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GaTechBuckeye;1421719; said:
I believe those scores and schools listed are for public universities only so don't get too proud. The private schools (Vandy, Northwestern, USC, Stanford, etc.) are likely to move GA Tech down the list quite a ways.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
haven't read the whole thread so im not sure if this factoid has been noted yet or not. but 8 or the last 9 national championships have been won by coaches either from ohio or coached at tOSU. the lone exception being mack brown.
urban meyer - born in ohio assistant coach at tOSU
les miles - born in ohio
urban meyer - born in ohio assistant coach at tOSU
mack brown - n/a
pete caroll - assistant coach at tOSU
nick saban - assistant coach at tOSU
jim tressel - born in ohio head coach at tOSU
larry coker - assistant coach at tOSU
bob stoops - born in ohio
urban meyer - born in ohio assistant coach at tOSU
les miles - born in ohio
urban meyer - born in ohio assistant coach at tOSU
mack brown - n/a
pete caroll - assistant coach at tOSU
nick saban - assistant coach at tOSU
jim tressel - born in ohio head coach at tOSU
larry coker - assistant coach at tOSU
bob stoops - born in ohio
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SSS
Junior
Thought I'd archive this here. It originated in a SEC-b10 slapfight that broke out in the UGA-Mich thread on GBW.
Much has been made of the B10 traveling out of their region for bowl games, or how some SEC teams don't do so (or haven't in the past, like UGA before 08). I decided to take a look back at how the SEC has fared when it leaves the south. For the most part, I used this decade, except for Florida who didn't bother to leave the south this decade.
Alabama
1. LOST in 2002 to Oklahoma. Bama won 10 of its other 12 games.
Arkansas
2. LOST in 2008 to Texas.
3. LOST in 2005 to USC.
4. WON in 2003 vs Texas.
Auburn
5. LOST in 2008 to WVU.
6. LOST in 2002 to USC.
Florida goes decades without leaving the south (sometimes including bowls).
7. LOST in 1991 to SYR. Won every single other regular season game.
8. TIED in 1983 vs USC. UF won 9 other games, USC only won 4.
Georgia
9. WON in 2008 vs ASU. Only made the list because they don't play OOR games.
... I went back to the 70s and didn't find any out of region games.
LSU
10. WON in 2005 vs ASU in a close one.
11. WON in 2003 vs AZ. A very bad AZ.
12. LOST in 2002 vs VT.
Tenn
13. LOST in 2008 vs UCLA, who was even worse than them.
14. LOST in 2007 vs Cal, got blown out. The year before, back in SEC country, they blew out Cal.
15. LOST in 2005 vs ND.
16. WON in 2001 vs ND.
SEC scheduled games out of the south: 5-10-1
I'm not very interested in looking up statistics for the also rans like Miss, Miss St, SCar, Vandy & Kentucky.
I should note this is more of a general commentary than one related to OSU. LSU was simply better in 07, and OSU didn't really deserve to win with how they showed up in 06. This is more of a look at how the distance might affect the b10 & sec in postseason play.
Much has been made of the B10 traveling out of their region for bowl games, or how some SEC teams don't do so (or haven't in the past, like UGA before 08). I decided to take a look back at how the SEC has fared when it leaves the south. For the most part, I used this decade, except for Florida who didn't bother to leave the south this decade.
Alabama
1. LOST in 2002 to Oklahoma. Bama won 10 of its other 12 games.
Arkansas
2. LOST in 2008 to Texas.
3. LOST in 2005 to USC.
4. WON in 2003 vs Texas.
Auburn
5. LOST in 2008 to WVU.
6. LOST in 2002 to USC.
Florida goes decades without leaving the south (sometimes including bowls).
7. LOST in 1991 to SYR. Won every single other regular season game.
8. TIED in 1983 vs USC. UF won 9 other games, USC only won 4.
Georgia
9. WON in 2008 vs ASU. Only made the list because they don't play OOR games.
... I went back to the 70s and didn't find any out of region games.
LSU
10. WON in 2005 vs ASU in a close one.
11. WON in 2003 vs AZ. A very bad AZ.
12. LOST in 2002 vs VT.
Tenn
13. LOST in 2008 vs UCLA, who was even worse than them.
14. LOST in 2007 vs Cal, got blown out. The year before, back in SEC country, they blew out Cal.
15. LOST in 2005 vs ND.
16. WON in 2001 vs ND.
SEC scheduled games out of the south: 5-10-1
I'm not very interested in looking up statistics for the also rans like Miss, Miss St, SCar, Vandy & Kentucky.
I should note this is more of a general commentary than one related to OSU. LSU was simply better in 07, and OSU didn't really deserve to win with how they showed up in 06. This is more of a look at how the distance might affect the b10 & sec in postseason play.
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BuckeyeNation27;1492064; said:
I don't consider Arizona the South. That trip outside of Dixie didn't seem to bother them too much. :(
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Jaxbuck;1492166; said:
The French Junior team could have beaten the "Buckeye" "team" that "showed up" that night.
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DaddyBigBucks;1492205; said:
We definitly pulled a no show for the ages but give the devil his due, they beat the fuck out of us and it could have been worse.
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Jaxbuck;1492212; said:
The 2006 Gators were a worthy champion, no question; as were the 2008 Gators.
And if they show up this year, the 2009 Gators could be one of the best teams of all time. The ESPN slobberfest of November is already making me ill. I wonder if ESPN has enough sense to be too embarrassed to crown a team GOAT before the championship game (again).
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1) Florida had not left the south, including bowls, for a decade according to the announcers for that game.Jaxbuck;1492166; said:
2) The above list is about scheduled departures from the south. It's been nearly 2 decades since UF willingly did so.
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jwinslow;1492231; said:
Gotcha.
Ties into the playoff thread a little. One of the biggest pro's I see to some sort of NFL style playoff format is that teams wouldn't be able to 1) be built for only one kind of weather condition, 2) ensure they never have to leave it and most importantly, 3) ensure that they will get to play their most important games in that weather while ensuring at the same time their opponents will have to deal with the opposite of all three.
The overall record and unwilligness of the SEC to leave their friendly confines seems to give some merit to the theory.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
More evidence of SEC dominance:
Since 1998 (the first year of the BCS), the SEC has won an overwhelming 15 bowl games against the Big Ten. The Big Ten has won a measly 16 bowl games against the SEC.
(Note: I searched for the results of the Outback Bowl, the Capital One Bowl, and also the BCS bowls. If the Big Ten played the SEC in any other bowl game in that time, let me know because it will change the results.)
Capital One Bowl: Big Ten has an 8-4 edge, winning in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2010.
(Note: The Capital One Bowl was previously called the Citrus Bowl. According to BB73, the change happened after the 2002 Citrus Bowl. These results are all combining these as one bowl game, with a name change.)
Outback Bowl: SEC has a 7-5 edge, winning in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, and 2010.
BCS bowls: Big Ten won in 2000 (Michigan over Alabama), and lost in 2002 (LSU over Illinois), 2007 (Florida over Ohio State), and 2008 (LSU over Ohio State)
Music City Bowl: Big Ten has a 2-1 edge, winning in 2002 and 2004. The SEC won in 2003.
Edit - Thanks, BB73 for letting me know about the Music City Bowls in 2002, 2003, and 2004. Results have been updated to reflect these games.
Since 1998 (the first year of the BCS), the SEC has won an overwhelming 15 bowl games against the Big Ten. The Big Ten has won a measly 16 bowl games against the SEC.
(Note: I searched for the results of the Outback Bowl, the Capital One Bowl, and also the BCS bowls. If the Big Ten played the SEC in any other bowl game in that time, let me know because it will change the results.)
Capital One Bowl: Big Ten has an 8-4 edge, winning in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2010.
(Note: The Capital One Bowl was previously called the Citrus Bowl. According to BB73, the change happened after the 2002 Citrus Bowl. These results are all combining these as one bowl game, with a name change.)
Outback Bowl: SEC has a 7-5 edge, winning in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, and 2010.
BCS bowls: Big Ten won in 2000 (Michigan over Alabama), and lost in 2002 (LSU over Illinois), 2007 (Florida over Ohio State), and 2008 (LSU over Ohio State)
Music City Bowl: Big Ten has a 2-1 edge, winning in 2002 and 2004. The SEC won in 2003.
Edit - Thanks, BB73 for letting me know about the Music City Bowls in 2002, 2003, and 2004. Results have been updated to reflect these games.
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