.

Good riddance.

Not if I'm understanding Dryden correctly. My take on his opinion is that, while he personally doesn't necessarily like the "Box Marts", what he finds offensive is the argument that they create jobs, when in fact they do not. The statement made that there are no other jobs in Ohio, and that Wal-Mart is the state's sixth largest employer makes them a valuable commodity is a flawed statement. The truth is, the Wal-Mart jobs, at best, replaced jobs that were lost because of the Wal-Mart. It is a false statement to say that Wal-Mart creates new jobs.

I agree with this assertion. Personally, however, I don't have a problem with these "new" developments, as the surrounding businesses will typically be businesses that I would frequent.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1158304; said:
Not if I'm understanding Dryden correctly. My take on his opinion is that, while he personally doesn't necessarily like the "Box Marts", what he finds offensive is the argument that they create jobs, when in fact they do not. The statement made that there are no other jobs in Ohio, and that Wal-Mart is the state's sixth largest employer makes them a valuable commodity is a flawed statement. The truth is, the Wal-Mart jobs, at best, replaced jobs that were lost because of the Wal-Mart. It is a false statement to say that Wal-Mart creates new jobs.
Correct.

Now, my issue with the development aspect is separate, albeit relevant to the "WalMart effect."

I understand better businesses will be built and poorer businesses will go under, but what I have issue with is that the old properties and concrete jungles that the last generation of business owners built aren't put to use for the next tide, at least not properly. The businesses follow the home builders, and the home builders build wherever the fuck they think they can with no rhyme or reason to the plan, and its the residents of the city that are left with the mess.

I got no problem with building a Burger King and running off Burger Chef, and rebuilding a better McDonalds and chasing off Hardees, or whatever, but it is disappointing that many of these major companies don't give a damn about the cities and towns where they're located and just leapfrog all over the place.

Rumor around Lancaster last year was that WalMart is going to buy a childrens soccer complex from the city parks office on the west side of town to build a WalMart Express, because its ultimately cheaper to buy a park and build on that than to demolish the vacant Big Bear/Hearts supermarket and associated abandoned strip mall right next door and build there.
 
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The last time I checked Wal Mart isn't holding a gun to anyone's head, forcing them to shop or work there. If the old businesses they replace in some areas were so loved by the locals, they would have nothing to fear from Wal Mart because the people wouldn't go to Wal Mart.

But hell, it seems the thing to do today is hate any large successful business, so let's just get rid of Wal Mart, the oil companies, Microsoft, and anyone else who pisses off unions, socialists and bureaucrats - who are all pretty much cut from the same cloth. I'm sure America will be a much better place without them, and the government (and their millions of unionized employees) will take care of all of our wants and needs. :roll2:
 
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cincibuck;1158197; said:
these must be the same folks who worked for Deutschesbahn from '39 thru '45, forcing the folks being set to the concentration camps to buy a ticket for their trip.

Really? You are going to compare Walmart Lawyers to Nazis? Give me a break, like em or don't but comparing them to people who killed Jews in the Holocaust is a bit far fetched.
 
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Man bitten by rattlesnake in Walmart garden center

PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. (AP) A man is recovering after authorities say he was bitten by a snake inside a garden center at a Wal-Mart Supercenter in Pembroke Pines.
Authorities say the 42-year-old man was taken to the hospital Sunday for treatment, where he received antivenin for the pygmy rattler bite. His name has not been released.
Miami-Dade Fire Capt. Ernie Jillson, who leads the agency's Venom Response Team, said the snake bit the man on the right hand. He said the team was contacted about the bite and responded.
Pygmy rattlers are one of six venomous snakes in Florida. Officials say bites from pygmy rattlers are painful, but are rarely fatal.

Entire article: cbs4.com - Florida Wire
 
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0hgG-TIxY&feature=related]YouTube - Walmart Part three[/ame]

:slappy:

It's funny because it's true. America made Wal Mart big, now some of us want to blame Wal Mart for being big, as though "we the people" had nothing to do with it.

Shop at Jim's Drugs (and pay more) if it makes you feel better, but what happens when Jim becomes "too" successful? At what point will we be required to hate him for it? :roll2:
 
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Jake;1200443; said:
:slappy:

It's funny because it's true. America made Wal Mart big, now some of us want to blame Wal Mart for being big, as though "we the people" had nothing to do with it.

Shop at Jim's Drugs (and pay more) if it makes you feel better, but what happens when Jim becomes "too" successful? At what point will we be required to hate him for it? :roll2:

A conversation between two typical Wal-Mart customers -- Man and Wife

Wife - look at these prices - we should buy more!

Man - hey, look at this cheap tool set - I should buy more!

Wife - look at how cheap the food is, I should buy more and stock up!

Man - cheap beer - must buy more!

Wife - (looks in purse) - wait, how can I afford all this stuff! You've got to put that tool set back.

Man - Fuck that - why don't you get a job?

Wife - Where?

Man - WalMart! I hear they're hiring.

Wife - Fuck that! I'm not working for WalMart, they're evil.
 
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OSUsushichic;1200457; said:
600 Starbucks are closing. Are Wal-Marts next?
Besides a large footprint, I don't see many similarities.

Starbucks is primarily limited to coffee drinks at premium prices.
Walmart has basically everything at budget prices.

You can give up expensive flavored drinks.
You can't give up household supplies and food.
 
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