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osugrad21

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Nice mention of Greg Powers in there...

Washington Post

A Football Scout Who Does His Prep Work

By Eli Saslow
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 4, 2007; Page E01


SAN ANTONIO -- Bob Lichtenfels paced behind the end zone in the Alamodome, a wad of fine-cut chewing tobacco tucked in his lower lip. Five hundred high school football players auditioned on the field in front of him, and Lichtenfels hoped to assess many of them during the next two hours. He pulled a six-page roster from his back pocket. "Time to go to work," he said.

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honestly i take nearly everyones stuff with a grain of salt. if these guys were such great talent evaluators wouldnt someone have already signed them to their college/nfl staff?

though ive never paid a cent for recruiting stuff, gp writes probably the best stuff of all the guys in the business.
 
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I agree they would be recruiting for college or the NFL, how can any man say how good a player is or going to be in 30 Min,, alot of people look good in shorts, but get them in game, Bob and Ohio High have a kid rated high on there board, that i know was not the top five best on his highschool team. and only had about 30 tackels all year....It's about who they like...not about football talent, most of the scouts have not seen a kid play, so how can they rate them, give me a break...:osu:
 
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rbc;740666; said:
I agree they would be recruiting for college or the NFL, how can any man say how good a player is or going to be in 30 Min,, alot of people look good in shorts, but get them in game, Bob and Ohio High have kid rated high on there board, that i know was not the top five best on his highschool team. and only had about 30 tackels all year....It's about who they like...not about football talent, most of the scouts have not seen a kid play, so how can they rate them, give me a break...:osu:

tOSU bases plenty of their evaluation on camp observations...that is in shorts also.

There are specific skills that are observed through drill work and one-on-ones...game performance can help a kid get noticed, but it is the upside that is recruited. In a nutshell, its not what a kid is now but more of what he can be in 2-3 years.

I understand your point, but it is also just as easy to get caught up in HS game performance when assessing prospects...there are plenty of HS studs at all levels that never crack a 2-deep at a top-tier school.
 
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You right to a degree, i rather get caught up in a HS game then a combine, you can go get any good to great track man and run a good 40 , VJ, BJ and a chance he will run a good ss, so would you say he has a good to great upside, plus Ohio State looks at a lot of your game films as well....When they bring you in for camps, they already now what they are looking for.:osu:
 
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rbc;740792; said:
You right to a degree, i rather get caught up in a HS game then a combine, you can go get any good to great track man and run a good 40 , VJ, BJ and a chance he will run a good ss, so would you say he has a good to great upside, plus Ohio State looks at a lot of your game films as well....When they bring you in for camps, they already now what they are looking for.:osu:

Absolutely, but there needs to be a balance of the two...neither one will give you the full picture. The top-tier schools almost always want to see kids in person...even if it is only to eyeball a kid...before offering. Sometimes, that isn't possible, but when an offer flies out like that, its usually a longshot anyway.

Example: Tennessee invited one of my kids to camp last summer...they said to not even worry about bringing his cleats because they didn't need to see him in any drills. They saw him move on film and only wanted to eyeball the frame.

Good discussion.
 
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osugrad21;740800; said:
Example: Tennessee invited one of my kids to camp last summer...they said to not even worry about bringing his cleats because they didn't need to see him in any drills. They saw him move on film and only wanted to eyeball the frame.

That's because they had their own cleats that were longer than the standard ones, right? :biggrin:
 
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