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Taurean Charles looking for new school

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This is the kid from Year of The Bull.

Foley dismisses Charles from football team
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Linebacker Taurean Charles has been kicked off the UF football team.

Athletics Director Jeremy Foley made the decision after holding a 20-minute meeting with Charles Tuesday morning.

“Taurean Charles is no longer a member of our football program,” said Foley in a released statement. “We wish Taurean the best of luck in the future.”

UF’s office of Student Judicial Affairs had suspended Charles academically for the summer on March 16.

Charles, however, was prepared to brave the suspension and return to football in the fall provided that Foley would grant him reinstatement. On Tuesday, Foley eliminated such a possibility.

“He kept telling me that we have a president that has a low-level tolerance and a coach that’s not going to put up with everything,” Charles said. “And I told him that I understand that. I said, ‘If I didn’t think I could handle it I wouldn’t even be here in your office.’

“And he said, ‘What, do you want me to let you back on the team so [Coach] Urban [Meyer] will have to kick you off?’ He basically said that I was going to get in trouble and I kept telling him different things that I’ve accomplished and realized.”

Foley suspended Charles indefinitely last July after the Gainesville Police Department alleged that Charles threw a keg at UF student Dane Eagle. Charles pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of culpable negligence on Feb. 21. The linebacker planned on paying for classes at Santa Fe Community College this summer so he could return to the team in the fall.

“He basically didn’t want to hear anything I wanted to say,” said Charles of Foley.

Foley did not return calls to his office and cell phone Tuesday.

“He kept saying, ‘I don’t think you’ve realized what it means to be a Gator,’” Charles said. “And I kept telling him that I realize that. I’ve had seven or eight months to realize that.

“I asked him: ‘Is there anything that will make you realize or convince you that I’m not going to get in trouble again?’ He said, ‘No.’”

Foley did not consult people who were well-informed about the linebacker before making the final decision, Charles said.

“The only people he’s asked is [UF Associate Athletics Director for Academic Affairs] Keith Carodine, Carodine’s friend and [UF Student Judicial Affairs Director] Cyrus Williams,” Charles said. “I don’t deal with these people on a daily basis. You need to ask people like my tutor, like my advisers, like my teachers, like my teammates, my mentors - people that focus on me.”

Charles tried to convince Foley to reinstate him by citing how Eagle has never wanted him kicked off the football team.

“He kept trying to say that Dane Eagle was not the case,” Charles said. “I kept telling him, ‘Dane Eagle is the case. He’s the victim. For him to say I shouldn’t be kicked off, you should take that into consideration.’”

The decision to end Charles’ UF football career was solely Jeremy Foley’s, the University Athletic Association said. Meyer had no say in the matter.

Charles maintains that he met with Meyer before his legal matters had been resolved and that the new coach was willing to consider Charles’ situation.

“I have the head coach and defensive coordinator [Charlie Strong] in my favor,” said Charles, who played in 11 games, registering five tackles as a redshirt freshman.

“They wanted me here. But it was up to Jeremy Foley. He didn’t ask Coach Meyer’s opinion or Coach Strong’s opinion. It was just him.”

Charles also met with UF Dean of Students Eugene L. Zdziarski to discuss his academic suspension on Tuesday, but the linebacker has become adamant about pursuing his football and academic career elsewhere.

“If I have two or three years left to play football, I’m not going to sit here,” said Charles, who is considering Florida State, South Florida, Texas Southern and Georgia Southern as viable options. “I’m not going to stay here - for what? To watch my teammates perform when I know I have the ability to play on the next level and I still have athletic bone in my body?”
 
osugrad21 said:
Wonder how different the Foley perspective would be?

Not much I bet :roll2:
Probably too true -- though .......
Actually -- if you are right -- and events are pretty much as reported it puts Meyer in an odd position. I mean, if you were in Meyer's shoes wouldn't you be more than a little irked that Foley's throwing around his weight, having the UAA directly support Foley's supremacy as sole decision maker in cases directly affecting who is on roster and who is off-campus? Seems like Foley is publicly and directly under-cutting Meyer's authority as head coach. There were alternative approaches that would have included Meyer in the process and cemented an early rep for discipline and accountability on their team. With Foley's manner in this he invites an opportunity for a team vs admin attitude -- not a demonstration of the power of positive thinking on Foley's part.
 
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"Year of the Bull" showed just how unprepared these kids can be heading into a college environment. To go from where he came from, to UF, I am not at all suprised where we find him today. I feel sorry for him and wish him the best. This is a very well done documentary that brings up many, many complex issues.
 
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Hey Charles... Just south of Gainesville is a great school that could use you

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Just a couple of thoughts for the folks dumping on Foley.

The incident occurred before Urban Meyer was even being considered for the Florida job. So for Meyer to come in and suspend a player for something that happened before he was their coach might seem odd to the players. Having Foley play the heavy allows the example of discipline to be established without having Meyer do something that might alienate him to some of the players he's just getting to know.
 
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BuckeyeBill73 said:
Just a couple of thoughts for the folks dumping on Foley.

The incident occurred before Urban Meyer was even being considered for the Florida job. So for Meyer to come in and suspend a player for something that happened before he was their coach might seem odd to the players. Having Foley play the heavy allows the example of discipline to be established without having Meyer do something that might alienate him to some of the players he's just getting to know.
Mmm -- not sure Bill if I agree totally with that thesis -- though I fully understand how such an approach might have been the one adopted. It may indeed be that such a division of responsibility was agreed upon by Foley and Meyer (possibly to help smooth Meyer's approach to the team as a whole). If that was so, then why did not the UAA simply state such as justification for Meyer's back-seat role in this disciplinary matter? Instead we have the "Meyer had no part in this matter" language. Which -- may be true at the time of the precipitating incident, but does not jive in my mind with a take charge approach expected of an incoming head coach. Finally, I'm not sure I agree with the wisdom of that premise either, that this helps Meyer cultivate rapport with (or avoid alienating) the team. Not suggesting Urban goes Bobby Knight on those Gators -- but hell they have had their share of on-campus off the field problems. (Notably as recent as this last weekend). I cannot conceive that the other players were 100% in favor of Taurean's return. Also, Urban Meyer would have been deciding this fella's fate based on his progress since the no contest plea was entered. January to beginning April is plenty of time for him to make an assessment of the Taurean's dedication to making such progress. Guess we shall see how Meyer handles the ramifications of the latest incidents, probably it'll be back to Urban at the helm.
Finally, if what I wrote earlier (or now) came across as dumping on Foley, that isn't what was intended. Rather I felt that a different approach could have been used by Foley & the UFL AA (and any others, well other than Taurean) to describe the administrative handling of this situation. The language used by the UAA more neatly fits a dis-empowered Meyer than it does Foley shouldering the task of disciplining Taurean - due to the time at which the precipitating incident happened. Then again, Foley is no Geiger -- so should I expect such Geiger like standards of clear, concise and well thought language on his part. Possibly not.
 
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sandgk,

I wasn't saying I agreed with the scenario I outlined, I was just presenting another possibility for how Florida dealt with it. And my 'dumping' comment was directed at this post:

It should of course be noted, as S&GKeith alluded to, that Foley is a power-mongering, headline-grabbing asshole.
I'm not sure that you really alluded to all that. :wink2:
 
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Actually, he did--just not with the same harsh phrasing I used:

Foley's throwing around his weight... Foley's supremacy as sole decision maker ... Seems like Foley is publicly and directly under-cutting Meyer's authority as head coach. .... With Foley's manner in this he invites an opportunity for a team vs admin attitude -- not a demonstration of the power of positive thinking on Foley's part.

Call it what you like, but to me those references allude to the Foley known to many across the nation as a power-monger (supremacy as sole decision maker) and headline-grabber (publicly under-cutting Meyer's authority). Like someone else almost said, Foley is a Geiger wannabe without any of AG's tact, and he thinks he's personally responsible for all of UF's successes.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
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Well bottom line is this on Foley and the Sounds of Silence from Urban Meyer.
If Meyer has some kind of wish to impose his disciplinary thumbprint on the Gators for off-field actions, then last weekends latest ruckus gives him an opportunity to do just that.
If Meyer has an issue with Foley in re the manner of Taurean ousters as a Gator, we will likely never hear of it -- we will just never know what he agreed to or said in disagreement to Foley's face.
 
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