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Possible booster violation in OSU Women's basketball, current team not at risk

Discussion in 'Buckeye Basketball' started by Steve19, Feb 11, 2005.

  1. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/basketball/ncaa/wires/02/11/2060.ap.bkw.ohio.state.investigation.1st.ld.writethru.0329/index.html

    OSU has reported that two members of the women's team received a dental invoice showing nothing was due, assuming that their insurance had paid the bill. The NCAA has cleared the players but OSU is investigating that there could have been three or four players who saw this orthodontist in the past.

    The ladies on the current team reported this immediately and have done no wrong.

    I must admit that I am somewhat amazed at the level of this reporting to the NCAA. Doctors routinely charge different prices based on the affordability to the patient, perceived social relationships (family, friends) and other issues that in the doctor's opinion influence a different price. For instance, charging a set of rates that is the level of medical insurance reimbursement for some patients but charging a higher price to others. I also can never understand my doctor's bill. Sometimes they issue after receiving medical insurance, sometimes before. It all is very confusing and I would not be surprised if the students of previous years were not confused if they received free treatment, as well.
     
  2. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    Wow. I don't know what to say...
    This is a new low for the NCAA.
     
  3. LightningRod

    LightningRod Senior

    This is a new low for boosters.
     
  4. butahsan

    butahsan Newbie

    I do believe that charging a different set of rates for different people is in fact illegal. I do know for a fact that this is illegal for physical therapists to charge different rates as explained above in Ohio. The facility or physician will charge a specific amount to an insurance company, but the insurance company has a contract to only pay a specific per procedure or treatment.
     
  5. Bucktastic

    Bucktastic Troy Smith for HEISMAN

    Im sure ESPiN is already is investigating, and getting an Outside the Lines special ready....
     
  6. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I don't live in Ohio and am surprised by this. So, if I am a physical therapist and I see my best friend's kid, it's illegal for me to not charge him or to just charge him for say the cost of the materials I have used? If so, what an incredibly strange law!

    Yep, they really got us now! The great dental scandal. When did these players smile, how long did they smile and did Andy Geiger see it. I can't wait until the full length movie, they never pull punches in those!
     
  7. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    The sad thing is the delusional perception of everyone outside of tOSU...

    When you start self-reporting things like this and making public announcements regarding such a report, you are being overly-cautious and thorough. However, thanks to MoC, this will be viewed by the rest of the country as yet another instance of the indiscretions of a renegade athletic factory.

    Pathetic
     
  8. BuckeyeInTheBoro

    BuckeyeInTheBoro This space left intentionally blank

    Sorry guys... I'm afraid this is not only true.. it affects the current team as well.

    Here is a picture of Caity Matter today:
    [​IMG]

    Here is a picture of a young recruit named Caity Matter 8 years ago:
    [​IMG]


    We're in trouble guys... big, big trouble! Trouble with a capital T and that stands for Teeth!
     
  9. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Unless there is some Ohio Revised Code section I am absolutely unfamilair with, there is no reason a Doctor, Dentist or anyone else can't determine the price of his or her efforts per patient. There is nothing illegal about setting your own fee.

    I may charge one guy 500 bucks for a contract, that doesn't mean the next contract I do will be worth that. And I may want to charge less, on the chance that that'll get me more referrals. Nothing illegal about it.
     
  10. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    This one has come out of left field so to speak. I am all for being proactive with our athletic programs, but I think tOSU administration is being to proactive. Like Grad said, it will be viewed by the national media as another black mark.

    It is pathetic.
     
  11. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Boro - you are bad. :)
     
  12. BuckeyeInTheBoro

    BuckeyeInTheBoro This space left intentionally blank

    Just lazy... going for the easy laughs.
     
  13. heres the story

    and from the dispatch
    http://www.dispatch.com/bball/women/womensbball.php?story=dispatch/2005/02/11/20050211-F2-06.html&chck=t
    I know the football team has a team dentist (zwick) why would they not have a team dentist??
     
  14. butahsan

    butahsan Newbie

    Like I said, I am not sure if this applies to physicians, but I am positive that it applies to physical therapists. It is illegal in a situation for instance, a physical therapist performs a specific service to patient A and bills that patient for $50, and then performs the exact same treatment to patient B, but charges them $200 dollars. A big part of this law does deal with insurance companies. Many patients have deductibles that they must meet before the insurance company starts paying for services. If someone's insurance company requires that the patient pay a $200 deductible, and I charge $200 for my initial treatment to patient B, the insurance company will have to pay for the subsequent visits. Now if I only charge $50 per visit for my services to patient A, then the patient will have to recieve 4 treatments before the insurance company starts paying for treatments. That is why I must charge the same amount to all patients for each specific type of treatment.

    There are some exceptions to this rule when it comes to low income individuals and pro bono work.
     
  15. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I don't think anyone is suggesting the Dentist did anything illegal. An auto dealer is free to give away cars and a furniture dealer can pass out free furniture.

    You just can't accept it as a benefit if you are a student athlete and that is the reason you were offered the benefit.

    That said, this doesn't sound all that troubling.
     

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