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Muck;1401634; said:
Unless Bill Gates is holding a gun to your head forcing you to use IE then you have other more attractive options.
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Why do you say that, Muck? I've tried lots of alternatives, including Safari, Opera, and Firefox; all these are (for my purposes) far inferior to IE7 for a variety of reasons. I agree IE8 is unstable and buggy, but I really see little to recommend other browsers over IE7.
 
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MaxBuck;1556338; said:
Why do you say that, Muck? I've tried lots of alternatives, including Safari, Opera, and Firefox; all these are (for my purposes) far inferior to IE7 for a variety of reasons. I agree IE8 is unstable and buggy, but I really see little to recommend other browsers over IE7.
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Rendering speed, increased functionality via plugins, portability, Acid 2 & 3 standards compatibility.

IE 7 & 8 have come a long way from 6 & prior versions. They've finally reached the point where they are competitive with the other players in many areas. If you're happy with 7, it's a solid enough product these days that I don't see any real need for you to change...but it's still not the standard bearer in many areas.
 
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Muck;1556515; said:
Rendering speed, increased functionality via plugins, portability, Acid 2 & 3 standards compatibility.

IE 7 & 8 have come a long way from 6 & prior versions. They've finally reached the point where they are competitive with the other players in many areas. If you're happy with 7, it's a solid enough product these days that I don't see any real need for you to change...but it's still not the standard bearer in many areas.
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Thanks, Muck, for the specifics! You seem to be more of a developer/power user than I, and I can understand why those aspects of performance could be important.

Again, I'm not so much concerned about my software being the "standard bearer," as I am that it suits my particular use pattern. Just wish I could figure out why IE8 has proven so doggone buggy - I've tried to load it onto two different machines, with fiery crashes on both. Too bad, because some of the new features look like they could be useful.

I will say this - IE seems to be much less popular among IT professionals than it is among "casual users." I fall into the casual user category, definitely.
 
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Microsoft's idea of innovation is copying apple, google, mozilla, etc. Fortunately, they finally seem to be forced into action and improvement on a number of fronts, whether it is competing browsers, cloud computing, or gaming and handheld multimedia devices.

An interesting thing I found when googling for a formal comparison was that safari was the fastest browser in one set of tests. It was slow starting up, but fastest after that. Ie came in last in all speed tests by this group.
 
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jwinslow;1556545; said:
Microsoft's idea of innovation is copying apple, google, mozilla, etc. Fortunately, they finally seem to be forced into action and improvement on a number of fronts, whether it is competing browsers, cloud computing, or gaming and handheld multimedia devices.

An interesting thing I found when googling for a formal comparison was that safari was the fastest browser in one set of tests. It was slow starting up, but fastest after that. Ie came in last in all speed tests by this group.
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We get it, Josh; you don't like Microsoft.
 
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MaxBuck;1556604; said:
We get it, Josh; you don't like Microsoft.
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I don't like groups that stifle innovation unless someone is smoking them... And then they usually just copy them rather than raising the bar further.

I've owned PCs and xboxes for a decade for practicality. Microsoft has had some neat prototype stuff like their multitouch table, but too much of their best stuff never makes it, or not until others have it too.
 
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jwinslow;1556545; said:
Microsoft's idea of innovation is copying apple, google, mozilla, etc. Fortunately, they finally seem to be forced into action and improvement on a number of fronts, whether it is competing browsers, cloud computing, or gaming and handheld multimedia devices.
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There isn't a company out there that doesn't rip off good ideas from the competition.

Apple, Google & mozilla (mob rather than company in this case) are certainly not exceptions.

Every industry is full of incestous relationships...that's how good ideas propogate. It's a feature not a bug.

Microsoft is THE reason that we all have machines that are compatible with one another at every level.
 
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I think that Muck and Josh have a point:

Microsoft accelerated operating system compatibility. They've lost much of the server market to open platforms like Apache but they certainly made it possible for idiots like me to load software and run it, without having to chase drivers like Linux.

That said, Microsoft are doing everything in their power to frustrate open document portability.

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As for theft, Microsoft has quite a reputation. Surely, I have noticed that Windows copies features from OpenOffice frequently.
 
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