"Are you saying that the University has to either provide salaries to its athletes, or else provide unlimited (insofar as possible) cheap seating to all its students?"
StadiumDorm;765311; said:
Never said that at all. The university can have its cake and eat it too. There has always been a price for student admission that was reduced from general admission - and I believe that is as it should be. I don't think the proportion of allotment needs to change. Although I acknowlege the contractual realities of the agreements with PSL holders, it's the seating arrangments that need to change.
I know you never said that directly. I was asking if that was what you were implying, because I wasn't seeing the connection between lack of salaries for student-athletes, and seating arrangements for student-non-athletes.
StadiumDorm;765311; said:
I'm confused. Are you saying that it's a "regrettable" reality?
Or that it really is preferrable to have students, who obviously can't afford PSLs, sitting on polar sides of the arena?
Neither. When I said it's not a moral argument, I didn't mean it's an immoral argument, I meant it's an amoral argument. Morals don't apply. Just as I don't consider it regrettable or preferable that people generally buy things they can afford, and don't buy things they can't. Or that lions eat wildebeasts in the Serengeti. It's just the way it is.
StadiumDorm;765311; said:
Well, when the game is supposed to be about students (specifically the ones on the floor), I would think that student fans would present a better atmosphere for the university - and a better showing of "school pride." (note I never said that it provided a better chance to win)
I was never aware that the game was supposed to be about students. Any more than when I go to a movie, I'm aware that it's supposed to be about actors. Or that if there are any members of the actors guild present, that they should get the seats in the middle of the theater. For the betterment of the movie-going atmosphere.
And yes, I realize the difference between movie atmosphere and sporting event atmosphere, and yes, I was being sarcastic with the last bit. But I don't view the game as being about students, per se. Rather, I think it's about a competition between two Universities, and everyone who follows them. The atmosphere will develop over time with continued success, rather than with altered seating arrangements, in my opinion, because it is winning programs which build rabid fan bases, moreso than vice versa (yes, I did note that you said atmosphere does not produce wins, so that last part was a bit of a non sequitur).
StadiumDorm;765311; said:
As it is, I'm supposed to be proud of the 55-year man sitting in row 4, center court, and who appears to be allergic to noise or standing? Where is the school pride in that?
No, you're not. And I don't understand how you got the idea that I thought you were from my comment that many of the donors to Schott construction probably donated their money, in part, out of a sense of school pride.
Sorry bud, Utopia doesn't exist.
