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No doubt. I personally think Ehlinger has some great potential, but whatever coaching he’s getting from Beck will never help elevate him to the level he truly needs to be for Texas to be an 8-10 win team.
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
Hyperbole much, bro? My view is more along the lines of Urban's 9 units strong: The chain's only as strong as its weakest link: Based on a rather substantial body of evidence based on both results and the eye test at Nebraska, Ohio State, and now Texas, Beck looks like the weakest, or at least a pretty damn weak, link wherever he goes. That doesn't mean that every other coach and player is perfect by any means, and I never said that.
I don't have time to get deep into analysis here, but just at the most basic level, here are Ohio State's offensive PPG since Urban took over:
2012: 37.2 (increase of 12.7 PPG over 2011)
2013: 45.5
2014: 44.1
2015: 35.7 (Beck)
2016: 39.4 (Beck)
2017: 41.1
2018: TBD, but I'll bet it ends up being well over 40 PPG.
Hell, just for shits and giggles:
2015: Houston Cougars (Herman w/o Beck) 40.4 PPG
2016: Texas Longhorns (Herman w/ Beck) 31.9 PPG
2017: Texas Longhorns (Herman w/ Beck) 29.5 PPG
2018: Texas Longhorns TBD, but Maryland gave up more than the 29 points that Texas scored on them last week in 10 of their 12 games, including the Rutgers game, last year.
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HorseshoeFetish
Silver Bullet Supporter
For a second, I thought I was in the wrong thread and you were talking about Jim Harbaugh.
Laugh now, but with the right Luck, he too could be a QB whisperer.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
INSIDE THE BOX: NO. 5 OHIO STATE TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS IN SEASON-OPENER AGAINST OREGON STATE
Buckeye football is back.
After a nine-month hiatus, Ohio State football is back in the Shoe as the Buckeyes proved to be far too much for the Oregon State Beavers.
Here, we will touch on Dwayne Haskins Jr.'s first start and how it compares to past Ohio State quarterbacks, how Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins could outplay their 2017 standard, why the defense will lean on Bosa and co., and how Oregon State could foreshadow some high-point totals.
DWAYNE HASKINS IS READY TO TAKE THE REINS
Dwayne Haskins Jr. – stop me if you have heard this before – had a historic first-start against Oregon State. The Beavers could do little to stop Haskins and allowed him to throw for 313 yards and five touchdowns.
Since the beginning of Urban Meyer’s tenure at Ohio State, elite players at the quarterback position has been a staple. Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett, and Cardale Jones are some of the best in recent memory. When comparing first-starts, Haskins outperformed them all.
Haskins also threw for the most touchdowns (five) and had the most yards per rush attempt (12) of those quarterbacks compared.
In other news, Ohio State showed that the Read-Option-heavy offense of years past has been archived. Dwayne Haskins’s two rushing attempts indicate that the Buckeyes will be turning to a pro-style offense.
The fearsome running back duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins will likely pressure defenses while Haskins uses his arm to pick the secondary apart and take the top off.
WEBER AND DOBBINS WILL COMPLEMENT HASKINS
Ohio State’s running attack ground up a total 375 yards, 260 of which came from the starting duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins. Mike Weber added four touchdowns, three on the ground and one on a jet-sweep pass from Haskins.
Their total yards greatly surpassed last year’s average thanks to a huge effort from Weber. Weber got more touches and took advantage of them, outgaining Dobbins by over 100 yards. Additionally, Weber's 49-yard touchdown was the longest rush of the day.
Their combined attempts (35) was also much higher than last year’s average (21), again signaling a move towards a pro-style offense with Haskins staying in the pocket.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/data...usiness-in-season-opener-against-oregon-state
Buckeye football is back.
After a nine-month hiatus, Ohio State football is back in the Shoe as the Buckeyes proved to be far too much for the Oregon State Beavers.
Here, we will touch on Dwayne Haskins Jr.'s first start and how it compares to past Ohio State quarterbacks, how Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins could outplay their 2017 standard, why the defense will lean on Bosa and co., and how Oregon State could foreshadow some high-point totals.
DWAYNE HASKINS IS READY TO TAKE THE REINS
Dwayne Haskins Jr. – stop me if you have heard this before – had a historic first-start against Oregon State. The Beavers could do little to stop Haskins and allowed him to throw for 313 yards and five touchdowns.
Since the beginning of Urban Meyer’s tenure at Ohio State, elite players at the quarterback position has been a staple. Braxton Miller, J.T. Barrett, and Cardale Jones are some of the best in recent memory. When comparing first-starts, Haskins outperformed them all.
Haskins also threw for the most touchdowns (five) and had the most yards per rush attempt (12) of those quarterbacks compared.
In other news, Ohio State showed that the Read-Option-heavy offense of years past has been archived. Dwayne Haskins’s two rushing attempts indicate that the Buckeyes will be turning to a pro-style offense.
The fearsome running back duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins will likely pressure defenses while Haskins uses his arm to pick the secondary apart and take the top off.
WEBER AND DOBBINS WILL COMPLEMENT HASKINS
Ohio State’s running attack ground up a total 375 yards, 260 of which came from the starting duo of Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins. Mike Weber added four touchdowns, three on the ground and one on a jet-sweep pass from Haskins.
Their total yards greatly surpassed last year’s average thanks to a huge effort from Weber. Weber got more touches and took advantage of them, outgaining Dobbins by over 100 yards. Additionally, Weber's 49-yard touchdown was the longest rush of the day.
Their combined attempts (35) was also much higher than last year’s average (21), again signaling a move towards a pro-style offense with Haskins staying in the pocket.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/data...usiness-in-season-opener-against-oregon-state
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So...the game thread, in article form.The Grumpy Old Buckeye: OSU vs. Oregon State
Welcome to the first edition of the Grumpy Old Buckeye. In this column, my aim is to be the voice of negativity, even when things are generally pretty great. I’ll point out the things from each game that make me want to walk out onto my lawn in my bathrobe and yell at people about it. First up: Ohio State vs. Oregon State.
The Suspension
It all started before the game even kicked off. ABC’s broadcast started with a four-minute intro before the opening kickoff and none of it was related to the football game. Instead, the focus was on the Urban Meyer suspension, including a Bleacher Report-esque slide show of the timeline of events. Yes, it’s a big story and sure, there might be those four guys who just returned from the Amazon rainforest who may not have heard about it, but it feels like we’ve heard plenty about the story over the past several weeks and it’s a disservice to the players of both schools not to spend any time on key matchups or players to watch.
Kickoff Fair Catch Rule
If I wasn’t already salty about the broadcast intro, the opening kickoff reminded me of how dumb rule changes can be. A fair catch on a kickoff should not come out to the 25. That’s a tremendous reward for the receiving team and a penalty on a team with competent kickoff coverage. Special teams are part of the game. If you want to protect the players, that’s fine, but a fair catch should come out no further than five or 10 yards further up the field from where it was caught. If you want to fair catch it at the 5-yard line, you can have it at the 15. At worst, it should come out to the old touchback spot, the 20.
Big Plays Allowed
A common theme early in the game, which returned on Oregon State’s final drive of the first half, was allowing big plays. Most of these were short passes into the flats that turned into big gains. This was an issue a few years ago and it’s no surprise that having a suspect linebacker group and new players at safety that it came back. There was a busted coverage and terrible angles taken on the first Oregon State touchdown.
My biggest gripe was with the final drive of the first half when the Beavers achieved three of their five third-down conversions in the half. All of them were third-and-long situations. The first came on a play we’ve seen too often. Chase Young did well to pressure the quarterback and Kendall Sheffield was well positioned to intercept or knock away the pass. Instead, he did neither and allowed the completion on a deflection off his shoulder. Hopefully this won’t be a trend again for Sheffield. The last of the three conversions was the most maddening, as the Beavers picked up a third-and-19 on a simple draw play.
The Buckeyes weren’t done, with Antwuan Jackson completely botching a tackle to start the second half, and everyone else assumed he’d make the play, while Artavis Pierce bounced outside and ran 80 yards for a score. Pierce had another big run a drive later with Jahsen Wint taking a bad angle and the linebackers being too aggressive. Yuck.
Penalty Two-Fers
Chase Young and Jeffrey Okudah ramped up my blood pressure with a pair of identical mistakes just a couple plays apart. Young, who should be looking down the line at the ball, jumped offside twice. Those two penalties were bad, but Okudah doubled down on them by committing pass interference on both plays. Instead of 10 total yards allowed, the Buckeyes allowed 30.
Muffed Punt
Although it only resulted in a missed field goal, C.J. Saunders’ muffed punt was awful. But I don’t put it all on him. Not only did Damon Arnette not handle his business in blocking the Oregon State gunner, but he also crowded his own return man and ultimately created the turnover.
Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/09/grumpy-old-buckeye-oregon-state/
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Hetuck
Assistant Coach
The formula is more complicated than just one variable. The difference between 2014 and 2015 involved a lot more variables than Tim Beck. Like the two QB system, the insertion of Braxton Miller at wildcat, the growing pains of Isaiah Prince, the loss of Devin Smith, Warrinner's changing role, etc.
Scapegoat much, bro?
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
DISCUSSES OHIO STATE'S SEASON-OPENING WIN AGAINST OREGON STATE AND LOOKS AHEAD TO RUTGERS
The Eleven Warriors Web Report comes to you weekly from the Spectrum Sports studios in downtown Columbus, featuring our own Beau Bishop and Dan Hope along with former Buckeye linebacker Joshua Perry.
Entire article (but the video is basically it....
): https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...g-win-against-oregon-state-and-looks-ahead-to
The Eleven Warriors Web Report comes to you weekly from the Spectrum Sports studios in downtown Columbus, featuring our own Beau Bishop and Dan Hope along with former Buckeye linebacker Joshua Perry.
Entire article (but the video is basically it....
): https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...g-win-against-oregon-state-and-looks-ahead-to
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