sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
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So, to be clear, he's accounted for 50% of Urban's losses at tOSU?
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So, to be clear, he's accounted for 50% of Urban's losses at tOSU?
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
MAXWELL AWARD NAMES J.T. BARRETT NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Thursday, the Maxwell Award named the Ohio State quarterback the National Player of the Week. This is the second time he won the award.
Add it to the growing list of weekly honors amassed by the Texan over his career. From Ohio State:
- Maxwell Award Player of the Week – twice
- Davey O’Brien National Quarterback of the Week – once
- Big Ten Pffensive Player of the Week – six times
- Big Ten Freshman of the Week – seven times
- Athlon’s national Player of the Week – twice
- Athlon’s Freshman of the Week – twice
- Earl Campbell Tyler Rose National Player of the Week – twice
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MAXWELL AWARD NAMES J.T. BARRETT NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Thursday, the Maxwell Award named the Ohio State quarterback the National Player of the Week. This is the second time he won the award.
Add it to the growing list of weekly honors amassed by the Texan over his career. From Ohio State:
Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...-names-jt-barrett-national-player-of-the-week
- Maxwell Award Player of the Week – twice
- Davey O’Brien National Quarterback of the Week – once
- Big Ten Pffensive Player of the Week – six times
- Big Ten Freshman of the Week – seven times
- Athlon’s national Player of the Week – twice
- Athlon’s Freshman of the Week – twice
- Earl Campbell Tyler Rose National Player of the Week – twice
This post comprises a heck of a punctuation mark on the "What's wrong with JT" conversation. Not that he can't play better than he has. This just provides an outsider's perspective, which isn't a bad thing sometimes.
They've had better arms behind center... recently
They've had better athletes behind center... recently
For a numbers dork like me it's frustrating, but it's the truth: The most important criterion for a quarterback is not quantifiable. The older JT (first name: Jim) called it toughness. Urban calls it competitiveness. I won't be so bold as to offer my own opinion in their company, but as they use different words, I'll hazard a guess as to what they mean. It seems to me that they have both chosen a component of a larger, impossible-to-define quality and use the name of that component to signify the whole. It's a quality that all winners, especially all winning quarterbacks, have. Yes, toughness and competitiveness are part of it, but so are leadership, tenacity, confidence, and a dozen or more things that are all inextricable parts of it.
It is a mistake in my mind to try to separate these adjectives, as if they were independent of one another. In some people they might be, but in a winning quarterback they are each a facet of a gem that is best appreciated as a whole.
Precise use of language is part of my job. In doing this job for 25+ years I've found that precise language is best for objective, quantifiable features, functions and attributes. When something defies quantification and most especially when it is evaluated subjectively, attempts to quantify it objectively are time-consuming mistakes. Many system specifications spend most of their words on the unquantifiable. The best specs use the fewest words on such things. The less quantifiable, the more subjective, the more important it is to use imprecise, concise language.
This is why the best possible term for the attribute in question is the word that is most commonly used for it. The word: "IT"
Rex Kern had IT
Craig Krenzel had IT
Troy Smith had IT
JT Barrett has IT, arguably to a higher degree than any of the above.
JT will own the QB record book before he leaves. And yes, that will in some small way quantify the extent to which he has IT. But those of us who saw him play will tell people that what really made him great is not found in numbers.
Hopefully a fair few Heisman voters understand that as well.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
Urban's right as well when he stated we hit majority of our passes intermediately against UW. I think honestly thats what got us going in the 2nd half.
first half we went deep a handful of times and came up empty on all of them. Then we start the second half and we throw some ropes and move the chains and later I think you saw it landed up a few nice plays down the field (albeit not huge back breakers). I really thought JT played well, the passing game picked things up in the 2nd half, and it's a shame people like myself get frustrated during the game about not throwing for 75% completion and 400 yards.
He leads, he puts us in a position to win, and ultimately because of that we win a lot of ball games.
first half we went deep a handful of times and came up empty on all of them. Then we start the second half and we throw some ropes and move the chains and later I think you saw it landed up a few nice plays down the field (albeit not huge back breakers). I really thought JT played well, the passing game picked things up in the 2nd half, and it's a shame people like myself get frustrated during the game about not throwing for 75% completion and 400 yards.
He leads, he puts us in a position to win, and ultimately because of that we win a lot of ball games.
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I'll ask this: I've read on the internet (so it MUST be true) that JT has told people that he is leaving this year. So, I would ask him - where ya goin', dude? You have a good paying job lined up? Now, I love ya JT for everything you've done for the program. But if you think you're going to waltz into the NFL and play QB...well....the Delusion Train is leaving Gate 7.
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OhioState001
Tressel Loyalist
He doesn't have a strong arm but he can make some pretty passes. That throw to Wilson last week was perfect, as was the one to Clark this week. If Clark makes that catch (PI I know) and Samuel doesn't stop his route (Defensive holding I know), then JT's performance is another Heisman worthy one. Not sure how his game translates to the NFL although Hackenberg got drafted and made a team
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MARVYMARV14
Hall of Fame
I think JT can be a solid back up and a serviceable starter in the NFL, Not every QB has the strongest arm, but what JT does well you can not teach, I say he compares well to your Dalton and Dilfer types.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
Great leader average arm average accuracy average release time. Good runner. Maybe NFL back up but ..I don't think so. I always over rate tOSU players..the older I get the more realistic I get.
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I really don't think JT trusts his receivers to make the big play for him, except maybe Brown. Probably just not enough time together. In the past they could just throw the ball up and far as they could and guys would go and get it whatever it took. i don't see guys out there selling out right now. This is hopefully the reason he doesnt throw guys open, otherwise he just can't read a defense. I prefer it's the first because trust can be earned.
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JT should stay next year, set records that may never be broken at Ohio State, get his degree and THEN see if he can make it in the NFL.
But what do I know?
But what do I know?
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Powair7s
Heisman
He doesn't throw guys open because unless they are running a fly, they are not running or running out of bounds. What happened to our pass routes from earlier this year where guys were catching the ball at or near full speed and could make defenders miss? You give the defense a huge advantage if you don't catch a pass on the run.
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It really does feel like there are plays that we just don't run anymore for whatever reason. Maybe the WRs can't get them right in practice, maybe JT can't get the timing right, maybe the OL can't block long enough? It just has a feeling like we're working with a much limited playbook than the one from earlier in the year.
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