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OSUBasketballJunkie
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6/21/05
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Paul Harris (J.Hawkins)
</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Dave Telep National Recruiting Director
Date: Jun 20, 2005
The 2005 NBA Players Association Top 100 Camp tips off this Wednesday on the campus of VCU in Richmond. Here’s a look at who’s attending the event.
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Scout.com will provide daily coverage of the NBA Camp beginning Wednesday evening. The following is a listing of teams and players who are participating at the event.
TEAM 1 -- Cole Aldrich, Stephen Curry, Paul Harris, Lazar Haywood, Gerald Henderson, Blake Hoffarber, Willie Kemp, Andrew Ott, Michael Sanchez, Brian Zoubek
TEAM 2 – Chase Budinger, Jeremy Franklin, Taj Gibson, Brandon Jennings, Johnnie Lett, Dwight Lewis, O.J. Mayo, Stanley Robinson, Andre Stephens, Seth Tarver
TEAM 3 – Demond Carter, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron Holmes, Kurtis Huelsman, Jonathan Kreft, Brook Lopez, K’Len Morris, Antron Pippen, Quincy Pondexter, Anjuan Wilderness
TEAM 4 – Dwayne Collins, Daniel Deane, Austin Freeman, Jonathan Hall, Gary Johnson, Dexter Pittman, Matthew Pressey, Edwin Rios, Deonta Vaughn, Bill Walker
TEAM 5 – Earl Clark, Keenan Ellis, Kenyan Harmon, Jahaziel Howard, Tory Jackson, Derrick Jaspers, Pierre Niles, Jerry Smith, Nolan Smith, Perry Stevenson
TEAM 6 – Jerryd Bayless, Wayne Ellington, Jordan Hill, Tywon Lawson, Hamady N’Diaye, Ralph Sampson, Ramar Smith, Chace Stanback, Julian Vaughn, Eric Wallace, Thaddeus Young
TEAM 7 – JeJuan Brown, Keith Clark, Bryan Davis, Edward Davis, Eric Hayes, Obi Muonelo, Jeremiah Rivers, Lawrence Westbrook, Heath White, Lewis Witcher
TEAM 8 – Duke Crews, James Dews, Tom Herzog, Marques Johnson, Kevin Love, Vernon Macklin, Adrian Oliver, Derrick Rose, Kyle Singler, Jerel Stephenson
TEAM 9 – Alan Bantom, Keegan Bell, Eric Gordon, Taylor Harrison, Josh Lomers, Antonio Pena, John Pietkiewicz, Scott Reynolds, John Rinaldi, Jamie Skeen, P’Allen Stinnett, Corey Stokes, Nic Wise
TEAM 10 – Jermaine Beal, Robert Byrd, Patrick Christopher, Isaiah Dahlman, Ray Hall, Taylor King, Andre McFarland, Matthew Shaw, Alex Stepheson, Will Walker
TEAM 11 – Darrell Arthur, Michael Beasley, DaSean Butler, Tyreke Evans, Eugene Harvey, Dennis Horner, Taishi Ito, Robin Lopez, Donald Sloan, Lance Thomas
TEAM 12 – Kevin Durant, James Keefe, Marsharee Neely, Reggie Redding, Richard Semrau, DaJuan Summers, Greivis Vasquez, Bryce Webster, Doug Wiggins, Trevon Willis.
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6/21/05
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Paul Harris (J.Hawkins)
</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Dave Telep National Recruiting Director
Date: Jun 20, 2005
The 2005 NBA Players Association Top 100 Camp tips off this Wednesday on the campus of VCU in Richmond. Here’s a look at who’s attending the event.
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Scout.com will provide daily coverage of the NBA Camp beginning Wednesday evening. The following is a listing of teams and players who are participating at the event.
TEAM 1 -- Cole Aldrich, Stephen Curry, Paul Harris, Lazar Haywood, Gerald Henderson, Blake Hoffarber, Willie Kemp, Andrew Ott, Michael Sanchez, Brian Zoubek
TEAM 2 – Chase Budinger, Jeremy Franklin, Taj Gibson, Brandon Jennings, Johnnie Lett, Dwight Lewis, O.J. Mayo, Stanley Robinson, Andre Stephens, Seth Tarver
TEAM 3 – Demond Carter, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron Holmes, Kurtis Huelsman, Jonathan Kreft, Brook Lopez, K’Len Morris, Antron Pippen, Quincy Pondexter, Anjuan Wilderness
TEAM 4 – Dwayne Collins, Daniel Deane, Austin Freeman, Jonathan Hall, Gary Johnson, Dexter Pittman, Matthew Pressey, Edwin Rios, Deonta Vaughn, Bill Walker
TEAM 5 – Earl Clark, Keenan Ellis, Kenyan Harmon, Jahaziel Howard, Tory Jackson, Derrick Jaspers, Pierre Niles, Jerry Smith, Nolan Smith, Perry Stevenson
TEAM 6 – Jerryd Bayless, Wayne Ellington, Jordan Hill, Tywon Lawson, Hamady N’Diaye, Ralph Sampson, Ramar Smith, Chace Stanback, Julian Vaughn, Eric Wallace, Thaddeus Young
TEAM 7 – JeJuan Brown, Keith Clark, Bryan Davis, Edward Davis, Eric Hayes, Obi Muonelo, Jeremiah Rivers, Lawrence Westbrook, Heath White, Lewis Witcher
TEAM 8 – Duke Crews, James Dews, Tom Herzog, Marques Johnson, Kevin Love, Vernon Macklin, Adrian Oliver, Derrick Rose, Kyle Singler, Jerel Stephenson
TEAM 9 – Alan Bantom, Keegan Bell, Eric Gordon, Taylor Harrison, Josh Lomers, Antonio Pena, John Pietkiewicz, Scott Reynolds, John Rinaldi, Jamie Skeen, P’Allen Stinnett, Corey Stokes, Nic Wise
TEAM 10 – Jermaine Beal, Robert Byrd, Patrick Christopher, Isaiah Dahlman, Ray Hall, Taylor King, Andre McFarland, Matthew Shaw, Alex Stepheson, Will Walker
TEAM 11 – Darrell Arthur, Michael Beasley, DaSean Butler, Tyreke Evans, Eugene Harvey, Dennis Horner, Taishi Ito, Robin Lopez, Donald Sloan, Lance Thomas
TEAM 12 – Kevin Durant, James Keefe, Marsharee Neely, Reggie Redding, Richard Semrau, DaJuan Summers, Greivis Vasquez, Bryce Webster, Doug Wiggins, Trevon Willis.
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Just wanted to point out that Mayo will be 19 when he graduates in 2 years, so yesterday's NBA agreement will not prevent him from going directly into the NBA after high school.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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You are correct BB73....it will also not effect Bill Walker.
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dozerbuck
You shut your mouth when you're talking to me
The above statement is false. The details to the rule were released.
The rule states that a player must be nineteen AND 1 year removed from highschool. So that means any player entering the draft must meet both requirements before they can be drafted.
This means that college/university, NBDL, or Europe for these kids.
The rule states that a player must be nineteen AND 1 year removed from highschool. So that means any player entering the draft must meet both requirements before they can be drafted.
This means that college/university, NBDL, or Europe for these kids.
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That clarification needs a little further work. A player in the U.S. needs to be 1 year removed from his high school graduation, and if he's 17 when he graduates, he can play in the NBA at 18. International players must be 19 by the calendar year in which they are drafted, so if they were born in November or December, they can also play in the NBA before they turn 19.
The rule seems unreasonable. It appears that 19 year-olds graduating from high school can't play right away, but some that are younger than that can play in the NBA. Stern seems to have designed the rule to get the NBA scouts out of the high school gyms, which is a valid goal. But the rule seems somewhat unfair, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it legally challenged by some player who will be 19 when he graduates.
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SAN ANTONIO -- When commissioner David Stern announced the NBA's minimum age had been raised from 18 to 19, he was being overly simplistic and inaccurate.
Under terms of the new six-year collective bargaining agreement, there could still be 18-year-olds playing in the NBA.
Previous eligibility rules stated that American players could not become draft-eligible until their high school class graduated -- wording that allowed some players to enter the league at 17. The new rules mandate players to wait one year after their high-school class graduates, meaning that players born in November or December could be appear in NBA games prior to their 19th birthday -- provided they graduated at 17.
Rules for international players also changed. Previously, a foreign-born player needed to turn 18 before the draft. Under the new rules (which will not affect this year's draft next Tuesday in New York), international players must turn 19 by the end of the calendar year in which they become draft eligible -- again leaving a two-month window in which an 18-year-old might be playing in the NBA.
The rule seems unreasonable. It appears that 19 year-olds graduating from high school can't play right away, but some that are younger than that can play in the NBA. Stern seems to have designed the rule to get the NBA scouts out of the high school gyms, which is a valid goal. But the rule seems somewhat unfair, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it legally challenged by some player who will be 19 when he graduates.
cbs.sportsline
SAN ANTONIO -- When commissioner David Stern announced the NBA's minimum age had been raised from 18 to 19, he was being overly simplistic and inaccurate.
Under terms of the new six-year collective bargaining agreement, there could still be 18-year-olds playing in the NBA.
Previous eligibility rules stated that American players could not become draft-eligible until their high school class graduated -- wording that allowed some players to enter the league at 17. The new rules mandate players to wait one year after their high-school class graduates, meaning that players born in November or December could be appear in NBA games prior to their 19th birthday -- provided they graduated at 17.
Rules for international players also changed. Previously, a foreign-born player needed to turn 18 before the draft. Under the new rules (which will not affect this year's draft next Tuesday in New York), international players must turn 19 by the end of the calendar year in which they become draft eligible -- again leaving a two-month window in which an 18-year-old might be playing in the NBA.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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6/23/05
6/23/05
Mayo says his plan was to go to college from the beginning. Ohio State, Illinois, Texas, UConn, Louisville, Cincinnati and Indiana are said to be showing strong interest. Mayo thinks the new rule makes college basketball more interesting.<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="98%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>
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What This Means For Mayo
</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Dave Telep National Recruiting Director
Date: Jun 23, 2005
RICHMOND – This week the collective bargaining agreement pretty much nixed any plans of America’s finest high schoolers jumping to the league after this season. So, what does a guy like O.J. Mayo think about the new rule?
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BGriffBuckeye
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Think if we get Oden/Conley we can land Mayo/Walker? Matta likes to have 2 guys on the floor able to bring the ball down and Mayo has been praised for his size and PG abilities. Getting the top player in the country 2 years in a row would be absolutely out of this world.
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We'll see... right now realize that Oden & Conley are probably coming to OSU giving them 4 top-25 players in 06 (conley recently just outside of the top-25, but he's definitely deserving of higher)...
They also have a very good shot at Lance Thomas a top-25 player that plays SF in NY. Luke Harangody is a 4-star C/PF blend that is down to OSU/ND.
And in 07 Eric Gordon and Dallas Lauderdale are top talents very interestd in OSU... Gordon is probably the best SG in his class.
I'd be very leary about bringing in Mayo, especially given our recent basketball reputation. Perhaps many of the perceptions are wrong, but everyone was convinced Mayo would be going pro for the money and that there could be eligibility issues.
They also have a very good shot at Lance Thomas a top-25 player that plays SF in NY. Luke Harangody is a 4-star C/PF blend that is down to OSU/ND.
And in 07 Eric Gordon and Dallas Lauderdale are top talents very interestd in OSU... Gordon is probably the best SG in his class.
I'd be very leary about bringing in Mayo, especially given our recent basketball reputation. Perhaps many of the perceptions are wrong, but everyone was convinced Mayo would be going pro for the money and that there could be eligibility issues.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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I will still be suprised if Mayo ever plays in college, in my opinion he is a good candidate to play overseas for a year before going in the draft. I just don't think he wants to attend college.
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prep schools seem to be the winner from the new rule. Look for many of these guys to go there rather than enroll in college.
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smitty03
Somebody's Heine' is crowdin' my icebox...
I disagree, college basketball is the winner of the new rule. If kids have the choice to either go prep or go to college, I say they go to college. The will get more exposure, experience college life, play in front of bigger crowds, play on national TV, etc.
Like 44820 said, OJ Mayo might be a different case. I also think he will play overseas, because of a large shoe deal. I wouldnt be suprised if he went to college for a year, but with the money situation his family is in, my bet is he will opt for the shoe deal and play overseas like 44820 said.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Article in today's Cincinnati Enquirer:
Sunday, June 26, 2005 <!-- ARTICLE HEADLINE -->
Mayo's NBA dreams on hold
New rule means NCH star might - gasp! - go to college
By Paul Daugherty
Enquirer staff writer
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photosidebar_body colSpan=2>O.J. Mayo's NBA future has to wait a year, after a change Tuesday in league rules.
We'll begin the regularly scheduled column momentarily. First, let's deal with the Asinine Comment of the Year, made recently by shoe-company barker Sonny Vaccaro to The Enquirer's Dustin Dow, as it applied to a local high school kid, O.J. Mayo:
"I pray to God O.J. doesn't have to spend a day in college."
Yeah, the tragedy of an education is a killer. Why crack a book when you can slip on a pair of sneakers and play basketball? Why work a couple nowhere jobs to pay for the 15 hours you're hauling this quarter? Why waste your time studying, learning, aspiring? Listen to Vaccaro. Pray you don't go to college.
It looks as if God didn't listen to Sonny. O.J. Mayo probably will have to spend a year in a hellhole of higher learning, for free. May the angels watch over him.
The NBA and its players agreed in principle Tuesday on a new contract. Part of the agreement would bump from 18 to 19 the league's minimum eligibility age and make U.S. kids wait a year after their high school class graduates before entering the draft.
What it means for 17-year-old high school junior O.J. Mayo is, he'll be cooling his heels for a year after he gets his diploma from North College Hill.
He doesn't want to spend a post-graduate year in prep school. Why should he? So he can get up at 6 every morning and make his bed? He doesn't know much about the National Basketball Developmental League, where he'd be better than almost everybody there the first day he pulled on a jersey. He doesn't want to sit for a year on some shoe company's dole.
On Saturday, O.J. said he always wanted to go to college. The NBA's new age limit "doesn't make a difference," he said. A couple weeks ago, O.J. said, "Why go to college and stress all the studies when you can go to the NBA and do what you love and get paid millions?"
He's a kid. Kids change their minds or take coaching on how to say things. Or both. Maybe tomorrow, O.J. will say he wants to get his MBA or study cooking at the Sorbonne.
It's not O.J. who's got it wrong. It's the adults. We do our best to screw up kids. It's a wonder we don't succeed more than we do.
O.J. said he had 12 text messages from college coaches within hours after the rule change Tuesday. He said his guardian and AAU coach, Dwaine Barnes, had received 30 phone messages. This, even as college coach after college coach decried the age- limit change as insignificant.
"Very seldom does one year of college benefit either the player or the program," decided Arizona's Lute Olson. Right, and if O.J. had Arizona on his list, Lute and his lackeys would be on the kid's porch tonight.
Not only is O.J. Mayo the best 17-year-old basketball player in America - as determined by those strangely concerned with such things - he's a very nice kid who, incredibly, is not yet oiled by the slicks that cover the sport he loves.
"Thank you, sir, for taking the time to call," is what O.J. said, long distance, on Saturday, from yet another basketball camp/audition/meat market. This one, something called the National Basketball Players Association Top 100 camp, was in Richmond, Va. The best kid players spend their summers shuttling from this camp to that tournament. Usually, it's college coaches they crave. In Mayo's case, it's NBA credibility. Or at least it was, until Tuesday.
Should an 18-year-old be allowed to pursue his dream immediately? Of course. Eighteen-year-olds die in Iraq, don't they? Case closed.
"College is good competition," O.J. decided. Good for him. He said UC is "definitely" in the mix. He also said it wouldn't matter to him who the coach was. Of course, in the past, he has said having Bob Huggins there was important. Kids say the darnedest things.
Meanwhile, the hope is that O.J. does what he wants. The wish is he can do it in a vacuum, free from bloodsuckers who'd suggest college is for saps and sinners. It's a big, tall wish.
"Tomorrow is never promised," O.J. said. "I just want to be me, be a kid."
Thanks for taking the time to call? Nope, O.J., thank you. For the humility. May you keep it as handy as your jump shot. It will serve you every bit as well.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/COL03/506260380/1068/SPT
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Sunday, June 26, 2005 <!-- ARTICLE HEADLINE -->
Mayo's NBA dreams on hold
New rule means NCH star might - gasp! - go to college
By Paul Daugherty
Enquirer staff writer
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photosidebar_body colSpan=2>O.J. Mayo's NBA future has to wait a year, after a change Tuesday in league rules.
We'll begin the regularly scheduled column momentarily. First, let's deal with the Asinine Comment of the Year, made recently by shoe-company barker Sonny Vaccaro to The Enquirer's Dustin Dow, as it applied to a local high school kid, O.J. Mayo:
"I pray to God O.J. doesn't have to spend a day in college."
Yeah, the tragedy of an education is a killer. Why crack a book when you can slip on a pair of sneakers and play basketball? Why work a couple nowhere jobs to pay for the 15 hours you're hauling this quarter? Why waste your time studying, learning, aspiring? Listen to Vaccaro. Pray you don't go to college.
It looks as if God didn't listen to Sonny. O.J. Mayo probably will have to spend a year in a hellhole of higher learning, for free. May the angels watch over him.
The NBA and its players agreed in principle Tuesday on a new contract. Part of the agreement would bump from 18 to 19 the league's minimum eligibility age and make U.S. kids wait a year after their high school class graduates before entering the draft.
What it means for 17-year-old high school junior O.J. Mayo is, he'll be cooling his heels for a year after he gets his diploma from North College Hill.
He doesn't want to spend a post-graduate year in prep school. Why should he? So he can get up at 6 every morning and make his bed? He doesn't know much about the National Basketball Developmental League, where he'd be better than almost everybody there the first day he pulled on a jersey. He doesn't want to sit for a year on some shoe company's dole.
On Saturday, O.J. said he always wanted to go to college. The NBA's new age limit "doesn't make a difference," he said. A couple weeks ago, O.J. said, "Why go to college and stress all the studies when you can go to the NBA and do what you love and get paid millions?"
He's a kid. Kids change their minds or take coaching on how to say things. Or both. Maybe tomorrow, O.J. will say he wants to get his MBA or study cooking at the Sorbonne.
It's not O.J. who's got it wrong. It's the adults. We do our best to screw up kids. It's a wonder we don't succeed more than we do.
O.J. said he had 12 text messages from college coaches within hours after the rule change Tuesday. He said his guardian and AAU coach, Dwaine Barnes, had received 30 phone messages. This, even as college coach after college coach decried the age- limit change as insignificant.
"Very seldom does one year of college benefit either the player or the program," decided Arizona's Lute Olson. Right, and if O.J. had Arizona on his list, Lute and his lackeys would be on the kid's porch tonight.
Not only is O.J. Mayo the best 17-year-old basketball player in America - as determined by those strangely concerned with such things - he's a very nice kid who, incredibly, is not yet oiled by the slicks that cover the sport he loves.
"Thank you, sir, for taking the time to call," is what O.J. said, long distance, on Saturday, from yet another basketball camp/audition/meat market. This one, something called the National Basketball Players Association Top 100 camp, was in Richmond, Va. The best kid players spend their summers shuttling from this camp to that tournament. Usually, it's college coaches they crave. In Mayo's case, it's NBA credibility. Or at least it was, until Tuesday.
Should an 18-year-old be allowed to pursue his dream immediately? Of course. Eighteen-year-olds die in Iraq, don't they? Case closed.
"College is good competition," O.J. decided. Good for him. He said UC is "definitely" in the mix. He also said it wouldn't matter to him who the coach was. Of course, in the past, he has said having Bob Huggins there was important. Kids say the darnedest things.
Meanwhile, the hope is that O.J. does what he wants. The wish is he can do it in a vacuum, free from bloodsuckers who'd suggest college is for saps and sinners. It's a big, tall wish.
"Tomorrow is never promised," O.J. said. "I just want to be me, be a kid."
Thanks for taking the time to call? Nope, O.J., thank you. For the humility. May you keep it as handy as your jump shot. It will serve you every bit as well.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/COL03/506260380/1068/SPT
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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I might be wrong, but my personal opinion is that Mayo will never play college ball.
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