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Need another reason to hate Walmart? Here ya go...

scooter1369

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Walmart sucks

Attorney: Wal-Mart Collected On Deaths

TAMPA - When Karen Armatrout died in 1997, her employer, Wal-Mart, collected thousands of dollars on a life insurance policy the retail giant had taken out without telling her, according to a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court.
 
What a great racket. Secretly take out life insurance policies on your employeess then deny them access to reasonable health care!

When will this country wake up and start hanging these people from telephone poles?
 
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Not so fast

Amazing to me how people still cite things they see written in the paper as complete truth. This is apparently an allegation brought up by an ATTORNEY of all things. I for one would probably wait for the Wal-Mart response before making a knee jerk reaction. I for one can't fathom the hatred for Wal-Mart. It is probably one of the all-time great business models of all time and has saved millions of people millions of dollars over the years. Union workers that feel they deserve to demand excessive wages for running a cash register or stocking shelves are at the root of the complaining against Wal-Mart. How about developing skills beyond what a pimple-faced sixteen year old can learn in thirty minutes, so those skills might be in demand by an employer. You don't deserve a great living with expensive benefits because you can place rivets in a fender (replaced by robots) or run a cash register ( replaced by auto scan). If a machine can do a job in your stead, you better learn a trade that is in demand and can't be automated.
 
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Some of the underlying legal arguments as laid out in less sensational language at CourtTV.

Armatrout's "dead peasant" suit, filed Wednesday in Tampa, Fla.'s U.S. District Court, accuses Wal-Mart ofmaking money off her death without having a valid claim to her estate.
Typically, such a stake, known as an "insurable interest," is reserved for individuals so closely connected to the person insured that he or she would suffer significant financial damage if the person died.
The complaint also charges that the Arkansas-based corporation misappropriated Karen Armatrout's name and personal information for the purposes of taking out the policy.
"Wal-Mart and the insurers used employees' private information to buy and sell policies," Armatrout's Texas attorney, Mike D. Myers, told CourtTVnews.com. "As matter of public policy, Wal-Mart should not be permitted to keep the policy's benefits because it did not have the necessary insurable interest in the lives of its rank-and-file employees to warrant being a beneficiary."
From 1993 to 1998, Wal-Mart was not alone in reaping the tax benefits associated with corporate-owned life insurance, which came to be known by critics as "dead peasant" insurance, based on a character in Nikolai Gogol's "Dead Souls" who buys up the contracts of recently deceased serfs.
Lawyers for Armatrout, who say that Wal-Mart took out such policies on 350,000 "rank and file" employees like Karen Armatrout during that time, have also participated in lawsuits against Golden Corral, Winn Dixie and Camelot Music.
The attorneys, who have brought three identical lawsuits against Wal-Mart in Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana, say the company made use of favorable tax regulations in Georgia, which allowed the company to take out corporate-owned life insurance policies without the employees' knowledge.
Wal-Mart settled the suits in Texas and Oklahoma, where the company paid back 100 percent of the benefits, amounting to just over $5 million.
OK - so the ethical merits of the practice aside, when faced with the suits in the above states, Wal-Mart payed back the benefits in full to the estates of the respective deceased - whose descendants probably saw 2/3rd of each award at best.
Along with Armatrout's case in Florida, another suit is pending in Louisiana.
In the previous cases, Wal-Mart attempted to argue that Georgia law applied because that was where the policies were purchased and paid out. But the courts found that the proper venue for deciding whether Wal-Mart had an insurable interest was the deceased's state of residence.
The locus argument adopted by the courts is cogent and void of any need of emotional content spouted by Myers or others.
Only six states, Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Vermont, allow companies to take out life insurance policies on their employees without notifying them. Most states have laws requiring that companies advise their employees and seek their consent before purchasing the policies.
Notable is the fact that the states in which such practices are still allowed fall into both the Red and Blue camps. The eagerness of State Legislatures to cozy up to the insurance industry knows no political bounds.
It is also worth noting that the primary reason for this change in policy at Wal-Mart was the alteration of tax laws, this diminished the value of the policies to the corporation.

In the interests of full disclosure I do find the practice of buying these policies, solely to benefit the company, repellent. It smacks of treating the employees as chattel, like inventory in their warehouse.
 
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I don't hate Walmart. What I hate is the fact that 95% of people whine and moan and complain about them and then go there and buy stuff.
Go Figure. you complain and then go keep them in business and allow them to do their mean things. That makes a lot of sense .
:slappy:
 
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ORD_Buckeye;876186; said:
What a great racket. Secretly take out life insurance policies on your employeess then deny them access to reasonable health care!

When will this country wake up and start hanging these people from telephone poles?
I guess we have to get the KKK involved .
:rofl::rofl::slappy::slappy:
 
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Best Buckeye;876725; said:
I don't hate Walmart. What I hate is the fact that 95% of people whine and moan and complain about them and then go there and buy stuff.
Go Figure. you complain and then go keep them in business and allow them to do their mean things. That makes a lot of sense .
:slappy:

Never stepped foot in one. Never will
 
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sandgk;876728; said:
payed
Sometimes speaking two versions of the English language crops up.

Well sure, if you count obsolete versions. Colour me red. :biggrin:

I know that other posters have received grief when they've used that spelling, so I was just following the precedent, I couldn't give you special treatment over Thump.

Originally Posted by Thump
They payed him off in scratch-off lottery tickets.

OSU_Buckguy;814816; said:
did they?
 
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