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Ozzie Guillen vs. Jay Mariotti

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buckiprof said:
Ozzie should of called him a fag piece of shit! I can't stand the "man".

BTW, I am not a big Ozzie fan either. I tend to despise arrogance and that is what I get from Ozzie. I have hated the White Sox for about as long as I have hated the Reds, which will be 42 years in a couple of months. BUT, I absolutley love the way Ozzie manages a baseball team. IMO, watching the Sox play last year was a breath of fresh air in the AL. Some good old fashioned NL ball playing at times; sound in the fundamentals and the "little" things that win games.
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You're right Ozzie is a hot-headed big mouth but he knows how to manage a baseball team.
 
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Dispatch

6/25/06

BASEBALL NOTEBOOK

Guillen is still mad, says he might have to get ‘nasty’ with media

Sunday, June 25, 2006


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Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen reacted angrily after Friday night’s game when asked about a report on ESPNdeportes.com that quoted him as saying he would not undergo the sensitivity training that commissioner Bud Selig ordered.
Guillen was fined Thursday and ordered by Selig to undergo training after an obscenity-laden tirade against Chicago Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti in which the manager used a derogatory term for a homosexual.
Asked about the report, the manager responded with a long diatribe in which he said he first needs to take English classes "to understand what they’re talking about" and threatened to "start being nasty with the media" if they continued to ask questions about it.
"It’s a really uncomfortable situation for me," Guillen said after the White Sox beat Houston 7-4. "I don’t need this job. It’s hard every day. ... If someone tries to play games, I’m sorry, but you’ve got the wrong guy."
Guillen got up and walked out of the interview room. A few minutes later, he said through a team spokesman that he will undergo the training.
Guillen has said he did not mean to offend homosexuals and has apologized for using the word. But he stands by his criticism of Mariotti, who was not at U.S. Cellular Field when Guillen chastised him. Guillen was back in the dugout Friday after serving a one-game suspension, a punishment for reliever David Riske hitting St. Louis’ Chris Duncan with a pitch Tuesday night after two White Sox were plunked.
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The White Sox were down 9-2 in the 7th inning, and now are up to bat in the top of the 10th. They just have the Astro's number. 3 Grandslams, in 3 days. It's just all the better that it is happening to Houston, they are going to have a meltdown.


There isn't a more exciting team in baseball!
 
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BuckWrestler141 said:
The White Sox were down 9-2 in the 7th inning, and now are up to bat in the top of the 10th. They just have the Astro's number. 3 Grandslams, in 3 days. It's just all the better that it is happening to Houston, they are going to have a meltdown.


There isn't a more exciting team in baseball!
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are you fucking kidding me? that game is supposed to be on ESPN, so the extra innings package for today didn't include it. and of course, who is on espn? the fucking yankees.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
are you fucking kidding me? that game is supposed to be on ESPN, so the extra innings package for today didn't include it. and of course, who is on espn? the fucking yankees.
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That is a damn shame. It is the single greatest come back i've seen.

It's going into the 11th now. Astro's had men on 1st and 3rd in the 10th inning with 1 out. They brought in Jenks and in one pitch they got the double play.

Iguchi had a 3-run shot then the next inning a grand slam. to take it into extra innings. The best part of it is, it's wet there, and the crowd all stayed even in the 7th inning when it was 9-2.

First team to hit 3 grand slams in 3 straight games since 1993.
 
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illinoisbuckeye said:
Whatever happened to our freedom of speech?
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As people like Marge Schott and John Rocker found out; there is no "freedom of speech" in MLB. The interesting thing about MLB fines, Rocker claims that most players never pay them. In addition, he also claims that he sensitivity training is a "farce":

Updated: June 25, 2006, 4:44 PM ET
Report: Rocker calls sensitivity training a farce

Ozzie Guillen was ordered to attend sensitivity training for a homophobic slur he made about Chicago Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti. According to John Rocker, Guillen won't get anything out of it.
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"This is a free country. If he wants to use a lewd term, he should be able to use a lewd term. Can't you use a lewd term in America if you want?" -- John Rocker on Ozzie Guillen

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When Rocker was ordered to attend similar training after the former Braves reliever made offensive remarks in a Sports Illustrated story published in 1999, he left shortly after showing up, he told the Chicago Tribune.
"The guy told me when I got there I had to show up to make it look good for people, so after about 15 minutes I left and walked right out of the room and it satisfied the powers that be," Rocker told the newspaper.
Rocker was a teammate of Guillen's with the Atlanta Braves in 1998-99 and said he considers Guillen a friend. He defended Guillen's right to speak his mind.
"This is a free country. If he wants to use a lewd term, he should be able to use a lewd term," Rocker told the newspaper. "Can't you use a lewd term in America if you want?"
Guillen also was fined an undisclosed amount of money for his profanity-laced tirade against Mariotti.
On Friday, Guillen ruffled more feathers when he said he did not actually expect to attend the sensitivity training class.
"I don't think I'll be going, I don't think that'll happen," Guillen told ESPNdeportes.com in an interview at U.S. Cellular Field. The interview was conducted in Spanish.
"I think the commissioner ordered that in order to calm things down, but, obviously, to attend one of those, I'll have to take English lessons first," he added. "I'll do what I have to do, at least when I have time, but I don't think I'll take those sensitivity lessons."
A few minutes after leaving the interview room, Guillen said through a team spokesman that he would undergo the training.
Rocker was banned from baseball until May 1 by commissioner Bud Selig, who also imposed a $20,000 fine and ordered Rocker to attend sensitivity training for the remarks he made to Sports Illustrated, but an arbitrator reduced the suspension to the first two weeks of the season, cut the fine to $500 and allowed Rocker to report to spring training on March 2.
In the SI article, John Rocker said he would never play for a New York team because he didn't want to ride a train "next to some queer with AIDS". He also bashed immigrants, saying "How the hell did they get in this country?" He also called a black teammate a "fat monkey," spit on a toll machine and mocked Asian women.
"It was a farce, a way for the scared little man, Bud Selig, to get people off his [backside]," Rocker, speaking to the Tribune, said of the sensitivity training.
He also told the newspaper that he didn't pay any of the fine levied against him by Selig. Rocker was fined $20,000 for his comments, but that was reduced to $500 after appeal.
"I never paid a cent, a lot of players never pay a cent," Rocker told the newspaper. "It's just a front to look good and the way Selig cowers to pressure."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2499926
 
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The details of White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen's mandated sensitivity training -- including possible bilingual instruction -- are being prepared by the team's employee assistance department and are expected early this week.
General manager Ken Williams, meanwhile, already has begun his counseling process with Guillen, repeating his concerns about Guillen going down a slippery slope by not understanding the consequences of derogatory comments.
"No one expects him to be 'Ozzie' more than me,'' Williams said Sunday. "When I hired him, I knew there would be times I'd have to become more supportive. In a lot of ways, I feel I've let him down in that area.
"If I'm not going to be the one who articulates to him where this road can lead him -- how the same people who laughed with him and praised him for his candor can turn on him -- if I don't express the magnitude of that to him, who will? And who will he trust enough to hear the message?
"If I don't let him hear how the story could evolve, what kind of friend am I and how can I look at his family and look him in the eye to not warn him about the pitfalls? If it takes me going to sensitivity training with him, so be it.''
Williams, who played with Guillen on the Sox from 1986 to '88, called his manager "a work in progress, as I am and the team is.''
"The sad thing for me is these hits he's taking are coming in the midst of a nine-game winning streak, and I haven't been asked one question about this team,'' Williams said. "These [players] are the story. They're playing outstanding baseball, and the attention should be on them.''
Williams repeated that he doesn't intend to change Guillen.
"You are who you are,'' he said. "But you can modify and check your behavior.
"He's a little stung -- and I'm stung for him -- because I see people approach him with leading questions, baiting questions. But I see him coming out every day [to meet with the media], and it's tough. I don't think I could do that. By the same token, there's a code of conduct.''
Williams added that the events of last week troubled him for another reason: sending a wrong message to fans of the team.
"There's a way we want to do this,'' he said of building the Sox' future and its following. "We want to win, but we want to win the right way. "If there's a young White Sox fan in Naperville or Oak Lawn or Northbrook, we want them to understand their behavior shouldn't lean one way. That's part of our responsibility. If we don't, there will be something missing.''

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