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QB- Collier
RB- Unless someone like Scott or Mixon wants in or someone blows them away at Camp, I think they'll pass
WR- Johnson, McLaurin
TE- Roberts (H), Gesicki
OL- M. Jones, Trout, J. Jones, Eluemunor, Prince (in a good spot with Mavety & Knox as well. Will be interesting to see how things go after Eluemunor announces tomorrow)
DE- Thompson, Holmes
DT- Holley & Elam seem like the most likely candidates, but not sure either are leaning towards OSU. A wait & see approach with numbers?
LB- Berger, Hubbard, Booker, McMillan
DB- Webb, Wilson, Smith
ATH- Campbell, Lattimore, Samuel
K- Nuernberger
That would put us at 23, with the names listed (no RB or DT). As Buckeye86 said in the '14 recruiting thread....we haven't even made it through camp season yet. Long way to go & I'm sure this list will change in about 5 minutes.
QB- Collier
RB- Unless someone like Scott or Mixon wants in or someone blows them away at Camp, I think they'll pass
WR- Johnson, McLaurin
TE- Roberts (H), Gesicki
OL- M. Jones, Trout, J. Jones, Eluemunor, Prince (in a good spot with Mavety & Knox as well. Will be interesting to see how things go after Eluemunor announces tomorrow)
DE- Thompson, Holmes
DT- Holley & Elam seem like the most likely candidates, but not sure either are leaning towards OSU. A wait & see approach with numbers?
LB- Berger, Hubbard, Booker, McMillan
DB- Webb, Wilson, Smith
ATH- Campbell, Lattimore, Samuel
K- Nuernberger
That would put us at 23, with the names listed (no RB or DT). As Buckeye86 said in the '14 recruiting thread....we haven't even made it through camp season yet. Long way to go & I'm sure this list will change in about 5 minutes.
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Buckeye Nut
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Not a surprise. No reason to believe he won't be in this class.stowfan;2351098; said:
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MD Buckeye;2351089; said:
I don't see us taking two TEs but perhaps with Roberts skillset we take both? I've had the feeling that Giesicki's offer is contingent on what Allen does. But I can't just criticize your list without giving my own guess-timate
QB: Collier
RB: Nobody except Mixon or Scott (or of that caliber)...but I don't see either coming here at this point and Campbell could always end up here
WR: McLaurin, L. Johnson,
Samuel
ATH: Campbell, Lattimore
TE: Roberts
OL: Trout, M. Jones, J. Jones, Prince, Eluemunor, Knox
DE: Thompson, Holmes
DT: Holley
LB: Berger, Hubbard, Booker, McMillan
DB: Webber, Smith
K: Nuernberger
- Of course we will have some type of big surprise I think...my best guess is JuJu Smith, although I think he is an ND lean at this point. Also am intrigued by Tony Brown, Soloman Thomas, and Jamal Adams from Texas. I also think we are a serious contender for Luatua but I think his spot will be gone by the time he will pick.
I'm also thinking we get someone to flip...really hoping that would be Watson but regardless, I think we hold a spot or two open for this very reason. There are always big time guys shopping around when there are shakeups in college football and that is chum in the water for Urbs.
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GeorgiaBuck2;2351097; said:
You're assuming the staff sees Gesicki and Roberts both as TEs. Gesicki could be the outside WR they have been looking for while Roberts could fill the H-back/hybrid TE role.
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wadc45;2351704; said:
Or even the other way around, I could see Roberts as an outside WR like the ones we've been currently recruiting, and gesicki as a more true TE that blocks first but can still catch in traffic and move the chains
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pnuts34;2351830; said:
True as well...haven't seen enough in person to say and I agree I could have it backwards.
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
QB: Stephen Collier
I think the staff continues to pursue DeShaun Watson to the bitter end just in case a Dontre Wilson situation materializes, otherwise they are done here.
RB: none
I really don't think the staff is going to add anyone here unless there happens to be room for someone at the end of the class- and I think any extra spots will be prioritized elsewhere (OL, DB).
Derrell Scott seems like the most likely elite caliber guy with Jonathan Hilliman as the alternative.
The staff really seems to want Campbell at WR (based on camp workouts) and with the number of elite '15 RBs already receiving attention (Jacques Patrick, Mike Weber, Damian Harris, Chris Warren, LJ Scott) I wouldn't be surprised if the staff is selling the '15 kids on the fact that they probably aren't going to take a true RB this year.
My ideal scenario would be to focus elsewhere this year and try to bring in two of the '15 guys.
H-Back: Noah Brown
After watching his highlights, its abundantly clear that Brown can make plays running the ball and is a great receiver; he is equally dangerous out of the backfield or split out wide- if that doesn't scream H-Back to you I don't know what would.
I think he is the #1 guy on the board here and getting him on campus this week has me highly optimistic that he will be a part of the class.
TE: ?
I think they would like to take someone, but I am not sure if there will be room or not. I thought Mike Gesicki was going to pull the trigger quickly after he received his camp offer but it looks like the staff might be slow playing.
Tyler Luatua is an interesting option that becomes slightly less of a huge longshot if he actually makes it on his official visit to Columbus that he currently has scheduled.
Having Sam Hubbard in the class is great because I think moving him to TE is a realistic option that makes it a lot easier to take your time and see what happens at other positions.
Pivot: Curtis Samuel
Like Noah Brown, I think Samuel is one of the absolute top priorities for the staff on offense. If his planned end of the month visit to Columbus happens to be for FNL that would be huge and would put him over the top as a very likely member of the class in my opinion.
WR: Lonnie Johnson, Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin
I think the staff is basically done unless they manage to make a run on an elite player at the end of the cycle- pending open spots, of course.
I like Johnson as a tall perimeter guy that can stretch the field. I think the staff envisions Campbell in the slot while McLaurin can play on the perimeter or in the slot if needed.
That makes it a very well round class in my opinion, and with plenty of '15 options already identified (George Campbell, Davante Peete, CJ Sanders), there's no reason to push too hard for another player in '14.
Plus, if Samuel and Brown do join, they are both quasi-WRs as well and would make this an even more stacked position.
OL: Marcelys Jones, Kyle Trout, Jamarco Jones, Demetrius Knox, Jermaine Eluemunor/Chad Mavety, Damian Prince/Alex Bookser
This is probably the position with the most questions surrounding it- when it comes to options, at least.
I think it is extremely safe to say that at least two additional players will be added with the possibility of a third.
Knox is enjoying the recruiting process as much as any recruit I've seen, but I think he is a Buckeye at the end of the day- and it will be the very end of the recruiting cycle when he makes his final decision.
They are targeting the JUCOs and will likely land at least one between Jermaine Eluemunor and Chad Mavety which would take care of the second spot.
I would be surprised if the staff could/would say no to Damian Prince or Alex Bookser if they wanted on board as well which would be the third spot.
SSDE: Dylan Thompson
Thompson isn't highly rated but he has the competitive nature that Meyer looks for and plenty of room to develop.
Solomon Thomas is a somewhat realistic option but I don't think its a priority to add here unless things fall through at other positions.
Viper: Jalyn Holmes
The staff got their guy with Holmes and similarly to SSDE, I don't think they are really pursuing any additional players (although I am sure they are continuing to stay in touch with certain prospects just in case).
DT: Thomas Holley/Daniel Cage
The staff is obviously looking to land at least one true DT in this class. I think Thomas Holley is the #1 target right now and there is a decent chance that he will be a Buckeye.
There are several alternates and this is a prime spot for a late surprise, but my preference would be for Daniel Cage to get an offer and become a part of the class if Holley falls through.
LB: Sam Hubbard, Kyle Berger, Dante Booker, Raekwon McMillan
McMillan is the biggest fish in this class and has been since the very beginning. He is visiting for FNL which is sign #45 that Ohio State is in great shape.
Hubbard, Berger and Booker already make this a good haul and McMillan will put it in the discussion for all-time good.
CB: Damon Webb, Marshon Lattimore
S: Erick Smith, ?
Webb and Lattimore will be an excellent pair of corners with lock down potential.
Erick Smith is an elite safety prospect and I think the staff will try to land an additional elite player (Quincy Wilson, Jamal Adams) if they can.
Webb, Lattimore and Smith getting together for FNL should further solidify this as the core DB group to add to if possible despite the Glenville duo remaining uncommitted.
K: Sean Nuernberger
I think an additional DB and a TE are the primary "flex" spots in the class that will depend largely on spaces available.
So that's a projected class of 23 or 25 with the TE and extra DB.
While there is always the possibility of a few surprises, the framework of the class seems clear at this point and we are in great shape at almost every targeted position.
Needless to say, I would be EXTREMELY happy to see this projected class materialize.
I think the staff continues to pursue DeShaun Watson to the bitter end just in case a Dontre Wilson situation materializes, otherwise they are done here.
RB: none
I really don't think the staff is going to add anyone here unless there happens to be room for someone at the end of the class- and I think any extra spots will be prioritized elsewhere (OL, DB).
Derrell Scott seems like the most likely elite caliber guy with Jonathan Hilliman as the alternative.
The staff really seems to want Campbell at WR (based on camp workouts) and with the number of elite '15 RBs already receiving attention (Jacques Patrick, Mike Weber, Damian Harris, Chris Warren, LJ Scott) I wouldn't be surprised if the staff is selling the '15 kids on the fact that they probably aren't going to take a true RB this year.
My ideal scenario would be to focus elsewhere this year and try to bring in two of the '15 guys.
H-Back: Noah Brown
After watching his highlights, its abundantly clear that Brown can make plays running the ball and is a great receiver; he is equally dangerous out of the backfield or split out wide- if that doesn't scream H-Back to you I don't know what would.
I think he is the #1 guy on the board here and getting him on campus this week has me highly optimistic that he will be a part of the class.
TE: ?
I think they would like to take someone, but I am not sure if there will be room or not. I thought Mike Gesicki was going to pull the trigger quickly after he received his camp offer but it looks like the staff might be slow playing.
Tyler Luatua is an interesting option that becomes slightly less of a huge longshot if he actually makes it on his official visit to Columbus that he currently has scheduled.
Having Sam Hubbard in the class is great because I think moving him to TE is a realistic option that makes it a lot easier to take your time and see what happens at other positions.
Pivot: Curtis Samuel
Like Noah Brown, I think Samuel is one of the absolute top priorities for the staff on offense. If his planned end of the month visit to Columbus happens to be for FNL that would be huge and would put him over the top as a very likely member of the class in my opinion.
WR: Lonnie Johnson, Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin
I think the staff is basically done unless they manage to make a run on an elite player at the end of the cycle- pending open spots, of course.
I like Johnson as a tall perimeter guy that can stretch the field. I think the staff envisions Campbell in the slot while McLaurin can play on the perimeter or in the slot if needed.
That makes it a very well round class in my opinion, and with plenty of '15 options already identified (George Campbell, Davante Peete, CJ Sanders), there's no reason to push too hard for another player in '14.
Plus, if Samuel and Brown do join, they are both quasi-WRs as well and would make this an even more stacked position.
OL: Marcelys Jones, Kyle Trout, Jamarco Jones, Demetrius Knox, Jermaine Eluemunor/Chad Mavety, Damian Prince/Alex Bookser
This is probably the position with the most questions surrounding it- when it comes to options, at least.
I think it is extremely safe to say that at least two additional players will be added with the possibility of a third.
Knox is enjoying the recruiting process as much as any recruit I've seen, but I think he is a Buckeye at the end of the day- and it will be the very end of the recruiting cycle when he makes his final decision.
They are targeting the JUCOs and will likely land at least one between Jermaine Eluemunor and Chad Mavety which would take care of the second spot.
I would be surprised if the staff could/would say no to Damian Prince or Alex Bookser if they wanted on board as well which would be the third spot.
SSDE: Dylan Thompson
Thompson isn't highly rated but he has the competitive nature that Meyer looks for and plenty of room to develop.
Solomon Thomas is a somewhat realistic option but I don't think its a priority to add here unless things fall through at other positions.
Viper: Jalyn Holmes
The staff got their guy with Holmes and similarly to SSDE, I don't think they are really pursuing any additional players (although I am sure they are continuing to stay in touch with certain prospects just in case).
DT: Thomas Holley/Daniel Cage
The staff is obviously looking to land at least one true DT in this class. I think Thomas Holley is the #1 target right now and there is a decent chance that he will be a Buckeye.
There are several alternates and this is a prime spot for a late surprise, but my preference would be for Daniel Cage to get an offer and become a part of the class if Holley falls through.
LB: Sam Hubbard, Kyle Berger, Dante Booker, Raekwon McMillan
McMillan is the biggest fish in this class and has been since the very beginning. He is visiting for FNL which is sign #45 that Ohio State is in great shape.
Hubbard, Berger and Booker already make this a good haul and McMillan will put it in the discussion for all-time good.
CB: Damon Webb, Marshon Lattimore
S: Erick Smith, ?
Webb and Lattimore will be an excellent pair of corners with lock down potential.
Erick Smith is an elite safety prospect and I think the staff will try to land an additional elite player (Quincy Wilson, Jamal Adams) if they can.
Webb, Lattimore and Smith getting together for FNL should further solidify this as the core DB group to add to if possible despite the Glenville duo remaining uncommitted.
K: Sean Nuernberger
I think an additional DB and a TE are the primary "flex" spots in the class that will depend largely on spaces available.
So that's a projected class of 23 or 25 with the TE and extra DB.
While there is always the possibility of a few surprises, the framework of the class seems clear at this point and we are in great shape at almost every targeted position.
Needless to say, I would be EXTREMELY happy to see this projected class materialize.
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
9 more spots? Seems like that will be hard unless like last year we unfortunately lose a current verbal. I'm working with a max of 8 and agree with many picks but not sure about 6 O Lineman and I'm not convinced yet that the staff wants Noah that bad especially if they land Gesicki. I know they aren't identical players but similar enough that I don't see both as being MUST gets which brings me to my biggest difference of opinion.
To say that Solomon Thomas isn't a position of need is not how I view it at all. A great D Line will win you more championships than any other position group except maybe QB and even that is debatable. I agree on the importance of Holley or another DT I'm just saying adding him with another D Lineman like ST is way better than landing Gesicki and Brown if we are talking about filling the last spot. You can never ever ever have too many elite D Lineman. You just take all you can get. Almost the same with O Lineman.
In fact I'd take a 6th O Lineman if they are a stud over Noah. It's not a knock on him it's just with a tight class I would allocate elsewhere if possible. Strike out on Gesicki or elite lineman on either side and then you land him last minute.
To say that Solomon Thomas isn't a position of need is not how I view it at all. A great D Line will win you more championships than any other position group except maybe QB and even that is debatable. I agree on the importance of Holley or another DT I'm just saying adding him with another D Lineman like ST is way better than landing Gesicki and Brown if we are talking about filling the last spot. You can never ever ever have too many elite D Lineman. You just take all you can get. Almost the same with O Lineman.
In fact I'd take a 6th O Lineman if they are a stud over Noah. It's not a knock on him it's just with a tight class I would allocate elsewhere if possible. Strike out on Gesicki or elite lineman on either side and then you land him last minute.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
I just don't see 6 O Linemen. I think we'll have to stop at 5. The only way I can see 6 is if we get two JUCOs, but even that will cause us to miss somewhere. I would rather see Noah and Curtis and in the class to polish off the offense. Perhaps a TE, but I feel like getting some more speed/slot/pivot is more of a priority. With Heuerman possibly having two more years, Vannett with at least 2 more years and Baugh coming in, TE need is much like RB. I agree with ShowMe, with I would rather see us get more on the defensive side of the ball. I would like to see us pick up Marshon, Kwon, Smith and Holley (or other DT and Holley is a toss up right now). Then see how the season goes and pick up the best available defensive player left if any spots are open.
So, 4 more guys on the offensive side, 4 more on the defensive side to seal away the class and have all of our bases covered. Then I would guess we'll see a spot come available to attrition before February and with that take the best guy available with a preference to defense.
So, 4 more guys on the offensive side, 4 more on the defensive side to seal away the class and have all of our bases covered. Then I would guess we'll see a spot come available to attrition before February and with that take the best guy available with a preference to defense.
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I really think we have addressed our needs for adding speed on offense looking at Clark, Marshall, Wilson, Elliott, C. Smith, McLaurin, L. Johnson, then likely Lattimore and Samuel. The TE depth is more than fine with both Heureman and Vannett having plenty of eligibility left, Thomas looking improved, and Baugh in town. With Roberts to UCLA, Giesecki is the only guy I see that we might take here other than Luatua. On the other side of the ball, we seriously loaded up on DB last year (5 at least, maybe 6 depending on Lee/Worley) and have an elite guy in Webb...we also have loaded up at LB between '13 and '14, so I think McMillan rounds us out at LB.
There will always be more OL on the field than any position and they are more prone to injury, so depth is crucial. Add in the fact that we did not do well on with OL in '13 (only Gardner and Lisle, maybe Munger), I think 6 is quite possible if it's the right guys. I see one of Eluemenor/Mavety coming aboard, then if Prince hops on and Knox wants in, I do not see us saying no. Imo, Knox is the best interior OL in the country and could contribute immediately at guard or center for us. DL is also a position that is tough to pass on elite guys and is the only position imo that might justify keeping Knox out in the scenario above (if it is a guy we cannot pass on). I think many positions are looking somewhat predictable (Lattimore, Smith, McMillan, Samuel, etc. are all but in) but OL and perhaps DT will be the most interesting to see develop.
There will always be more OL on the field than any position and they are more prone to injury, so depth is crucial. Add in the fact that we did not do well on with OL in '13 (only Gardner and Lisle, maybe Munger), I think 6 is quite possible if it's the right guys. I see one of Eluemenor/Mavety coming aboard, then if Prince hops on and Knox wants in, I do not see us saying no. Imo, Knox is the best interior OL in the country and could contribute immediately at guard or center for us. DL is also a position that is tough to pass on elite guys and is the only position imo that might justify keeping Knox out in the scenario above (if it is a guy we cannot pass on). I think many positions are looking somewhat predictable (Lattimore, Smith, McMillan, Samuel, etc. are all but in) but OL and perhaps DT will be the most interesting to see develop.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
I feel we will take more players along both lines 2 OL and 1-2 more Defensive lineman before we close out our recruiting year.
I think other than Holmes we are going to want at least 1 more true edge rusher. I wouldn't be surprised to see us get Thomas or perhaps even get in late on someone before all is said and done. It'll be interesting to watch how Jamal Marcus/Lewis do in the rush end spot outside of Spence this year because if they don't do all that well I think Urban and Co will for sure look for another end to go along with a true DT like Holly.
I think other than Holmes we are going to want at least 1 more true edge rusher. I wouldn't be surprised to see us get Thomas or perhaps even get in late on someone before all is said and done. It'll be interesting to watch how Jamal Marcus/Lewis do in the rush end spot outside of Spence this year because if they don't do all that well I think Urban and Co will for sure look for another end to go along with a true DT like Holly.
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