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Question about Heisman and Archie

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Ginn4Heisman, Dec 9, 2004.

  1. Ginn4Heisman

    Ginn4Heisman Newbie

    Does Archie get to vote on 2 ballots since he won the Heisman twice?
  2. BuckeyeSoldier

    BuckeyeSoldier 2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion

  3. Ginn4Heisman

    Ginn4Heisman Newbie

    cool, I was not sure about it. Thanks for the answer.
  4. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    You sure about that Soldier? I had no idea if so...I do know there are 52 former winner votes counted this year. Not sure how many past winners have passed on...
  5. ntd

    ntd Newbie

    Yeah, he is correct
  6. Ginn4Heisman

    Ginn4Heisman Newbie

    yeah I was not sure that's why I asked
  7. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    I never knew that...tried to find a list of surviving winners but I'll take your word for it.
  8. i think its gay they added the one fan vote
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I would guess that this is a result of when the Downtown Athletic Club was in financial dire straits a while back, and Suzuki of America offered a ton of money as a corporate sponsor if fans could participate in the form of one vote. In fact, the Heisman website states, "In 1999, the American Suzuki Motor Corporation, as a major sponsor, developed a special program to allow the public at large to become part of the balloting process by permitting one (1) fan vote eligible in the overall tabulation. This program continues in 2004, bringing the total number of voters for the 2004 Heisman race to 923." I doubt very seriously if that one fan vote will affect the outcome.
  10. Ginn4Heisman

    Ginn4Heisman Newbie

    Personally I think its cool that a fan can vote on the Heisman. I know I would love to vote and be part of the history of voting for a Heisman.

    I hope I can be the fan next year!

  11. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    Isn't it one "fan vote", not "one fan" vote? I'm pretty sure it's a vote determined by a poll at

    "As the presenting sponsor of the Heisman Trophy, American Suzuki Motor Corporation will be casting one official vote for the winner of the Heisman Trophy based on your votes."
  12. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    Archie Only Votes ONCE on Heisman

    Perhaps I am being cotrarian today.

    My take on the Heisman vote count is NO second vote for Archie.

    The Heisman site quotes thus:
    Here is a list of the 52 living prior Heisman trophy winners.
    Jason White<O:p></O:p>
    Carson Palmer <O:p></O:p>

    Eric Crouch<O:p></O:p>

    Chris Weinke<O:p></O:p>

    Ron Dayne<O:p></O:p>

    Ricky Williams<O:p></O:p>

    Charles Woodson<O:p></O:p>

    Danny Wuerffel<O:p></O:p>

    Eddie George<O:p></O:p>

    Rashaan Salaam<O:p></O:p>

    Charlie Ward<O:p></O:p>

    Gino Toretta<O:p></O:p>

    Desmond Howard<O:p></O:p>

    Ty Detmer<O:p></O:p>

    Andre Ware<O:p></O:p>

    Barry Sanders<O:p></O:p>

    Tim Brown<O:p></O:p>

    Vinny Testaverde<O:p></O:p>

    Bo Jackson<O:p></O:p>

    Doug Flutie<O:p></O:p>

    Mike Rozier<O:p></O:p>

    Herschel Walker<O:p></O:p>

    Marcus Allen<O:p></O:p>

    George Rogers<O:p></O:p>

    Charles White<O:p></O:p>

    Billy Simms<O:p></O:p>

    Earl Campbell<O:p></O:p>

    Tony Dorsett<O:p></O:p>

    Archie Griffin<O:p></O:p>

    John Cappelletti<O:p></O:p>

    Johnny Rodgers<O:p></O:p>

    Pat Sullivan<O:p></O:p>

    Jim Plunkett<O:p></O:p>

    Steve Owens<O:p></O:p>

    O.J. Simpson<O:p></O:p>

    Gary Beban<O:p></O:p>

    Steve Spurrier<O:p></O:p>

    Mike Garrett<O:p></O:p>

    John Huarte<O:p></O:p>

    Roger Staubach<O:p></O:p>

    Terry Baker<O:p></O:p>

    Joe Bellino<O:p></O:p>

    Billy Cannon<O:p></O:p>

    Pete Dawkins<O:p></O:p>

    John David Crow<O:p></O:p>

    Paul Hornung<O:p></O:p>

    Howard Cassady<O:p></O:p>

    Johnny Lattner<O:p></O:p>

    Dick Kazmaier<O:p></O:p>

    John Lujack<O:p></O:p>

    Glenn Davis<O:p></O:p>

    Felix “Doc” Blanchard

    Unless one of the old warriors has gone to meet his maker these 52 - with the 870 media "experts" plus Joe Six-Packs one collective vote constitutes the 923 total votes counted. If Archie got 2 bites at the cherry it'd be 924 votes total.

    Interestingly - no-one knows who the 870 "experts" are, though the advisory group includes some likely candidates.
  13. Ginn4Heisman

    Ginn4Heisman Newbie


    I see. I didnt even know they did that. But I'm kind of slow to begin

    Well that's still kind of cool. We all can hit that site up all the time next year and vote for Ginn
  14. DeVryBuck

    DeVryBuck Newbie

    I came to this same conclusion based on a particular formula that I use to help me make a decision as to whether something is true or not. Although my formula does not require ANY facts it does allow for me to change the resulting answer as many times as necessary to end up with an answer that duplicates, in the end, whatever turns out to be the right answer!
  15. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Sandgk, that's how I took it as well but I can see both arguments. When everyone was answering so matter-of-factly, I figured I was eating dumbass sandwiches again:roll2:

    We need some confirmation here...someone call 1460

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