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RugbyBuck

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Thought we should have a thread since it seems that BP'ers other than wadc and I may have a passing interest in the World Cup that matters. :biggrin:

France 2007 - Six weeks of rugby, 20 countries, 48 matches. Argentina beat France in the opening match:

Argentina stun France in opening match
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Ignacio Corleto scores the only try of the match for Argentina

PARIS, 7 September - Argentina caused a huge upset in the opening match of the IRB Rugby World Cup by beating France 17-12 at the Stade de France on Friday, handing the host nation their first ever defeat in the pool stages.

Felipe Contepomi missed a penalty at the death, giving France an opportunity to launch one last attack, but it came to nothing and referee Tony Spreadbury blew for fulltime, sparking wild celebrations among the Argentine players.

Argentina had lost in their two previous appearances in the world cup opening match, but their resolute defence early in the second half against an improved French outfit proved decisive as they repelled drive after drive before Christophe Dominici was penalised for holding on and the Pumas were able to clear their lines.

David Skrela missed a straightforward penalty for France, but made amends just before the hour mark with another to reduce the deficit to 17-12 before limping off to be replaced by Frederic Michalak.

France continued to look threatening in attack, but the ball went loose and the Pumas hacked it up field, full back Ignacio Corleto chasing and recovering the ball, but Felipe Contepomi couldn't take his low pass for what would have been a potentially match-winning try.

The Pumas defence continued to hold firm, but it could have been a different story had Michalak not skewed his first penalty attempt with nine minutes to go, a miss that, together with Skrela's, ultimately proved costly for Les Bleus.

Corleto had earlier scored the only try of the Pool D opener to give the Pumas a 17-9 half-time lead. A try for France had seemed on the cards when Damien Traille broke through the Pumas defence and fed Remy Martin, but the flanker's pass found Argentine wing Horacio Agulla. He found Manuel Contepomi, who released Corleto to run to the corner.

Felipe Contepomi's conversion hit the post, but Argentina led 14-3 after 27 minutes with the fly half having also kicked three penalties. It could have been worse for France with the Pumas missing three drop goal attempts, two by Juan Martin Hernandez and one by Felipe Contepomi.

France fly half Skrela kicked three penalties for France, his third being the final act of the first 40 minutes and cutting the deficit to eight points after a fourth penalty by Felipe Contepomi had given Argentina a lead their performance deserved.
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RugbyBuck;923251; said:
Did you not read the article, Baron? Your expatriate renegade nazi brethren just beat France in France. Doesn't that just warm the cockles of your jack-booted heart?

You know, I think Felipe Contepomi's dad was Hitler's pool man's pool man.
 
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rugbybuck

what channels can we cacth the matches on? Either TW or Dish.. I know some of the online sites that are carrying them, but rather watch them on my projector than monitor.

Who's your pick to win it this go around? New Zealeand? South Africa? Also, any sleepers to watch out for (damn Island nations)?
 
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Setanta North America is carrying them all. I'll be going to Fado in Atlanta to watch. My guess is that any bar that shows premier league soccer will carry the RWC.

The final four will be New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, and I would've said France. Now with Argentina beating them, it could be Argentina or Ireland coming out of that pool.

The US is probably going to come in fourth out of our five team pool. The top two from each pool advance.

My sleeper would be Samoa. Not to win, of course, but definitely to make some noise.

Finals match of NZ and South Africa. That's like tOSU/scUM traditionally compared to the rest of the Big Ten. Too close to call the winner right now. Actually, I'll have to check the brackets. I'm not sure if they would play in the finals or semi-finals.
 
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RugbyBuck;923278; said:
The final four will be New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, and I would've said France. Now with Argentina beating them, it could be Argentina or Ireland coming out of that pool.

The US is probably going to come in fourth out of our five team pool. The top two from each pool advance.

My sleeper would be Samoa. Not to win, of course, but definitely to make some noise.

Finals match of NZ and South Africa. That's like tOSU/scUM traditionally compared to the rest of the Big Ten. Too close to call the winner right now. Actually, I'll have to check the brackets. I'm not sure if they would play in the finals or semi-finals.
Yeah France looked very strong pre-cup, I would have said France could even beat NZ.. but seeing a NZ/SA final would be awesome. I've been wanting to fly out to NZ and see a tri-nation game between those two, I've heard the same thing you said about them being like tOSU v. scUM.

I had high hopes for the USA until I saw the Canada game :lol: the Eagles are making very good progress but it's not even funny how far away alot of these teams are from the New Zealeands of the world.
 
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It's true that there is an enormous gap between the top and second-tier teams. A big part of that is because of the impact of professional rugby that has actually made the stronger countries even better. Argentina just proved, though, that an amateur nation can beat one of the big boys. They are on the cusp and there will eventually be a Quad (rather than Tri)Nations series, including Argentina. I think professional rugby will also eventually help teams like the US, as well. We've got some guys (Hercus, for example) who play in some of the bigger leagues. We'll keep getting better, but there won't ever be a big enough American following for us to be as good as the Six Nations and Tri-Nations teams.
 
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Don't know about inviting the Argentinians into the Tri-Nations. SA, NZ and the Aussies share a common colonial heritage and lots of other things that make those relations special (i.e., financial links). There is a perception in the southern hemisphere also that games played in Argentina can be subject to a lot more homer ref calls.

I think the world could be surprised by a Springbok team that is peaking at just the right time (for a bloody change!)

Go Boks!
 
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Right on both points, Steve, but I think a Four-Nations tournament is eventually possible, if Argentina continues to improve. There is certainly some resistance or it would already exist as the idea has been tossed around for awhile. The IRB may step in at some point to imrpove its global footprint. Certainly, there would be cultural and geographic issues, but a Southern Hemisphere test series like that would make more sense than having Argentina play the US and Canada.
 
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Buckeye513;923262; said:
Is Setanta televising this in the U.S.?


Yes, Dish Network carries the channel on their top 100 tier (it's either channel 402 or 404, somewhere in there). I watched a little of the US/England match yesterday (during Buckeye commercials), and South Africa/Samoa is on now.
 
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